[Consider This] Endurance and Conscious Competence

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By Patti Stedman | November 19th, 2014

There is no end to education. It is not that you read a book, pass an examination, and finish with education. The whole of life, from the moment you are born to the moment you die, is a process of learning.

–Jiddu Krishnamurti

Long before I joined AERC’s Education Committee, I’ve been a teacher.

I come by it genetically, I think. My mother was a third grade teacher and my Dad has a gift for sharing ideas and telling stories to illustrate a point. So I combined my passion for horses and teaching by becoming a certified riding instructor during college before realizing that health insurance and a steady income were going to be beneficial to a theoretical ‘grown up.’

But even as my career changed and evolved to what it is today, teaching has been what I love to do. I think part of it is because I am addicted to learning; I sometimes think I got caught in the intellectual curiosity of a 4th grader. I want to know why and how.

One of my favorite models about learning is the Conscious/Competence matrix, which has been attributed to several different individuals. Never mind that, I think what’s most fascinating is how it fits in with our sport.

We all know that endurance riding has a steep learning curve; I don’t know a single endurance rider, even those with great success, who will not admit to having made dozens of mistakes at the start of their career. Most of us will admit that we still make mistakes, and sadly, most of these come at the expense of our horse’s well-being and therefore we try hard not to make the same mistake repeatedly...

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I think this is one of the best article I have read on the importance of good  horsemanship in our sport. I hope everyone on
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Truman Prevatt

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This reminds me of the infamous Rumsfeld knowns/unknowns matrix associated with the alleged WMD's. 

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Lynn White

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Another Ben Johnson fan.  My kinda rider!

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I have always been a Ben Johnson fan. My husband and I saw him roping in a rodeo in Livermore, CA back in 1953. He was the real thing, not just a Hollywood cowboy. I used to love his movies with John Wayne, Harry Carey, and Ward Bond.

 

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Lynn White

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Those old John Ford westerns never show enough of Ben Johnson in the saddle.  It's like they just tease us all.  I'll be watching a scene of Ben riding a horse over some rough country and I'll say to myself, "Wow, that was incredible."  I think Ben was a way under-rated actor for most of his career, but I was glad when he got his Oscar for "The Last Picture Show."  Another great movie actor that could ride was Sheb Wolley.  He played Pete Nolan in Rawhide.

koellingmules

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I liked the movie about the endurance race.  Didn't like that he died or that a lot of horses died too.

koellingmules

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Bite the bullet was the name of the movie. 

Barbara MCrary

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How many people out there remember “The Searchers” starring John Wayne, Jeffrey Archer, and Natalie Wood? Basically, Indians tricked the sodbusters away from their home, and while the men were gone, Indians kidnapped the mother and her (under 10-year-old) daughter. John Wayne’s character had been in love with the mother, even though she was married to another man. Wayne and others went far away from the cabin to find Indians and then realized they had been tricked. They were 80 miles from home. In the movie, they men galloped their horses are far as the horse could handle it, nearly the whole 80 miles, but then Wayne’s horse, and probably others, dropped dead from exhaustion. Rather realistic for a movie.

 

I suspect the movie mentioned below was “Bite the Bullet” with Gene Hackman. I howled with laughter and had everyone in the theatre looking at me, because at the end of the endurance race, Hackman’s horse was heard to be in labored breathing, yet his nostrils were not flared, and the horse staggered across the railroad tracks to the finish. When the saddle (Western, of course) was pulled, the horse’s back was dry, but there was shaving cream all over the horse’s flanks, but none where a horse would foam in reality. The movie was based on a real incident, however.

 

Barbara

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Barbara

Now I have to watch the movie all over again to see your comments.  Lol


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Lynn White

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The Searchers is a great movie.  The Cinematography is to die for.  The movie is a great character study and rather ahead of its time.   Never seen Bite the Bullet. 
 

 

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It’s more “Hollywood” and hasn’t the character study that The Searchers has, even if John Wayne was never quite the actor as some. I really liked The Searchers. The book was great.

 

Barbara

 

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The Searchers is a great movie.  The Cinematography is to die for.  The movie is a great character study and rather ahead of its time.   Never seen Bite the Bullet. 

 


 

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Bite your tongue!  The Duke - none better’;-).  One of my best friends I met in graduate school.  He was a child prodigy - 20 years old in graduate school in the history departments in one of the best history departments in the US (Johns Hopkins).  He was from Canada.  His parents came from Lithuania to Montreal by the way of German concentration camps.  He was a  huge John Wayne fan.  He would routinely quite lines from John Wayne movies to make his point - particularly when it involved picking up young female coeds for a night of fun;-).

To him John Wayne was the ultimate in Americana.  I have to agree with him given it was the early 1970’s.  Here’s to my friend Arnuss Alsascus - the greatest John Wayne fan I’ve ever known. He is now retired for the faculty of the University of Calgary and still the worlds biggest fan of the Duke!  He can quote ever famous line and some not so famous line from every John Wayne movie.  

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Why doesn't someone put together a winter watching endurance riders movie list! Kelley

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Lynn White

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Don't get me started on movies Kelley!  I can put together all sorts of lists of great movies.  Depends what you want.  I can make a list of good tear-jerkers,  esoteric  movies made by the Soviets, silent classics, forgotten westerns, film noir, etc.  I have a whole list devoted to Robert Mitchim.   Love just about anything with Robert Mitchim in it.  Heck, I just like to LOOK at Robert Mitchim.   Sorry Truman, Duke was bigger than life but not much of a versatile actor. 

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As soon as you mentioned the shaving cream I realized I'd seen that movie, remembering how fake that part was, but that is the only scene I remember so I'll have to watch it again! Most horse movies other than westerns and a few racing movies (Seabiscuit) are made for 12 year old girls and are pretty "lame" :) Cant wait to see what good ones folks come up with. I just started watching "Ruffian" which is an ESPN movie available in 10 minute  segments on Youtube (you can play them together from a playlist)... seems pretty good so far. Its a TB racing movie though... not endurance.

Joe Long

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Yep, "Bite the Bullet" was based loosely on a real event and then Hollywooded to death.  Not realistic at all.   Those obvious (to horse owners) errors you mentioned were far from the only ones.
 

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The Searchers is a great movie.  The Cinematography is to die for.  The movie is a great character study and rather ahead of its time.   Never seen Bite the Bullet. 
 

 
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Now I have to watch the movie all over again to see your comments.  Lol


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How many people out there remember “The Searchers” starring John Wayne, Jeffrey Archer, and Natalie Wood? Basically, Indians tricked the sodbusters away from their home, and while the men were gone, Indians kidnapped the mother and her (under 10-year-old) daughter. John Wayne’s character had been in love with the mother, even though she was married to another man. Wayne and others went far away from the cabin to find Indians and then realized they had been tricked. They were 80 miles from home. In the movie, they men galloped their horses are far as the horse could handle it, nearly the whole 80 miles, but then Wayne’s horse, and probably others, dropped dead from exhaustion. Rather realistic for a movie.

 

I suspect the movie mentioned below was “Bite the Bullet” with Gene Hackman. I howled with laughter and had everyone in the theatre looking at me, because at the end of the endurance race, Hackman’s horse was heard to be in labored breathing, yet his nostrils were not flared, and the horse staggered across the railroad tracks to the finish. When the saddle (Western, of course) was pulled, the horse’s back was dry, but there was shaving cream all over the horse’s flanks, but none where a horse would foam in reality. The movie was based on a real incident, however.

 

Barbara

 

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I liked the movie about the endurance race.  Didn't like that he died or that a lot of horses died too.

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Those old John Ford westerns never show enough of Ben Johnson in the saddle.  It's like they just tease us all.  I'll be watching a scene of Ben riding a horse over some rough country and I'll say to myself, "Wow, that was incredible."  I think Ben was a way under-rated actor for most of his career, but I was glad when he got his Oscar for "The Last Picture Show."  Another great movie actor that could ride was Sheb Wolley.  He played Pete Nolan in Rawhide.

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Don't get me started on movies Kelley!  I can put together all sorts of lists of great movies.  Depends what you want.  I can make a list of good tear-jerkers,  esoteric  movies made by the Soviets, silent classics, forgotten westerns, film noir, etc.  I have a whole list devoted to Robert Mitchim.   Love just about anything with Robert Mitchim in it.  Heck, I just like to LOOK at Robert Mitchim.   Sorry Truman, Duke was bigger than life but not much of a versatile actor.
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Why doesn't someone put together a winter watching endurance riders movie list! Kelley
 
 
 
A couple of the Duke’s better movies are “ The Cowboys”  and  “Hondo”    True Grit was not that great overall but his last scene is a classic.
 
And if you just want to go back to the old “heart throb” guys not many better looking than Errol Flynn  (he was a jerk, but he could ride though)  Nobody beats Clark Gable, he rode well in some of his pictures.  I’ve long since forgotten the names except Gone With The Wind 
 
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One movie that is a good story line and features men who can really ride is "In Pursuit of Honor," starring Don Johnson, who it turns out is quite a good rider and actor.  Check it out, the scene where a herd of cavalry horses responds to the bugle calls is wonderful.  I've seen this movie more than once, I like it so much.  Not perfect, but better than most.

Carla Richardson

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I personally think "The Quiet Man" was Duke's best role.   I never get sick of that movie and all the colorful character actors in it. 

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I thought that John Wayne’s last movie, The Shootist, with a lovely, aged, Lauren Bacall, AND Jimmy Stewart, was one of his best. And I agree that Wayne was bigger than life, but he wasn’t a GREAT actor. To me, a great actor is one who can lose him or herself in the character he/she plays and doesn’t show his own character. John Wayne was pretty much always – John Wayne. Entertaining, however, and just right for most of his parts. Talk about GREAT actors – Daniel Day-Lewis, Johnny Depp…can’t think of the others right now. Johnny Depp rather kills his image by being who he is in private life, but boy – can he act. Such a diverse collection of parts…

 

Badly off topic,

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Yes, that WAS a great movie. I had forgotten about that one. But if you haven’t seen The Shootist, do rent it. It’s quite a character study for John Wayne.

 

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The Man from Snowy River. An Australian western. Beautiful scenery, great riding and Kirk Douglas playing two roles.
Or just watch "Toms ride" down the cliff on YouTube.

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Carla Richardson

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I liked the first one but hated the second because he killed Danny.  Hated True Grit too because Wayne rode Blackie to death which was stupid stupid stupid.  Even for a dumb movie.   The only good thing about True Grit was last scene when he jumped the fence.

Carla Richardson

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John Wayne was not the greatest actor but he was John Wayne.  Two of my favorite movies are Hondo and Rio Bravo.  A bunch of us went to see Man From Snowy River and when he went down the cliff, one of my juniors said "Hey, I didn't know Becky was in this movie."



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Lynn White

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True Grit is the only movie where the remake was better than the original movie.  I liked both versions, but the remake was much more realistic.  The saddles, tack, and guns where spot on for the time.  Few things irritate me more than seeing an eggbut snaffle in a movie set in the 1850's.    True Grit is based on a true story and the remake sticks more to the real story with Mattie loosing her arm from the snakebite.  
 
There are so many great Westerns out there in movieland.  Two really good ones are "Yellow Sky" and "Blood on the Moon."  Neither have Duke in them, but they are great stories.  OIf course, Robert Mitchim is in Blood on the Moon.  I can't get enough of Robert Mitchim.  Did I mention that already?
 
I also love "The Naked Spur" with JImmy Stewart.  Stewart used the same horse in pretty much all of his Westerns.  His name was Pie and he looks like a tall lanky chestnut Tennesee Walker.  The horse really complemented Stewart's lanky build.   Lovely, lovely horse.  When Pie got old Jimmy Stewart bough him from the studios and retired him on a pasture wth other horses.   I've watched interviews with Stewart when he'd talk about how he loved working with that horse.

Lynn White

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Sounds like a good movie, Carla.  How did I miss this one?
 

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I saw this on HBO when it came out.  This did not really happen but it is a really good movie.  It was done on a low budget.



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Maryben Stover

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I actually liked Band of Angels much better than Gone With the Wind.  Scarlett was such an ass.

Amantha (Yvonne Del Carlo) in Angels was much better.  Also Sydney Poitier was in Angels too.  The soundtrack was pretty good too.



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Truman Prevatt

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Best Western - Unforgiven. Eastwood, Hackman and Morgan Freeman. 

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It may not be as gritty or realistic, but I gotta give "High Noon" good marks.  It was one of the few movies played in nearly real time.  If you see it uncut and without commercials, from start to finish, the action in the movie occurs in sync with the elapsed time, whenever they showed a clock it was correct relative to the time the movie started.

It's #27 on the American Film Institute's list of great films.

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November 25, 2014 at 2:51 PM
Best Western - Unforgiven. Eastwood, Hackman and Morgan Freeman. 

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Carla Richardson

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It was low profile, I only heard about it from a friend!  But it is a really good movie with lots of eye candy horses and, well, Don Johnson and several others, they're Aussies, and man they can ride.

Carla Richardson

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We used to have a movie day when I worked for AAA and one year we rented Bad Day at Black Rock because our lead attorney thought it was a great movie.  It was interesting I have to admit.



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Bruce Weary

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I remember reading somewhere that there is an anachronism in High Noon--apparently in some scene a bus is visible moving along some road nearby and was caught by the camera. I have never watched closely enough to see it.     Bruce

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The 50's and 60's has so many great films. From the great westerns or war movies (Hell to Eternity, Town Without Pity) to Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, the Misfits and the great Liz Taylor movies of the time.  High Noon was a fantastic movie.   And lets not forget one of my favorite - "You can call me Mr. Tibbs" In The Heat of the Night and of course the Graduate. This era was a great era for movies.

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Now I have to watch High Noon again Bruce. Thank you!!


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Bruce Weary

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Truman--
 Have you ever seen a movie called "Brady's Escape"? Not sure if it's a true story but I suppose it could have been. A bit dated by now, but a good horse movie, nonetheless.    

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On 11/25/2014 4:55 PM, Truman Prevatt wrote:
The 50's and 60's has so many great films
Dr. Strangelove or How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb. 

Loved it when Slim Pickens rode the bomb down.

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Truman Prevatt

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No I haven’t.  The War Horse that came out a few years ago was a good movie - a bit depressing but war is depressing. 

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Truman Prevatt

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How could we forget Dr. Strangelove.  A classic in satire and a testament to Peter Sellers playing 3 different characters.  This movie was satire at its best. 

Truman

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Teddy Lancaster

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War Horse is worth watching, but there is a FAR more realistic documentary out there. NOT the "romanticized" like War Horse. Similar name I assume (I cannot remember)
WAR IS HELL!
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Bruce Weary

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Nov 25, 2014, 7:52:17 PM11/25/14
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Classic line from Dr. Strangelove: "You two can't fight in here! This is a WAR room! "

Bruce Weary

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Nov 25, 2014, 7:53:39 PM11/25/14
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Oh, and who can forget "Open Range"?   

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I totally agree! The Quiet Man is his best role. I love this movie. I tell people to watch that movie if you want to know what it is to be raised in an Irish family!!!!
 
 
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I personally think "The Quiet Man" was Duke's best role.   I never get sick of that movie and all the colorful character actors in it. 
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Don't get me started on movies Kelley!  I can put together all sorts of lists of great movies.  Depends what you want.  I can make a list of good tear-jerkers,  esoteric  movies made by the Soviets, silent classics, forgotten westerns, film noir, etc.  I have a whole list devoted to Robert Mitchim.   Love just about anything with Robert Mitchim in it.  Heck, I just like to LOOK at Robert Mitchim.   Sorry Truman, Duke was bigger than life but not much of a versatile actor.
 
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Kelley <reckles...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why doesn't someone put together a winter watching endurance riders movie list! Kelley
 
 
 
A couple of the Duke’s better movies are “ The Cowboys”  and  “Hondo”    True Grit was not that great overall but his last scene is a classic.
 
And if you just want to go back to the old “heart throb” guys not many better looking than Errol Flynn  (he was a jerk, but he could ride though)  Nobody beats Clark Gable, he rode well in some of his pictures.  I’ve long since forgotten the names except Gone With The Wind 
 
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Bite your tongue!  The Duke - none better’;-).  One of my best friends I met in graduate school.  He was a child prodigy - 20 years old in graduate school in the history departments in one of the best history departments in the US (Johns Hopkins).  He was from Canada.  His parents came from Lithuania to Montreal by the way of German concentration camps.  He was a  huge John Wayne fan.  He would routinely quite lines from John Wayne movies to make his point - particularly when it involved picking up young female coeds for a night of fun;-).
 
To him John Wayne was the ultimate in Americana.  I have to agree with him given it was the early 1970’s.  Here’s to my friend Arnuss Alsascus - the greatest John Wayne fan I’ve ever known. He is now retired for the faculty of the University of Calgary and still the worlds biggest fan of the Duke!  He can quote ever famous line and some not so famous line from every John Wayne movie. 
 
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Barbara MCrary

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Slim Pickens was one of our favorite characters. He was a rodeo clown at one point. We owned, back in the 1970s, a used 2-horse Fiberglas trailer that was said to have been owned by Slim. We were told he trailered his mule in it, the mule having been part of his clown act. I saw him one time at our county fair here in CA and I wanted so badly to walk up to him an tell him we had his old trailer, but I didn’t have the nerve then. Now, being older, I could have done that. He was truly fun to watch.

 

Barbara

 

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Maryben Stover

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Nov 25, 2014, 8:54:20 PM11/25/14
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I'm half Irish and half Italian.  One of my favorite movies is Moonstruck.     

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Lynn White

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High Noon.  Yep, great movie, and it is pretty much in real time.  I love the supporting cast:  Grace Kelly, Lloyd Bridges, Katy Jurado, Lon Chaney Jr, and Sheb Wooley.  Though Sheb Wooley didn't ride much in this movie, that guy could really ride.  My husband met Slim Pickens at a barbecue in Mountain Home in the late 1960's.  Slim Pickens was a very nice man, very down to earth kinda guy.  This is a great thread!  Way better than some of the other subjects heatedly debated!

Lynn White

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Sometimes I like to watch Lawrence of Arabia just to see the horses.  Since this movie was filmed on location in Jordan the horses all had old Bedouin breeding.   There is not a  lot of chrome on these horses because the Bedouin were superstitious about color markings on horses.   Most look like our endurance Arabians. You don't see any extreme dishy faced Arabians as this was not considered a good trait in a horse.   Another horse candy movie is the original "Three Feathers" filmed in the 1930's on location.  Interesting to see the conformation of the horses.  Movie is pretty good too. 

Shara Llewellyn

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I too loved the "Man From Snowy River".  In 1995 I went to Australia, stayed with one of the stuntmen from that movie, and many others filmed in Australia,and rode his horse Ace that he rode in that movie.  He was also a bush racer and we went to many races while there.
This photo is me on Ace my first day there after we had chased some calves back to there pasture.

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Janice Taylor

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Yes, Brady's Escape was quite the horse movie.  Id love to have a DVD of that.
Just watched Josie Wales for the hundredth time a couple of nights ago.  Love all of Clint Eastwood's westerns.
My fave John Wayne movie is The Cowboys.
Janice

Lynne Glazer

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Nov 25, 2014, 11:40:51 PM11/25/14
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Re: the Searchers, a friend and I saw it here in July, a small screening theater with a goodly screen--we both thought it held up well. Any distance rider knew better when the clueless guy rode his horse to death, as he staggered through the desert carrying his saddle wordlessly told of his hubris. It was great to see the Monument Valley cinematography so soon after having recently passed through the area.

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“If John Ford is the greatest Western director, The Searchers is arguably his greatest film, at once a grand outdoor spectacle and a film about one man’s troubling moral codes, a big-screen adventure of the 1950s that anticipated the complex themes and characters that would dominate the 1970s. John Wayne gives his finest performance in a role that predated screen antiheroes of the 1970s. Natalie Wood is striking in her brief role as the 16-year-old Debbie, lost between two worlds. Winton C. Hoch’s Technicolor photography captures Monument Valley’s savage beauty with subtle grace. The Searchers paved the way for revisionist Westerns, and influenced such movies as Taxi Driver (1976).” Mark Deming, Rovi. Directors Guild, Outstanding Directorial Achievement, 1957
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Joe Long

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Nov 26, 2014, 1:47:30 AM11/26/14
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Well, this isn't a movie it's a Western novel and I can't remember the name of it.  But it gave me a good laugh.  At one point the hero has to flee for his life from a town where they're going to hang him.  The story is telling of his desperate flight and the heroic efforts of the horse.  Then I read the line, "In three days, he was a hundred miles from that town."  That broke me up.

Then a real downer:  the horse he escaped on has a bad fall and dies.

November 25, 2014 at 9:23 PM

Yes, Brady's Escape was quite the horse movie.  Id love to have a DVD of that.
Just watched Josie Wales for the hundredth time a couple of nights ago.  Love all of Clint Eastwood's westerns.
My fave John Wayne movie is The Cowboys.
Janice

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Nov 26, 2014, 1:13:11 PM11/26/14
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After I get done compiling the list of membership ideaS from here for Mike (which I am behind on :(  I'm going to gather these movies in a list and post them to my blog and share. Always looking for a good horse movie!

Maryben Stover

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Nov 26, 2014, 1:21:20 PM11/26/14
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Now isn't this better and much more fun than arguing about AERC rules?



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Lynn White

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Sorry, that movie is "The Four Feathers."  Don't watch the remake.  Stick to the old 1930's version. 
 

Joe Long

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Nov 26, 2014, 3:16:56 PM11/26/14
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Ay-yup.

November 26, 2014 at 11:21 AM
Now isn't this better and much more fun than arguing about AERC rules?



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endurancehorsemt

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Got out of work early today, and nobody's home, so I'm indulging myself, watching The Searchers. I'm having fantasies of overdubbing this movie :) It's quite a serious movie about some girls that get kidnapped by Indians when their home is burned down and family is killed. John Wayne searches for them for years on horseback. But so many of the scenes could be overdubbed and turned into a hilarious endurance ride movie. 

At one point John Wayne is bending down over an arrow made of rocks on the ground - he's marking an endurance trail. 

At another point a bunch of them are standing around trying to figure out which way the Comanches went but they are looking here and there like they are trying to find trail markers ;) 

Then there is this epic line, which we do NOT want to adopt as endurance riders... but maybe it could be modified (anyone want to take a stab at it, haha)? The cowboys are tracking the Comanches: 

Cowboy: They gotta stop some time!

John Wayne: Noooo, human rides a horse until it dies, then goes on afoot. Comanche comes along, gets that horse up, rides him 20 more miles. Then eats him. 


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Ginger Bill

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I really like Bite The Bullet as it's main subject is ENDURANCE.
 

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YESSSS!

 

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Hondo is one of my favorites.  Lots of great riding  and multiple story lines.

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The Searchers is a great movie.  The Cinematography is to die for.  The movie is a great character study and rather ahead of its time.   Never seen Bite the Bullet. 
 

 
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