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Hi Michael,
Thank you for your response!
In my personal experience with my kids (AuDHD and ADHD; I’m also an ADHDer and dyscalculic) they have seriously struggled in classes where the instructor sort of doesn’t believe in them/their needs. They’re very capable students, very conscientious and do very well in most classes, except for those where the instructor is very rigid. For instance, in AP Bio the teacher was making them read very heavy research articles “because in college you’ll have to do this” or even “in grad school.” My PhD is in biology of reproduction and *I* found the articles dense. It was basically impossible to get him to change even after many meetings. My kiddo ended up going to another class in addition to their regular one, to be able to get the knowledge & skills they felt they needed/wanted. Now they’re in AP human geography and the instructor is basing it heavily on textbook reading, which is a struggle for my kid. The teacher is refusing to provide alternatives and for instance printed out the slides—like 8/page so the letter is tiny. My kid has learned to be a very strong self-advocate and I also advocate for them and still.
At Cornell we’ve had many students share that they struggle because of lack of accommodations. I have some questions about your university or respondents:
Could you please add more on what needs are not covered by ADA, 504 and other legislations?
Thanks again,
Flor
My workday may look different from yours. Please answer at a time that supports your wellbeing.
Florencia (Flor) Ardon, PhD | She| Her | Hers
Stephen H. Weiss Provost’s Teaching Fellow
Study Skills Lecturer & Neurodivergent Student Support Program Manager, Learning Strategies Center
Neurodiversity @ Cornell lead | Advisor, Student Neurodiversity Alliance at Cornell
fa...@cornell.edu | neurodi...@cornell.edu
https://lsc.cornell.edu/neurodiversity-at-cornell/ | https://blogs.cornell.edu/neurodiversity/
Celebrated identities: ADHDer, Latina, Woman of Color, Immigrant, First Gen

Here at UMBC, our teams are the Retrivers. So there is a large community of "retriever nation", big homecoming events, carnival, and bonfire. It's not very inclusive for those with sensory overload. So they are not "accessible". How can you identify as a retriever if you do not feel included? ...lack of belonging. The physical events are accessible. Interpreters are available when needed, transcription is offered, but... For my asd students, there is no sensory room, noise-canceling headphones available. If you ask why, the response will be "no one requested them". leads me to the next point: you do not know how to ask for something you didn't know you could even ask for. I had a student I met with weekly, and he told me he didn't attend an event because it would be too noisy. I recommend the headphones, and his eyes widened and said, "I never thought of that."
Could you please add more on what needs are not covered by ADA, 504, and other legislation?
Many of the points listed above are not required under current legislation. If you consider all the potential supports covered in the IDEA and 504 as they apply to K-12, compared with what the ADA and 504 require of universities, the differences are significant. IDEA can require a behavioral consultant, OT, PT, Speech, resource teacher, etc.
Post-secondary: all supports fall away and are replaced with Accommodations. Essentially, accommodations do not include supports. Peer mentoring, coaching, and regularly scheduled one-on-one meetings with someone are not required by the ADA or 504. They would be considered voluntary support services. If we take a student who is a quad and requires a PSA, in K-12, the district is responsible for providing and paying for that aide. In college, the student becomes responsible for paying
Hope this make sense
Michael
Hi Michael,
Thank you so much for your detailed answer! You seem to offer many resources and support! I agree—disability services offices are only obligated to provide access. Our initiative started partially to offer the extra piece not covered by law, because that’s truly needed.
RE: my kiddo--I already sent an official request for accommodations. The special ed people know me and we have a good relationship. One of my kids has had an IEP the whole time, the other had a 504 from 4 to 12 grade.
They know (and I tell them) that I lead the neurodiversity initiative at Cornell, that I give workshops on this topic, that I actually teach study skills and collaborate a lot with student disability services, so am familiar with all accommodations given in college and the workplace. (I also provide consultations to students and faculty). But, when a teacher doesn’t want to provide accommodations, they don’t. I’m attaching a picture of the slides my daughter’s teacher gave her…. (he does not post them or any notes, etc. on Canvas, and doesn’t teach much during the class).
I always think about the parents who have virtually no free time to dedicate to deal with all of this. Pff.
Thanks again!
Flor
