Reactor panel saddles

[Lisa Belhage]

Does anyone know what saddle Jeremy Reynolds was using in his win last week?  What is the scoop on the Reactor Panel Heraldic?  Heard also about another Reactor Panel endurance saddle called the "Extreme".

 

Any first hand knowledge of either of these saddles?

 

Thanks!

Lisa

[Lysane Crew]

It's an RP saddle.

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[Lisa Belhage]

Do you know which model reactor panel? Heraldic? Extreme?

Thanks, Lisa

[Kathy Mayeda]

Truly, it would be interesting to find out which model it is, but when it comes to chosing a saddle for your horse and yourself, you might each like something totally diffferent than what Jeremy was riding in.  I have one of the older RP Endurance models and I loved it.  I was mentoring a guy who couldn't stand the endurance model, so he ended up with a VSD model.  I know that Jeremy and I ride different (I'm definitely pokier) and are built different (got a bigger caboose) so it's unlikely what he was riding in would suit me.

K.

[Lysane Crew]

I think its the Heraldic.  And I think they use their saddle directly on top of a Toklat matrix pads. Heather mentions usinv that pad in her blog.

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[Lysane Crew]

That's true. I ride in the VSD and love it because the knee blocks are under the saddle flap. For sure, its heavier but I still love it :)

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[Laney Humphrey]

It sure looks to me like the Heraldic is designed for international
level riding where weight is more important than comfort. And we all
know that Jeremy at least runs a lot on many rides so between high
speed and his running, his butt isn't in his saddle nearly as long as
mine would be! I tried an endurance model years ago & didn't like it
because I wanted the knee blocks further forward. I rode a Baker
dressage model for endurance for several years and loved it. OTH, the
friend I ride with every weekend, who also does endurance and NATRC
loves her endurance model. The only way to know which is right is to
try several.
Laney

[Laney Humphrey]

According to the ReactorPanel newsletter, he rode a Heraldic. Laney

[Kathy Mayeda]

Of course, Laney... you're femur length is longer than mine so it makes sense the Endurance model wouldn't work for you!  Yep, ya just got to go sit in them.  I'm lucky to be within driving distance of Carmi's warehouse.  Last time I sat in a new dressage model, I really loved it... I think it was the Elegance.... haven't been back to try the new ones yet.  Gotta get my new horse first!   Not doing endurance, so I'm just dinking in the cheap Abettas for now... no maintenance on them.

K.

[Lynne Glazer]

Plugging in for a minute for some wee corrections, not vending. Laney, actually the Heraldic's bumps are higher and allow more freedom as well as work for more peoples' femur angulation. Kathy, it's usually not a femur length issue, since the stirrup bar is in the dressage position and most endurance folks ride in closer to dressage length leathers.

The Heraldic's seat is otherwise the same as the Summit and regular endurance. Not having standard flaps and billets is where most of the weight is saved, the seat is still the supremely comfortable layered foams and strapping with a medium height cantle. It's been fun to see all the colors people order, whether just the pinstriping or whole hog with seat and thigh bump picks.

I will probably try a Heraldic on my RC pony when he gets here in the spring, and will opt for the JMS sheepskin fenders I've used over the leathers of my other RPs. If one of my other RPs fit him, they might have to get sold.  ;-)  12 lbs is awfully nice further into a ride!

Kathy, you're getting a new horse too?  Elegance was one of the original dressage models, newest is the Tribute: high cantle, narrow twist, serious plugged-in security with removable knee blocks--and pinstriping (colored welting) if desired.

Lynne

[Kathy Mayeda]

Lynne, regardless, I think that a longer femur would find the knee rolls claustrophobic.

K.

[Laney Humphrey]

I'd love to get another ReactorPanel but can't justify it. Lynne, I'm
glad to hear that the Heraldic's "bumps" (love that technical
language!) are higher. I've always wanted a saddle with higher bumps.
It just seems logical to me that something in the nature of bucking
rolls-aussie poleys would provide better support and put pressure
against a less vulnerable part of the anatomy than the knee. Having
looked over the details of the saddle, I have to ask, what' the "pubic
divot"?! Laney

[Lynne Glazer]

When properly fitted, there's a couple of fingers of space between one's femur and the thigh blocks on the endurance when riding on the flat. If the knee is in constant contact with it, rather than the thigh, your anatomy is either not well suited for that model, seat size is too small or you are riding with short stirrups. Either way, contra-indicated.

Pubic divot: we sit on three points on any saddle, the pubic bone and the two ischial tuberosities, and our "triangles" differ, as you know. The pubic divot is a cutout in the seat right where the pubic bone would be for those people who feel like they're being "crotch-bumped" in the standard tree. Everything built on the flatter Baker trees have a shallow rise to the pommel, so generically good for the bumped set. That's probably why you liked your Baker. The public divot might make you happy in the Heraldic if you need the extra room. I sat on one with it and felt like I was falling into the Grand Canyon, but my triangle is very wide in the rear with steep angles back from the pubic bone. I need that support.

Carmi or Lisa could explain the human factors better than I can, hope that helps though.

Lynne

[Horse Sense]

Do you know if RP will be at the convention where I can try my butt in a few options?

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[endurancehorsemt]

Btw...Many people who get an aussie saddle have a similar complaint -
their legs keep banging into the poleys. This means the saddle is not
the right size for that rider. When people go from a Western to an
Aussie they sometimes forget you have to add 2-3" as the sizing is
closer to English. If the seat is too small it moves you forward and
if you have long legs it compounds the problem.

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[Laney Humphrey]

A friend had an aussie saddle. I have no idea how she decided on the
size. Her horse spooked; she actually came out of the saddle but also
had horrendous bruises from hitting the poleys on her way off. I'm
sure there are as many variations in style and fit among aussie
saddles as any other style. If she'd been determined to keep riding
in an aussie, she probably could have found one that fit her better.
Laney

[Laney Humphrey]

Very interesting! The Specialized Trailmaster with it's cutout solved
all my problems altho' since then I've taken lots of lessons & I'm
sure my seat has improved a lot. I do also know that my pelvis tips
forward which I assume is why I liked the Baker I'll bet my triangle
is quite wide in the rear because my sit bones hit right at the edge
of the Specialized seat - uncomfortable! Has Carmi figured out a way
to calculate the rider's anatomy?
Laney

[Ed & Wendy Hauser]

On 12/19/2013 9:54 PM, Laney Humphrey wrote:
> had horrendous bruises from hitting the poleys on her way off.

I rode in an Aussie for a number of years. I had used a standard
western before. After the first few spooks I learned to squeeze my legs
during a spook. Then the poleys did what they are designed to do. I
never came off again, but I did get some great bruises which I
considered a small price to pay.

Ed

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[Lynne Glazer]

Yes, RP will be at convention! If we made it to Chatanooga, we can make it to Atlanta. Looking forward to fun with SE friends on their own turf again.

Consider templating your horse and bring it along; we can talk about sizes for him/her, while you establish your seat/model prefs. PM me or the office for the template guide.

Lynne

[Lynne Glazer]

Yes, RP will be at convention! If we made it to Chatanooga, we can make it to Atlanta. Looking forward to fun with SE friends on their own turf again.

Consider templating your horse and bring it along; we can talk about sizes for him/her, while you establish your seat/model prefs. PM me or the office for the template guide.

Lynne

On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:29 AM, Horse Sense <officialh...@gmail.com> wrote: