Hoof Armor Reviews?

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Jim Ingersoll

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Jul 8, 2010, 8:25:01 PM7/8/10
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I'm a barefoot trimmer in Tehachapi CA and would like to hear from
anyone about the product Hoof Armor. Ground is very abrasive here and
I need a product to protect bare feet so I have some foot to work with
at the next trim. I really don't want to have to shoe every other
trim.
Anyone use Hoof Armor? It seems very soft and doesn't look like it
will hold up for 6 weeks.
Thanks.

Christy H

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Jul 9, 2010, 3:19:10 PM7/9/10
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It doesn't hold up for 6 weeks. You have to re-apply it every 10 days or so, depending on how fast your horse wears through it!!  My friend and I in Colorado (usually on abrasive trails) have used it and we only ride 10-15 miles... I can't imagine riding 25-50. I definitely 'helps' but in my experience it's not as effective as shoes. I just bought boots. Going to try that out. I have used SuperFast. We put it on and sprinkled fine sand on it as it was drying. Did a pretty good job. Easier than getting out the heat/blow dryer to cure the Hoof Armor.

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Roger Rittenhouse

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Jul 9, 2010, 3:46:46 PM7/9/10
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Did not work for me. It looked like it was gone on 5mile ride- hardtop
and stones and hard pack trails. I tried it about 3 times, used all
the stuff. They looked like it was scuffed off, could see toe/rim
wear.

have not tried the Vettec for a few years. Never could get it to
stay on. The new products might work.
I go with Renegades.
Getting B4 Boots for the mule
Roger R

Linda Cowles

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Jul 9, 2010, 4:32:35 PM7/9/10
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>>I'm a barefoot trimmer in Tehachapi CA and would like to hear from
anyone about the product Hoof Armor. Ground is very abrasive here and
I need a product to protect bare feet so I have some foot to work with
at the next trim. I really don't want to have to shoe every other
trim.

I'm interested in any feedback too... I haven't used it but am tempted to.
Jim, you may want to ask on the barefoot endurance group as well... there is
one person on that list who's definitely a fan, but I'm interested in other
feedback.


Linda Cowles
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Linda Cowles

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Jul 9, 2010, 4:37:59 PM7/9/10
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>> I have used SuperFast. We put it on and sprinkled fine sand on it as it was drying. Did a pretty good job. Easier than getting out the heat/blow dryer to cure the Hoof Armor.

Christy, with the SuperFast, did you coat the sole and wall rim? Just one coat or more than one? I’m fascinated! I have a few rehabs that this could really help with.

Linda Cowles
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k s swigart

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Jul 10, 2010, 1:44:06 AM7/10/10
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Jim said:

> Anyone use Hoof Armor?  It seems very soft and doesn't look like it
> will  hold up for 6 weeks.

I couldn't get it to hold up for more than a couple of days on our "abrasive"
ground (almost entirely DG)...and this was on horses that weren't being ridden,
just turned out to live on the abrasive ground. 


I had one horse that it held up for about a week...but he was in a 24'x48' stall
instead of a large paddock turnout.

I tried it on different horses with slightly different application techniques
until the tube ran out, and then quit trying.

kat
Orange County, Calif.

Christy H

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Jul 10, 2010, 12:41:42 PM7/10/10
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Yes, we coated sole and rim. I can't tell exactly how fast it's wearing off because it's so friggin' muddy out here!
My Bares should be here today.  I am going to keep the superfast on his back feet though. I don't mind applying it every week if I have to. 


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Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 13:37:59 -0700

Linda Cowles

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Aug 2, 2010, 11:11:06 PM8/2/10
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Hi Christy,

 

I’ve kept glue-ons glued on for 4 to 5 weeks at a time, and it’s a good tool for some rehab situations, but I haven’t found it to be ideal. The sole and walls seem to get softer. That’s my impression only, but I’ve done it on several horses and at this point, I wouldn’t do it on my own horse.

 

What you might want to try instead is casting the hoof in 3M casting tape with a rim of Super Fast to help keep the cast from wearing. The casting material is permeable so it breathes, and is flexible enough that the hoof can still expand and contract. The Super Fast epoxy is durable, and you should be able to ride in them on soft terrain, but I boot over the casts for distance training or riding on abrasive surfaces.

 

Diet is extremely important for building strong walls, sole and getting frogs healthy, and I usually see a significant improvement in 6 to 8 weeks.

Linda Cowles
Santa Rosa, CA

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Founding Member, American Hoof Association http://www.americanhoofassociation.org/
Mentor, Pacific Hoof Care Practitioners http://www.pacifichoofcare.org/
Whole Horse Health discussion forum  http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/wholehorsehealth/

 

From: Christy H [mailto:circle....@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:52 PM
To: healt...@comcast.net; ride...@endurance.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Sole Guard - didn't hold up!

 

Well....... we were out for 5 hours and the Sole Guard did not make it :(  We only went 15-18 miles? 

 

My friend and I switched to a Pete Ramey natural trimmer 2 days ago named Blaine St. Peter http://www.owlcanyonhoofrehab.com He does endurance horses around here (Fort Collins, CO area). He fitted my TB with gloves for his back feet (size 1.5) and ok'd my size 2 Bares on his fronts. 

 

We also had a serious discussion about feed choices. I have been supplementing with senior feed... bad bad bad! The sugars have been breaking down the hoof and that's why his feet have steadily worsened since January (his trims weren't helping either). It's the only real change I made in his feed. In addition to pasture 10 hours a day, he is now getting soaked alfalfa cubes for calcium and ADM stay strong. I know other people who swear by the ADM Stay Strong - so I had some other references.

 

After next trim I may glue on gloves and keep them on for 4-5 weeks. With the copper goo stuff that goes in the boot to prevent bacteria, he says the foot comes out of the boot really beautiful. I am riding with comfort pads in the front boots because he has no foot! It can't get much worse..... dam. I never thought sugar in the hind gut would break down the lamini like it has - but there's no other explanation.

 

I will let you know how it goes with the boots on the backs. He changed the shapes of B's feet quite a bit. Natural trims are not equal! VERY different from my other seemingly very educated and successful trimmer (Casey LaPierre style).  But then... her clients don't really 'ride' their horses - not like you endurance people!

 

 


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To: circle....@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:11:00 -0700

Let me know how it goes!

Linda Cowles
Santa Rosa, CA

WWW.HealthyHoof.Com    mailto:Healt...@Comcast.net

Founding Member, American Hoof Association http://www.americanhoofassociation.org/
Mentor, Pacific Hoof Care Practitioners http://www.pacifichoofcare.org/
Whole Horse Health discussion forum  http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/wholehorsehealth/

 

From: Christy H [mailto:circle....@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:19 PM
To: healt...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so

 

I am really happy with my Easy Bares on the front. Applied Sole Guard tonight for the first time on back feet. Have 15 miles+ of trail riding tomorrow. Crossing my fingers the sole guard will hang in there on the back feet. My guy does not have much concavity.

 

Sole guard seems to offer more protection than hoof armor if it will stay on!

pain in the arse

 

I had to learn to rasp my own horse to keep his feet nice for the boots. Sure is making a wonderful difference! What next?! This is alot of work!

 

 

From: healt...@comcast.net
To: circle....@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:53:58 -0700

I worried about using superfast too, because it us hard.

 

Sole guard peels off fast around here. I may give the Hoof Armor a try, see if it works.

 

There is definitely room for a new product here!

Linda Cowles
Santa Rosa, CA

WWW.HealthyHoof.Com    mailto:Healt...@Comcast.net

Founding Member, American Hoof Association http://www.americanhoofassociation.org/
Mentor, Pacific Hoof Care Practitioners http://www.pacifichoofcare.org/
Whole Horse Health discussion forum  http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/wholehorsehealth/

 

From: Christy H [mailto:circle....@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:16 PM
To: healt...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so

 

I'm not so sure it was superfast she used now. when i went to purchase it, the farrier store owner said NO WAY use it on the sole because it's TOO hard.  So I bought something else that dried rubbery (kinda clear) and it came off the next day.  Sigh.  Thinking about trying sole guard next.

 

are you having any luck?

 

i only need it for back feet - i use easyboots on front

maybe i'll just go back to hoof armor


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To: ride...@endurance.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 13:37:59 -0700

 


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Christy H

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Aug 2, 2010, 10:51:38 PM8/2/10
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Well....... we were out for 5 hours and the Sole Guard did not make it :(  We only went 15-18 miles? 

My friend and I switched to a Pete Ramey natural trimmer 2 days ago named Blaine St. Peter http://www.owlcanyonhoofrehab.com He does endurance horses around here (Fort Collins, CO area). He fitted my TB with gloves for his back feet (size 1.5) and ok'd my size 2 Bares on his fronts. 

We also had a serious discussion about feed choices. I have been supplementing with senior feed... bad bad bad! The sugars have been breaking down the hoof and that's why his feet have steadily worsened since January (his trims weren't helping either). It's the only real change I made in his feed. In addition to pasture 10 hours a day, he is now getting soaked alfalfa cubes for calcium and ADM stay strong. I know other people who swear by the ADM Stay Strong - so I had some other references.

After next trim I may glue on gloves and keep them on for 4-5 weeks. With the copper goo stuff that goes in the boot to prevent bacteria, he says the foot comes out of the boot really beautiful. I am riding with comfort pads in the front boots because he has no foot! It can't get much worse..... dam. I never thought sugar in the hind gut would break down the lamini like it has - but there's no other explanation.

I will let you know how it goes with the boots on the backs. He changed the shapes of B's feet quite a bit. Natural trims are not equal! VERY different from my other seemingly very educated and successful trimmer (Casey LaPierre style).  But then... her clients don't really 'ride' their horses - not like you endurance people!




From: healt...@comcast.net
To: circle....@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:11:00 -0700

Let me know how it goes!

Linda Cowles
Santa Rosa, CA

WWW.HealthyHoof.Com    mailto:Healt...@Comcast.net

Founding Member, American Hoof Association http://www.americanhoofassociation.org/
Mentor, Pacific Hoof Care Practitioners http://www.pacifichoofcare.org/
Whole Horse Health discussion forum  http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/wholehorsehealth/

 

From: Christy H [mailto:circle....@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:19 PM
To: healt...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so

 

I am really happy with my Easy Bares on the front. Applied Sole Guard tonight for the first time on back feet. Have 15 miles+ of trail riding tomorrow. Crossing my fingers the sole guard will hang in there on the back feet. My guy does not have much concavity.

 

Sole guard seems to offer more protection than hoof armor if it will stay on!

pain in the arse

 

I had to learn to rasp my own horse to keep his feet nice for the boots. Sure is making a wonderful difference! What next?! This is alot of work!

 

 

From: healt...@comcast.net
To: circle....@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:53:58 -0700

I worried about using superfast too, because it us hard.

 

Sole guard peels off fast around here. I may give the Hoof Armor a try, see if it works.

 

There is definitely room for a new product here!

Linda Cowles
Santa Rosa, CA

WWW.HealthyHoof.Com    mailto:Healt...@Comcast.net

Founding Member, American Hoof Association http://www.americanhoofassociation.org/
Mentor, Pacific Hoof Care Practitioners http://www.pacifichoofcare.org/
Whole Horse Health discussion forum  http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/wholehorsehealth/

 

From: Christy H [mailto:circle....@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:16 PM
To: healt...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so

 

I'm not so sure it was superfast she used now. when i went to purchase it, the farrier store owner said NO WAY use it on the sole because it's TOO hard.  So I bought something else that dried rubbery (kinda clear) and it came off the next day.  Sigh.  Thinking about trying sole guard next.

 

are you having any luck?

 

i only need it for back feet - i use easyboots on front

maybe i'll just go back to hoof armor


From: healt...@comcast.net
To: ride...@endurance.net
Subject: RE: [RC] Hoof Armor Reviews?- OK for 10 days or so
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 13:37:59 -0700

 


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Christy H

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Aug 2, 2010, 11:21:02 PM8/2/10
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Thanks! Yes, I've used the casting. Wore through it in 8-9 days. Did not think about putting superfast on it.

I dont' think his feet can get much softer! That's part of the problem. I think I won't glue them on then, just keep booting on& off.


Subject: RE: [RC] Sole Guard - didn't hold up!
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:11:06 -0700
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