Whence the DEP meeting notes?

[Bob Nystrom]

Greetings, Dartisans!

You may be wondering why there's been no DEP meeting notes for a few weeks. Part of that is the holidays, but also it's because we've decided to put the meetings on ice for a while.

This doesn't mean that the language is going on ice. On the contrary, Dart is evolving faster than ever and we felt the meetings were slowing us down. A short meeting over VC isn't an effective way to do large scale, meaningful language changes, so we found they tended to be used to either:

1. Give a final yay/nay vote for features that were designed elsewhere.
   
2. Hash out tiny corner cases and small scale syntactic sugar features.

We don't have any features in the pipeline that are ready for #1 right now and #2 is an annoying distraction for the important language work that is happening right now.

A bunch of people on the team are cranking hard on experimental implementations of generic methods, config-specific code, and hopefully soon non-nullable types. Those are moving along well and we want to let the team focus on those without also having to worry about other minor language changes.

Cheers!

– bob

[Joel Trottier-Hébert]

good to hear! keep up the good work! :)

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[Günter Zöchbauer]

Thanks for the update!

Always good to get some hints about the priorities and what's going on in general.

[Don Olmstead]

Any issues to follow for the implementations of those specific features @Bob?

Awesome work! Looking forward to all those things

[Bob Nystrom]

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Don Olmstead <don.j.o...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any issues to follow for the implementations of those specific features @Bob?

Good question. I'm not sure how these are tracked.

• Leaf probably knows the status of generic methods.
  
• Florian has been working on config-specific code.
  
• No one is hacking on non-nullable types yet, but hopefully it will get picked up soon.
  

Cheers!

– bob

[Lasse Damgaard]

What does this mean for the DEP process, for instance if one wants to propose a spec change to lift some constraints on the analyzer?

I'm thinking of https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/issues/25233

Thanks 

 Lasse

[Bob Nystrom]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:00 AM, Lasse Damgaard <la...@uber.com> wrote:

What does this mean for the DEP process, for instance if one wants to propose a spec change to lift some constraints on the analyzer?

I'm thinking of https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/issues/25233

I think for those kinds of changes, I would see if it's something that we could support in strong mode, which avoids most of the debate about what should and shouldn't go in the language spec. It also doesn't require going through anything like TC52 or the DEP committee.

I added a comment to that bug to that effect.

Cheers!

– bob