Chopped hay

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Shannon

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Nov 3, 2011, 9:05:23 AM11/3/11
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I think this was mentioned last year but heregoes: my old horse needs chopped hay. He is missing lots of teeth and cannot properly chew the regular stuff. I seem to recall someone mentioning how to do it at home. The bagged stuff is quite pricy and I was hoping for an economical substitute.

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Shannon
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Bonnie

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Nov 3, 2011, 10:31:13 AM11/3/11
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Hello Shannon,

It was probably me ;-) We have directions on how to do it here
with pictures.
http://www.b4boots.com/w/

Basically what we do is use a chipper shredder. We run our regular hay
through the chipper shredder. We found we have to run it through twice
to get the hay chopped fine enough. Perhaps a different style chipper
shredder would do better than ours and manage to get the hay chopped
fine enough in one pass. We run the hay through the shredder part not
the chipper part that you put the tree limbs through.

So instead of paying the price of 11.99 for hay cubes or shredded
alfalfa, we were using the regular hay we purchased and the price of
fuel to run the shredder.

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Patti Woodbury-Kuvik

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Nov 3, 2011, 10:45:23 AM11/3/11
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I have used a "mulching" lawn mower to chop hay - need to run a first
batch through to get rid of any old grass clippings. Not real
convenient but OK in a pinch. (I've also used scissors but that gets
old fast).
Though I haven't used one myself, I know people have used leaf
shredders (like http://www.amazon.com/Flowtron-Ultimate-Mulcher-Electric-Shredder/dp/B00006XMTM).
You probably need a heavy duty shredder if you're going to process a
lot of hay.

I have several clients who use plain hay pellets (Mountain Sunrise
Timothy, Bermuda or mixed) as 100% of their horse's ration along with
a flax-based supplement, usually with some beet pulp and their horses
do very well. The Mountain Sunrise pellets tend to be small and soft
enough for easy chewing; can add water to just moisten or to make
pretty soupy. If you get hay pellets locally, make sure they're not
too hard for your horse to chew. If you decide to use pellets, he
would need about 1.5% of his body weight fed per day (with additional
long stem hay or pasture solely for "entertainment").

Older horses produce less saliva, so soaking hay or adding water to
pellets can also help these guys process their feed (and have less
chance of choke).

Hope this helps.

Patti K
Vail AZ
www.DesertEquineBalance.com

Carla Richardson

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Nov 3, 2011, 11:33:56 AM11/3/11
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You could also feed him beet pulp mash exclusively.  I've known of several older horses that had no teeth to speak of, that stayed in excellent condition (for their age) on just beet pulp mash.  You can add supplements to it, if desired, but the consistency of the mushy mash was edible and they did great with it, and no hay at all.
 
Carla


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Bonnie

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Nov 3, 2011, 11:44:15 AM11/3/11
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Hello Carla,

I couldn't afford the beet pulp since my horse would have needed 25
lbs a day ;-) He was a big horse! I used soy hull pellets and
distillers grain which I get now for $7.50 for 50 lbs. I used to get
it much cheaper, everything goes up rarely goes down. But I always
tried to provide some chopped/chaff hay or soaked hay cubes. I was
able to provide even more chopped/chaff hay when we figured out how to
make our own using a chipper shredder.

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Carla Richardson

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Nov 3, 2011, 11:52:31 AM11/3/11
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I think it's very smart of you to figure out how to chop your own hay!

Carla

Bonnie

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Nov 3, 2011, 1:59:14 PM11/3/11
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Hello Carla,

I hope that it can help someone else that has a dentally challeged
horse ;-)


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Thursday, November 3, 2011, 11:52:31 AM, you wrote:

> I think it's very smart of you to figure out how to chop your own hay!

> Carla

> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Bonnie <bon...@b4boots.com> wrote:
> Hello Carla,

> I couldn't afford the beet pulp since my horse would have needed 25

> lbs a day He was a big horse! I used soy hull pellets and

Elyse Carreno

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Nov 4, 2011, 9:32:52 AM11/4/11
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Bonnie has a great entry about chopping hay on her blog. Go to www.b4boots.com and clink on the blog link.

-Elyse

Shannon Loomis

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Nov 4, 2011, 11:45:51 AM11/4/11
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Thanks, Bonnie. The challenge will be finding a yard shredder amongst all the snow blowers, but I am going to head out this weekend and see if I can find one. The bonus will be that I have a bunch of brush that I was going to burn from clearing along the creek in the pasture, but I can just shred it and use it in the muddy areas around the run in sheds!

Shannon

Lif Strand

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Nov 4, 2011, 12:10:19 PM11/4/11
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At 09:45 AM 11/4/2011, Shannon Loomis wrote:
>The challenge will be finding a yard shredder amongst all the snow blowers

Anyone have recommendations on what to look for in a shredder that
will work for hay?
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Karen Everhart

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Nov 4, 2011, 12:26:59 PM11/4/11
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We have the Stihl brand and it works GREAT!!
 
 
Karen Everhart MEd
Executive director and co-founder
Rainbow Meadows Equine Rescue and Retirement, Inc
www.rainbowmeadowsranch.com
 
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Bonnie

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Nov 4, 2011, 3:00:15 PM11/4/11
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Hello Lif,

The one we have we got used from a friend. It is a 8.5 horsepower
that has a separate chipper from the shredder. This is the only one we
have tried and it works. I have seen videos of a electric shredders
used for shredding hay but heck we couldn't afford one. We have been
keeping an eye out for another good used one but the fall is not the
time to get them cheap ;-) We were thinking of connecting them so we
could run the hay through twice by having the first one shred the hay
then the next shredder could suck it up through the vacuum attachment
and shred it again. That way we wouldn't have to run the hay through
one chipper shredder twice and it would save time. The used one we
are currently using is a craftsman with a briggs and stratton engine
and it has the lawn vacuum attachment on it.

Another way to chop hay would be one of the feed/bale choppers that
farmers use to grind and mix hay with feed. I have seen them go for
$600 on Craigslist every once in a great while. I wish I could afford
one of those as supposedly they can chop up a large round bale and
that would certainly save some money in the long run ;-) I am sure
there could be a business opportunity there offering hay chopping for
a fee and or selling chopped hay made from large round bales.

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Lif Strand

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Nov 4, 2011, 11:14:45 PM11/4/11
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At 10:26 AM 11/4/2011, Karen Everhart wrote:
>We have the Stihl brand and it works GREAT!!

Thanks!

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