Hie Tie or Spring Tie?
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Sandy Adams
Oct 31, 2011, 11:28:47 PM10/31/11
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Can people who have one of these things tell me more about them - pluses and minuses? PM is probably better unless someone else on RC would like to know.
Sheri Devouassoux
Oct 31, 2011, 11:42:05 PM10/31/11
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I would like to know more about about these!
Sheri
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Tracy Kelly
Nov 1, 2011, 6:24:19 AM11/1/11
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I just bought the spring tie and have used it a handful of times now.
I love it -it is easy to set up and my horses took to it immediately.
No issues at all.
Tracy
I love it -it is easy to set up and my horses took to it immediately.
No issues at all.
Tracy
magnumsmom
Nov 1, 2011, 3:59:00 PM11/1/11
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I've had my 2 High-Ties for, er, 6? years now.
I love them. Easy to set up and put away. I did
add pool noodles as suggested by Maryben. I
found out that in high cross winds at speed pool
noodles will fly off (mine are sliced) unless you
secure them with, say, some velcro wraps.
And then the husband had to rush off to the store
to get the last one they had as the season was
ending... and then he said some lady rushed up
to him and asked him where he got the pool
noodle and he had to tell her it was the last one.
Yeah, right.... He fended her off with a pool noodle
and story about his wife's horse trailer? Who
believes that one?
- Kathy Myers
in Santa Fe, NM
I love them. Easy to set up and put away. I did
add pool noodles as suggested by Maryben. I
found out that in high cross winds at speed pool
noodles will fly off (mine are sliced) unless you
secure them with, say, some velcro wraps.
And then the husband had to rush off to the store
to get the last one they had as the season was
ending... and then he said some lady rushed up
to him and asked him where he got the pool
noodle and he had to tell her it was the last one.
Yeah, right.... He fended her off with a pool noodle
and story about his wife's horse trailer? Who
believes that one?
- Kathy Myers
in Santa Fe, NM
Karen Lynd
Nov 1, 2011, 6:30:53 PM11/1/11
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Sheri Devouassoux
Nov 1, 2011, 7:34:04 PM11/1/11
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Kathy, can you please explain about the pool noodles? Do you secure them around the arm to protect your trailer? I am lost!
Sheri
Jonni
Nov 1, 2011, 8:45:56 PM11/1/11
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I may have been the one who started the pool noodle thing. :-) On a
Hi-Tie (the original, with that name, out of fiberglass) I take the
allen wrench, and take the ring off the end, and then slip the pool
noodle over the bar, and then put the ring back on the end. No need
to cut the pool noodle open. If it does not want to slip on easy,
sprinkle a bit of baby powder on the hi-tie.
I started this for a couple reasons. First, a bright color, so riders
riding through camp would see it, and not run into it. Also, as I pull
out of camp, and glance in my mirrors, I'd see it if I forgot to fold
it against my trailer.(hopefully) And, yes, to protect the trailer
and Hi-Tie, as the installation on my old trailer had a beam on the
trailer really close to the Hi-Tie. Also, it keeps a bit of the Suns
rays off the Hi-Tie, and even tho coated, it can help protect them a
bit. Besides, you can get colors to match your buckets and horses
tack.
Jonni
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Hi-Tie (the original, with that name, out of fiberglass) I take the
allen wrench, and take the ring off the end, and then slip the pool
noodle over the bar, and then put the ring back on the end. No need
to cut the pool noodle open. If it does not want to slip on easy,
sprinkle a bit of baby powder on the hi-tie.
I started this for a couple reasons. First, a bright color, so riders
riding through camp would see it, and not run into it. Also, as I pull
out of camp, and glance in my mirrors, I'd see it if I forgot to fold
it against my trailer.(hopefully) And, yes, to protect the trailer
and Hi-Tie, as the installation on my old trailer had a beam on the
trailer really close to the Hi-Tie. Also, it keeps a bit of the Suns
rays off the Hi-Tie, and even tho coated, it can help protect them a
bit. Besides, you can get colors to match your buckets and horses
tack.
Jonni
On Nov 1, 6:34 pm, Sheri Devouassoux <sheridevouass...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Kathy, can you please explain about the pool noodles? Do you secure them
> around the arm to protect your trailer? I am lost!
>
> Sheri
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> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:59 PM, magnumsmom <magnums...@aol.com> wrote:
> > I've had my 2 High-Ties for, er, 6? years now.
>
> > I love them. Easy to set up and put away. I did
> > add pool noodles as suggested by Maryben. I
> > found out that in high cross winds at speed pool
> > noodles will fly off (mine are sliced) unless you
> > secure them with, say, some velcro wraps.
>
> > And then the husband had to rush off to the store
> > to get the last one they had as the season was
> > ending... and then he said some lady rushed up
> > to him and asked him where he got the pool
> > noodle and he had to tell her it was the last one.
>
> > Yeah, right.... He fended her off with a pool noodle
> > and story about his wife's horse trailer? Who
> > believes that one?
>
> > - Kathy Myers
> > in Santa Fe, NM
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> around the arm to protect your trailer? I am lost!
>
> Sheri
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> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:59 PM, magnumsmom <magnums...@aol.com> wrote:
> > I've had my 2 High-Ties for, er, 6? years now.
>
> > I love them. Easy to set up and put away. I did
> > add pool noodles as suggested by Maryben. I
> > found out that in high cross winds at speed pool
> > noodles will fly off (mine are sliced) unless you
> > secure them with, say, some velcro wraps.
>
> > And then the husband had to rush off to the store
> > to get the last one they had as the season was
> > ending... and then he said some lady rushed up
> > to him and asked him where he got the pool
> > noodle and he had to tell her it was the last one.
>
> > Yeah, right.... He fended her off with a pool noodle
> > and story about his wife's horse trailer? Who
> > believes that one?
>
> > - Kathy Myers
> > in Santa Fe, NM
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Becky/Sue Burkheart
Nov 1, 2011, 9:45:20 PM11/1/11
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I've never used a hi-tie, but i have spring ties and i love them!
there has been some discussion about the metal fatiguing, but mine are several years old (in texas) and look fine. I don't have anyone who really pulls, but my stallion bounces around doing his 'man dance' and the spring and bolts (where it's attached to the trailer) aren't showing much if any wear at all. ... seems like i've had them five years or so.
Becky Burkheart
Short &Twisted ~ Nothing Is What It Seems: An anthology of dark tales.
The 33 Worst Mistakes Authors Make About Horses ~ Let a writer who's a rider help you write it right!
there has been some discussion about the metal fatiguing, but mine are several years old (in texas) and look fine. I don't have anyone who really pulls, but my stallion bounces around doing his 'man dance' and the spring and bolts (where it's attached to the trailer) aren't showing much if any wear at all. ... seems like i've had them five years or so.
Becky Burkheart
Short &Twisted ~ Nothing Is What It Seems: An anthology of dark tales.
The 33 Worst Mistakes Authors Make About Horses ~ Let a writer who's a rider help you write it right!
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magnumsmom
Nov 2, 2011, 1:48:00 PM11/2/11
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Hi Sheri,
The pool noodle over the fiberglass arm does keep it
from rubbing against the trailer. And they can be color
coordinated with your tack. :) However, I put them on
to protect the fiberglass from the sun / UV. Mine are
covered by paint, but after 5 or 6 years the paint is
chipping. Cutting them to 1 meter seems to be the
right length.
- Kathy Myers
in Santa Fe, NM
ps sorry Jonni... didn't mean to give away your credit...
:)
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On Nov 1, 5:34 pm, Sheri Devouassoux <sheridevouass...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The pool noodle over the fiberglass arm does keep it
from rubbing against the trailer. And they can be color
coordinated with your tack. :) However, I put them on
to protect the fiberglass from the sun / UV. Mine are
covered by paint, but after 5 or 6 years the paint is
chipping. Cutting them to 1 meter seems to be the
right length.
- Kathy Myers
in Santa Fe, NM
:)
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On Nov 1, 5:34 pm, Sheri Devouassoux <sheridevouass...@gmail.com>
wrote:
wreck...@ca.rr.com
Nov 2, 2011, 2:47:23 PM11/2/11
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Just witnessed a horse pull back hard on a hi-tie and the white pole broke off.
The owner was, not very smartly, standing between the horse and the hi-tie/trailer set up. I don't know where you could have stood to be safe, except far away. I guess the owner couldn't quickly unclip the horse from the system.
He's lucky he didn't get killed by the flying pole - lots of energy/force behind it.
The pole hit the horse in the neck and luckily did not get impaled. The wound was not too bad but it did bleed.
I think the horse was spooked when the line from the pole got wrapped around its neck as it was supposed to be learning how to stand tethered to the hi-tie. I don't think it was still wrapped around the horse's neck when it started pulling back.
Just an observation.
Melody
The owner was, not very smartly, standing between the horse and the hi-tie/trailer set up. I don't know where you could have stood to be safe, except far away. I guess the owner couldn't quickly unclip the horse from the system.
He's lucky he didn't get killed by the flying pole - lots of energy/force behind it.
The pole hit the horse in the neck and luckily did not get impaled. The wound was not too bad but it did bleed.
I think the horse was spooked when the line from the pole got wrapped around its neck as it was supposed to be learning how to stand tethered to the hi-tie. I don't think it was still wrapped around the horse's neck when it started pulling back.
Just an observation.
Melody
---- Becky/Sue Burkheart <b.sue.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've never used a hi-tie, but i have spring ties and i love them!
>
> there has been some discussion about the metal fatiguing, but mine are
> several years old (in texas) and look fine. I don't have anyone who really
> pulls, but my stallion bounces around doing his 'man dance' and the spring
> and bolts (where it's attached to the trailer) aren't showing much if any
> wear at all. ... seems like i've had them five years or so.
>
> Becky Burkheart*
> Short &Twisted <http://shortandtwisted.com> ~ *Nothing Is What It Seems: An
> anthology of dark tales.
> The *33 Worst Mistakes* Authors Make About
> *Horses*<http://aconspiracyofauthors.com/acoajoom/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=60:the-33-worst-mistakes-writers-make-about-horses&catid=42:publications&Itemid=76>~
> *Let a writer who's a **rider help you **write it **right*!
ka...@astelier.com
Nov 2, 2011, 3:39:28 PM11/2/11
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My husband made me a home-made tie we are calling a "swing-tie" because it pivots so the horse can walk in a nice big semi-circle. I will post pictures and a video of it when I can for those that might be interested in building their own. The way ours is built required welding but you might be able to make something similar without welding. We built it all out of scrap pipe. It gives the horse a lot more grazing area than a spring-tie or hi-tie.
It's made of heavy metal piping that would take quite a bit of force to break, but if it did, would be dangerous. So although my horse is not a puller backer, we have the rope attached to the pipe by something that will break much more easily than the pipe ever would (I've used any of velcro, string, and carabiners), so all that will come flying off is the lead rope if they panic. Couldn't you use something like this on a Spring-Tie or Hi-Tie? The attachment can be fairly strong as long as it's not as strong as the hi-tie/spring-tie.
Still, I wouldn't use mine on a horse that was a puller-backer, because although she wouldn't be injured, she'd figure out pretty quick that all she has to do is give it a good tug to go visit her neighbors.
ka...@astelier.com
Nov 2, 2011, 5:59:30 PM11/2/11
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This page has some pictures of our swing-tie, I'll be adding more of a description later, along with a video of my horse using it.
~ Crysta
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"Those of us who finish near the back, make the rest of you look good."
(( ))...........
Sheri Devouassoux
Nov 2, 2011, 8:13:51 PM11/2/11
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Kathy and Jonni, thank you for explaining the pool noodle on the Hi Tie. The pool noodle makes sense!
The nice lady that hauls me to rides has an old "Tie Rite" horse tying system. Here is the info: http://www.tierite.com/ One of her horses lives on it at rides (her other horse has an electric pen and my horse lives tied to the trailer). I like the Tie Rite system because you can set it up easily from the ground. The new model that they make now is much safer than the old one. The old one (that my friend has) has the habit of catching halters of horses that are tied to the trailer (when the Tie Rite is folded down. For example if we haul out for the day and don't set up the Tie Rite).
I plan to get some sort of a Hi Tie system when I get my own trailer. I really like the Tie Rite because it sets up so easily, but I am open the other makes and models like the Spring Tie, Hi Tie, and even Karen's "Swing Tie." My horse has the perfect temperment for living in such an arrangement. I made sure that he wasn't a "puller backer" before I bought him. I owned a non-tying horse and competed him for four seasons. He was the kind that flipped out and would break his neck if tied. If I never have a non-tying horse again, it will be too soon!
Sheri
Michelle Stemerick
Nov 2, 2011, 8:45:22 PM11/2/11
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I have a friend who uses this system as well. She loves it.
I have 2 HiTies on my trailer. Love them too. Anything that allows you to pull up and be set up in seconds is a winner in my book!
Michelle =)
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Subject: Re: [RC] Hie Tie or Spring Tie?
Ellen Rosenberg
Nov 3, 2011, 9:48:18 PM11/3/11
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My horse uses a Hi-Tie at rides...She always "tests" the bungee. I
replace the bungee part about every 2 years...but I haven't considered
replacing the pole. Feather has been "tangled" twice (last time was
about a year ago). She got a hind leg wrapped in the line while
rolling. Both times I awoke to a noise and found her laying down with
the pole bent down. I undid the velcro around the pole and unwrapped
the leg...I am very lucky she was still. I do wish they came with a
quick release buckle on the horse end...but I know several horses that
can get them open...
I appreciate that there are choices in how we secure our horses...most
of the time we find the answer for our horse...occasionally a horse
shows us how we can improve.
Ellen
On Nov 2, 11:47 am, <wrecksd...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> Just witnessed a horse pull back hard on a hi-tie and the white pole broke off.
> The owner was, not very smartly, standing between the horse and the hi-tie/trailer set up. I don't know where you could have stood to be safe, except far away. I guess the owner couldn't quickly unclip the horse from the system.
> He's lucky he didn't get killed by the flying pole - lots of energy/force behind it.
> The pole hit the horse in the neck and luckily did not get impaled. The wound was not too bad but it did bleed.
> I think the horse was spooked when the line from the pole got wrapped around its neck as it was supposed to be learning how to stand tethered to the hi-tie. I don't think it was still wrapped around the horse's neck when it started pulling back.
> Just an observation.
> Melody
>
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replace the bungee part about every 2 years...but I haven't considered
replacing the pole. Feather has been "tangled" twice (last time was
about a year ago). She got a hind leg wrapped in the line while
rolling. Both times I awoke to a noise and found her laying down with
the pole bent down. I undid the velcro around the pole and unwrapped
the leg...I am very lucky she was still. I do wish they came with a
quick release buckle on the horse end...but I know several horses that
can get them open...
I appreciate that there are choices in how we secure our horses...most
of the time we find the answer for our horse...occasionally a horse
shows us how we can improve.
Ellen
On Nov 2, 11:47 am, <wrecksd...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> Just witnessed a horse pull back hard on a hi-tie and the white pole broke off.
> The owner was, not very smartly, standing between the horse and the hi-tie/trailer set up. I don't know where you could have stood to be safe, except far away. I guess the owner couldn't quickly unclip the horse from the system.
> He's lucky he didn't get killed by the flying pole - lots of energy/force behind it.
> The pole hit the horse in the neck and luckily did not get impaled. The wound was not too bad but it did bleed.
> I think the horse was spooked when the line from the pole got wrapped around its neck as it was supposed to be learning how to stand tethered to the hi-tie. I don't think it was still wrapped around the horse's neck when it started pulling back.
> Just an observation.
> Melody
>
> ---- Becky/Sue Burkheart <b.sue.burkhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've never used a hi-tie, but i have spring ties and i love them!
>
> > there has been some discussion about the metal fatiguing, but mine are
> > several years old (in texas) and look fine. I don't have anyone who really
> > pulls, but my stallion bounces around doing his 'man dance' and the spring
> > and bolts (where it's attached to the trailer) aren't showing much if any
> > wear at all. ... seems like i've had them five years or so.
>
> > Becky Burkheart*
> > Short &Twisted <http://shortandtwisted.com> ~ *Nothing Is What It Seems: An
> > anthology of dark tales.
> > The *33 Worst Mistakes* Authors Make About
> > *Horses*<http://aconspiracyofauthors.com/acoajoom/index.php?option=com_content...>~
>
> > I've never used a hi-tie, but i have spring ties and i love them!
>
> > there has been some discussion about the metal fatiguing, but mine are
> > several years old (in texas) and look fine. I don't have anyone who really
> > pulls, but my stallion bounces around doing his 'man dance' and the spring
> > and bolts (where it's attached to the trailer) aren't showing much if any
> > wear at all. ... seems like i've had them five years or so.
>
> > Becky Burkheart*
> > Short &Twisted <http://shortandtwisted.com> ~ *Nothing Is What It Seems: An
> > anthology of dark tales.
> > The *33 Worst Mistakes* Authors Make About
> > *Let a writer who's a **rider help you **write it **right*!
>
>
> > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Sandy Adams <drquinn...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > > Can people who have one of these things tell me more about them - pluses
> > > and minuses? PM is probably better unless someone else on RC would like to
> > > know.
> > > Sandy Adams
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Donna V. Wakefield
Nov 4, 2011, 1:54:58 PM11/4/11
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I have never used any of the tie to the trailer systems, and probably
never will, but I do have a question for those who have one and a point
for those who are considering one. If you sleep in your trailer, how
much does the horse moving around at the end of the tie move your
trailer? I would find it difficult to sleep if the trailer was
constantly rocking and rolling to the movement of the horse (not to
mention if they pawed the trailer, chewed the trailer, yanked on their
hay bags, etc., which would definitely startle me awake!).
never will, but I do have a question for those who have one and a point
for those who are considering one. If you sleep in your trailer, how
much does the horse moving around at the end of the tie move your
trailer? I would find it difficult to sleep if the trailer was
constantly rocking and rolling to the movement of the horse (not to
mention if they pawed the trailer, chewed the trailer, yanked on their
hay bags, etc., which would definitely startle me awake!).
Donna.
magnumsmom
Nov 4, 2011, 3:03:05 PM11/4/11
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I don't hear the hi-tie, I hear Blue munching hay.
To me being able to hear Blue munching lets me
sleep better... silence is when I wake up with a
start and look out the windows for a grey horse.
- Kathy Myers
in Santa Fe, NM
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On Nov 4, 11:54 am, "Donna V. Wakefield" <roosterwrang...@gmail.com>
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To me being able to hear Blue munching lets me
sleep better... silence is when I wake up with a
start and look out the windows for a grey horse.
- Kathy Myers
in Santa Fe, NM
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Sheri Devouassoux
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I don't hear the horse on the Tie Rite. Come to think of it, I also don't hear my gelding who lives tied to the trailer at rides. I give him an overstuffed hay net and two full buckets of water and he does not make a sound other than munching and slurping. He does not paw at the trailer or pull back on his rope. What I DO hear is all of the loose horses running through camp. Every. Single. Ride. Those are often (but not always) horses that have run through their electric pens. At one ride the horses had simply pushed hard enough on the PVC pipe panels to pull the velcro loose that was holding the PVC panels together. The two horses had eaten a half a bale of our hay and drank my five gallon bucket of Horse Quencher. I noticed when I returned the horses to their owner at one in the morning that there was not a single bit of hay in their pen. My horse still had half of a hay net and hadn't made a peep all night.
Now I am not saying that my horse won't get loose at some point, but I feel pretty safe with him tied to the trailer. He even likes to lie down while tied to the trailer. Eventually when I get my own trailer, I plan to get some sort of Hi Tie system. That way he will have more room to walk around and lie down.
Just my thoughts and observations.
Sheri Devouassoux
Ellen Rosenberg
Nov 4, 2011, 11:27:36 PM11/4/11
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I have a bumper-pull, and sometimes sleep in the truck...I seem to
wake to "the right sounds" and sleep well through the rest...If I feel
the truck moving, I can shine a light on the horse and see if she is
rolling, make sure she doesn't get hung up. Much of the time I wake
to the wind. I agree that keeping food and water in front of the
horse at all times, keeps the horse out of trouble.
Ellen
On Nov 4, 10:54 am, "Donna V. Wakefield" <roosterwrang...@gmail.com>
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wake to "the right sounds" and sleep well through the rest...If I feel
the truck moving, I can shine a light on the horse and see if she is
rolling, make sure she doesn't get hung up. Much of the time I wake
to the wind. I agree that keeping food and water in front of the
horse at all times, keeps the horse out of trouble.
Ellen
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