Odonata envelopes

90 views
Skip to first unread message

Jennifer C. Girón Duque

unread,
Sep 4, 2025, 12:51:42 PMSep 4
to ECN-L
Where are people getting their Odonata translucent envelopes nowadays?

I'm looking at 3x5 in card sleeves on Amazon, which some claim to be archival. There are options with autoadhesive flaps (like this one), do we know if that adhesive is collections-safe?

Any recommendations welcome.

Cheers,

Jennifer

Seago, Ainsley

unread,
Sep 4, 2025, 2:22:38 PMSep 4
to ec...@ecnweb.org
Hi Jennifer!

We’re using this specific product for both odonates and papered leps (a collection which is slowly getting de-papered): https://www.clearbags.com/4-x-6-ldpe-plain-opened-bags-side-seal-100-pieces-pe1h46.html

Easy to heat seal, easy to see through.

 Cheers,
 -Ainsley 

Section of Invertebrate Zoology

Carnegie Museum of Natural History

4400 Forbes Avenue

Pittsburgh, PA 15213-4080

 

From: Jennifer C. Girón Duque <enti...@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2025 at 12:51 PM
To: ECN-L <ec...@ecnweb.org>
Subject: [ECN-L] Odonata envelopes

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
--
Entomological Collections Network Listserv
ecnweb.org
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ECN-L+un...@ecnweb.org.



The information contained in this message and/or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any system and destroy any copies. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender.

Furth, David

unread,
Sep 4, 2025, 2:50:23 PMSep 4
to ECN-L
Try the International Odonata Research Institute, Gaylord or Hollinger Metal Edge.

There was an ECN Listserve string about this in March (see attached):


David G. Furth, Ph.D.

Emeritus Collections Manager & Research Associate

Department of Entomology

MRC 165, P.O. Box 37012

National Museum of Natural History

Smithsonian Institution

Washington, D. C. 20013-7012  USA

Phone: 202-633-0990

Fax: 202-786-2894

Email: fur...@si.edu

Website: https://naturalhistory.si.edu/staff/david-furth

 

 


From: Jennifer C. Girón Duque <enti...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2025 12:51 PM

To: ECN-L <ec...@ecnweb.org>
Subject: [ECN-L] Odonata envelopes
 

External Email - Exercise Caution

--
Odonata Envelopes Gardner.pdf
Odonata Envelopes Gardner2.pdf
Odonata Envelopes Gardner3.pdf
Odonata Envelopes Gorring.pdf
Odonata Envelopes Ivie.pdf
Odonata Envelopes Whisenant.pdf
Odonata Envelopes Yanega.pdf

Christy Bills

unread,
Sep 4, 2025, 6:40:44 PMSep 4
to ECN-L, sea...@carnegiemnh.org
Ainsley - do you experience any static damage of the Lep wings?  We have about 6000 Leps in Odonate envelopes and I'm noticing some of the smaller specimens are suffering from the static.  Wondering if anyone else is having this issue and found a solution. 

-Christy Bills

Furth, David

unread,
Sep 5, 2025, 11:37:06 AMSep 5
to EC...@ecnweb.org, sea...@carnegiemnh.org

Christy,

 

Are your Odonate envelopes polyethylene like Ainsley’s or possibly acetate (more probable to have static issues)??

 

Dave

 

David G. Furth, Ph.D.

Emeritus Collections Manager & Research Associate

Department of Entomology

MRC 165, P.O. Box 37012

National Museum of Natural History

Smithsonian Institution

Washington, D. C. 20013-7012  USA

Phone: 202-633-0990

Fax: 202-786-2894

Email: fur...@si.edu

Website: https://naturalhistory.si.edu/staff/david-furth

 

 

From: Christy Bills <u016...@gcloud.utah.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2025 6:41 PM
To: ECN-L <ec...@ecnweb.org>
Cc: sea...@carnegiemnh.org <sea...@carnegiemnh.org>
Subject: Re: [ECN-L] Odonata envelopes

 

External Email - Exercise Caution

Ainsley - do you experience any static damage of the Lep wings?  We have about 6000 Leps in Odonate envelopes and I'm noticing some of the smaller specimens are suffering from the static.  Wondering if anyone else is having this issue and found a solution. 

Mike Ferro

unread,
Sep 5, 2025, 12:57:35 PMSep 5
to EC...@ecnweb.org, sea...@carnegiemnh.org
Working over (against) dryer sheets might be an easy way to avoid static build up. 

Mike
--
Michael L. Ferro
Collection Manager, Clemson University Arthropod Collection (CUAC)
Dept. of Plant and Environmental Sciences
277 Poole Agricultural Center
Clemson University, Clemson, SC 29634-0310
OFFICE: 307 Long Hall
spongym...@gmail.com (preferred)
mfe...@clemson.edu
Subject Editor: The Coleopterists Bulletin; Insecta Mundi
Natural History Literature Rescue GoodOldPaper.org

Christy Bills

unread,
Sep 5, 2025, 6:59:50 PMSep 5
to ECN-L, Furth, David, sea...@carnegiemnh.org
Dave - 
great question!  Mostly the ones Bioquip sold and I don't know what they were.  Anybody have an idea? 

Screenshot 2025-09-05 165922.jpg

Furth, David

unread,
Sep 8, 2025, 11:58:27 AMSep 8
to Christy Bills, ECN-L, sea...@carnegiemnh.org

Christy,

I checked an old BioQuip catalog.  They are 1.25 mil ultra-clear non-static polypropylene.  So probably not the problem.  You might want to consult a museum conservator, especially with some chemical background.  Unfortunately, not enough museum realize the value of having conservators on staff.

 

Dave

 

David G. Furth, Ph.D.

Emeritus Collections Manager & Research Associate

Department of Entomology

MRC 165, P.O. Box 37012

National Museum of Natural History

Smithsonian Institution

Washington, D. C. 20013-7012  USA

Phone: 202-633-0990

Fax: 202-786-2894

Email: fur...@si.edu

Website: https://naturalhistory.si.edu/staff/david-furth

 

 

From: Christy Bills <u016...@gcloud.utah.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2025 7:00 PM
To: ECN-L <ec...@ecnweb.org>
Cc: Furth, David <fur...@si.edu>; sea...@carnegiemnh.org <sea...@carnegiemnh.org>
Subject: Re: [ECN-L] Odonata envelopes

 

External Email - Exercise Caution

Dave - 

great question!  Mostly the ones Bioquip sold and I don't know what they were.  Anybody have an idea? 

 

Tommy McElrath

unread,
Oct 6, 2025, 10:58:41 AMOct 6
to EC...@ecnweb.org
Hey all, 
Ecology Supplies is now selling sealable Odonata envelopes and boxes for said envelopes. I’ve helped them prototype and design a bit and I’m pretty impressed. 

Sincerely, 

--
TOMMY MCELRATH
Insect Collection Manager

Illinois Natural History Survey
Prairie Research Institute
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Natural Resources Bldg.
615 E. Peabody Dr. | MC 650
Champaign, IL 61820
217-300-5938t...@illinois.edu
insect.inhs.illinois.edu
 
facebook    instagram     



Under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act any written communication to or from university employees regarding university business is a public record and may be subject to public disclosure. 

On Sep 8, 2025, at 11:58 AM, 'Furth, David' via ECN-L <EC...@ecnweb.org> wrote:

Christy,
I checked an old BioQuip catalog.  They are 1.25 mil ultra-clear non-static polypropylene.  So probably not the problem.  You might want to consult a museum conservator, especially with some chemical background.  Unfortunately, not enough museum realize the value of having conservators on staff.
 
Dave
 
David G. Furth, Ph.D.
Emeritus Collections Manager & Research Associate
Department of Entomology
MRC 165, P.O. Box 37012
National Museum of Natural History
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, D. C. 20013-7012  USA
 
 
From: Christy Bills <u016...@gcloud.utah.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 5, 2025 7:00 PM
To: ECN-L <ec...@ecnweb.org>
Cc: Furth, David <fur...@si.edu>; sea...@carnegiemnh.org <sea...@carnegiemnh.org>
Subject: Re: [ECN-L] Odonata envelopes
 
External Email - Exercise Caution
Dave -  
great question!  Mostly the ones Bioquip sold and I don't know what they were.  Anybody have an idea? 
 

<image001.jpg>

Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages