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MessageJohn,
Thank you for your response and ay assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Scott and Christine Fortenberry
6808 East County Road 92, Carr Co 80612
From: John Kefalas <kefa...@co.larimer.co.us>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 18:14
To: sc410...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: City of Fort Collins
Hello Scott,
Thank you for bringing this unfortunate matter to my attention, and I am sorry for all that you and your wife have been enduring regarding the biosolids operation, the prairie dog situation and your interactions with the City of Fort Collins. I am glad that Ms. Jess Callen was able to provide some assistance when you folks interacted, and he works with the LC Extension Office as our Agriculture and Natural Resources Specialist. I will follow up tomorrow with our county manager when we meet to discuss your concerns and possible courses of action to see if we can help with the communication between you folks and the City of Fort Collins to address these issues. In the meantime, feel free to call me on my cell phone (listed below) to discuss further as there is a lot to unpack in your email. Be well.
| John Kefalas (he/him) County Commissioner, District 1 |
Commissioners' Office 200 W Oak St | 2nd Floor PO Box 1190, Fort Collins, CO 80522-1190 Cell: (720) 254-7598 |
Wow, that is immensely disappointing. One family against an entire City Givernment, who can stand a chance, but seems to be the way of things. Good people always finish last in this world.
Hello Scott,I reached out to our county manager and the City of FC, and I've concluded that ultimately this matter is between you and the city; the county does not have any jurisdiction, and based on their information, they've addressed and clarified at least some of the issues such as the fence repair.
Mr. Kefalas,
Just following up after receiving no support in the below matter as your constituent within District 1. I understand you ultimately took the unsubstantiated word of the City of Fort Collins over our request for assistance; however, it has ultimately been discovered that this is not “just” a private matter between my wife and I as tax paying private citizens of Larimer County and that of a tax-exempt overburdening entity, that being the City of Fort Collins. It appears that the City of Fort Collins enjoys an elevated status over private citizens in all matters. I just hope the next Commissioner for District 1 will take a complete review of requests for help in the future and not the unsubstantiated word of a City of Fort Collins personnel and their ongoing bullying tactics. To be completely correct, yes, the City of Fort Collis did adjudicate some aspects of the original request / complaint by using deceptive and pseudo legal tactics in stalling long enough to allow statute of limitations to run out and key excuses of “it was before my time” (even though the City of Fort Collin has been around since the 1870s). And yes, the City continues to show they are not liable for damage from their tenants, even though they can’t produce a lease agreement or the name of the individual they allowed to use their land and ultimately destroyed thousands of dollars of our property. And they don’t stand behind verbal statements/contracts and only abide by written proof, I guess Colorado and Larimer County are no longer a verbal contract sate/County. So yes, they sure did “take care of it”.
The City of Fort Collin’s assertion that they took care of the matters and their utterly and completely false assertion that the land in question that is overly burden and used by the City of Fort Collins is public and thus the City can do whatever they want and however they want is categorically false. The City continues, almost weekly, spill human waste along the westerly property line easement that is both our private land and also a public right of way as well as public County Road 92, so Larimer Couty does have jurisdiction, even though they choose not to involve themselves and protect their constituents and allow City of Fort Collins to go unchecked. Larimer County Health and Safety was supposed to produce a report and work on mitigation; however, no word has been provided since April of this year. The City continues to drive their uncovered human waste spreading trucks along our private road and the County’s public right of way and on County Road 92, again unchecked. The City of Fort Collins destroyed/altered a once paved road bed without permit or permission of a public right of way within Larimer County’s jurisdiction and now that road is no longer a properly built all weather road required by Larimer County standards. The City of Fort Collins also damaged/destroyed a public corner land survey monument marker that used to be a class 2 misdemeanor and yet again Larimer County stands by and does nothing. I wasn’t aware that the City of Fort Collins was above the law. It also appears that the City can place obstacles at will within the public right of way without fear of reprisal. Can you please direct me to any state, county or local laws and or statutes that allows the City of Fort Collins, outside their own jurisdiction, to be essentially lawless and block public and private access?
It is very troubling to see that lack of concern in this matter, I am genuinely shocked and taken aback by how a rogue département within the City of Fort Collins outside its jurisdiction can seemingly destroy public and private land/property coupled with blocking access to property and those who are elected to protect private constituents stand by and do nothing.
I am glad I served my country for 22 plus years only to come home to Colorado be treated like hot garbage, but I guess it is to be expected now.
Scott and Christine Fortenberry
6808 East County Road 92
From: Scott Fortenberry <sc410...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2025 17:32
To: John Kefalas <kefa...@co.larimer.co.us>
Subject: Re: City of Fort Collins
Wow, that is immensely disappointing. One family against an entire City Givernment, who can stand a chance, but seems to be the way of things. Good people always finish last in this world.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 16:43 John Kefalas <kefa...@co.larimer.co.us> wrote:
Hello Scott,
I reached out to our county manager and the City of FC, and I've concluded that ultimately this matter is between you and the city; the county does not have any jurisdiction, and based on their information, they've addressed and clarified at least some of the issues such as the fence repair.
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Mr. Kefalas,
First, thank you for responding and quickly, it is appreciated.
The following are our desired outcomes:
b. The spillage continues at the intersection of Larimer County East County Road 92 and the ROW (formally U.S. highway 87/185). This poses additional issues and potential health risk from exposure to biosolids/human waste to the school children waiting to catch the bus at this location and also anyone collecting mail at the same intersection location. Regardless of the assertion by the City of Fort Collin’s to us personally stating that biosolids are perfectly safe and providing literature to this assertion, I am not willing to endure continued exposure to a known human health risk.
i. Class B biosolids have undergone treatment that has reduced but not eliminated pathogens. By definition, Class B biosolids may contain pathogens. As a result, Federal regulations for use of Class B biosolids require additional measures to restrict public access and to limit livestock grazing for specified time periods after land application [40 CFR Part 503].
ii. Whereas EPA rules [40 CFR Part 503] restrict public access to lands treated with Class B biosolids in order to protect public health, these rules do not apply to workers involved with Class B biosolids handling and land application.
i. The road, unknowing to us, was modified to an attempted dirt/gravel road that was an epic failure as it was turned into a sticky dirt mess for nearly three weeks that took hours and entire weekends to clean essentially sticky dirt/gravel from underneath vehicles by hand as car washing undercarriage didn’t work. I spent 30 plus hours cleaning by hand all my vehicles over this masterpiece of failure by the City of Fort Colins. Then after addressing with the manager of the biosolids facility, the City of Fort Collins attempted to correct their catastrophe and made it a simple dirt road, but exceedingly hardened that makes in nearly impossible to grade without professional grading equipment.
i. We would offer that the City of Fort Collins and their enormously vast tax-free land holdings well beyond 50,000 plus acers and counting throughout Larimer and Weld Counties alone and outside of their jurisdiction of the City of Fort Collins city limit, not to mention just the 26,600 acers of tax-free land that makes up the former Meadows Spring Ranch has several access points to and from both East County Road 92 in Larimer County, Weld County Road 126, which is actually closer to I-25 access back to the City of Fort Collins, and also the I-25 frontage road. They also could use the easement road from the northern private property to the vast land holdings and biosolids facility. They also have several roads into their land and biosolids facility all along East County Road 92; however, just as this ROW old Highway 87 road is unmaintained/mis maintained by them, they also can’t manage properly large land holding and the roads needed to access their own property. All the mismanagement and health issues they pose by using the road and not paying tazes for commercial level use across county road 126 and County Road 92 as well as the public ROW/Private properties should make them ineligible for ongoing use. Their tax fee commercial traffic and side hustle grazing association leasing business also adds an undue burden to everyone along East County Road 92 and also on the current public right of way. We would ask that they be forced to use another route as is required by their Colorado Regulation for biosolids transport and for the safety of the community. Ultimately it would be preferred that they use their billion-dollar budget to construct their own private road in and out of their facilities. We even offered to trade/sell the current ROW (once vacated) as part of our property so they would have unobstructed/unvetted private access to the 26,600 acer Biosolids Facility and it would alleviate many if not all the issues as they would have their own private road in exchange for a portion of what is the 6950 East County Road property to our south. We were willing to move the fence at our cost and build our own private driveway across the acquired portion and we would then each have our own private roads, but they were absolutely not interested. Instead, they provided a draft private road access agreement that essentially uses the same status quo (in their mind) and bullying tactics that they will do whatever and to whomever they want. This recommendation is insulting at best and we fear reprisal and continued bulling tactics by a municipality that has lost sight of the fact they don’t have unchecked jurisdiction out here and the land that the right of way exists on is on private land and is still a privilege to use and not a right. It would be preferred to retain the approximate 1084 feet of public ROW easement road contained on City of Fort Collins held land (assuming they own the land but not sure, if they actually had a legal lot review conducted by Larimer County vice cherry picking inaccurate data for their own gain based in utter falsehood)) so we would retain uninhibited access (as a land locked property) to the Larimer East County Road 92 with undue cost ( we are out tens of thousands already) to us from the City of Fort Collins or other demonstrated demonstrative actions by the same.
ii. We also have no interest in establishing a vague open-ended multi-use private easement if the public ROW is vacated. There is no reason for our new westerly neighbor (not the City) to use or have assess across our private land, but this seemingly is so the City can attempt to use deceptive tactics to try and establish keeping the road as is for access to multiple property owners (20 feet wide, etc.). It needs to be clear that the westerly property has connected land and already established driveway to East County Road 92, they don’t need a second easement across a portion of my property as a second driveway as they are NOT landlocked. As there is 75 feet of current ROW attached with the western private property owner and also 150 across the City’s property (they own both southern properties to the west and east of former U.S. Highway 87) to the south of us, if our land was vacated of the public ROW, it would still give yet another potential access point for the City as they could use the current land with the neighbor they want to drag into this matter for a private easement and we could be left out of this on-going nightmare other than to have continued access to East County Road 92 across their property either as a retain public ROW or a no-cost private easement. Again, we would rather there only be a vacating of our property so the City can’t use demonstrative tactics to bully us into something.
My wife and I do understand that the County Commissioners/Managers can’t intervene in private matters such as the nearly $15,000 of damage to our private property due to the City of Fort Collin’s gross mismanagement from an epidemic that went unchecked for two years even with significant work in forcing them to take action or provide compensation for over $10,000 worth of property damage from them and their tenants (but will not provide the names and lease agreements to seek compensation), or blocking us from our private property separate from the public right of way, but I am trying to just shed light how the insidious tactics and horrid treatment the City of Fort Collins wealds on its rural neighbors. We would ask your help in matters that affect public health and the current public ROW by stopping the City of Fort Collins from spilling human waste on our private land and also public access roads and attached county roads used by everyone. I would ask that the County Authority reassess the City’s private holdings outside of City limits in the form of essentially private business and tens of thousands of acers established for commercial use that was once zoned for open /ag/farm use and now are commercial business. I would also ask that the City’s vast land holdings be reassessed from tax exempt status as their activities and significant commercial use of all the roads and areas throughout the County places an undue tax burden on the private citizens of the County. We are lucky to have East County Road 92’s 2 plus miles maintained once a year, but it is degraded rapidly by the City and other tax exempt entities at a vastly higher level than that of the County 92 private citizens and yet our taxes increase and in part because of the continued tax exempt from such large land holdings, specifically the City of Fort Collins and not acting as a public municipality but rather as a private company.
Again, thank you for your time in the matter. Please don’t hesitate to call us if you want if you want to talk this out in person or over the phone.
Scott and Christine Fortenberry
6808 East County Road 92
Carr, CO 80612-9506
(970) 568-6434 / (760) 415-4860
From: John Kefalas <kefa...@co.larimer.co.us>
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2025 14:41
To: sc410...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: City of Fort Collins
Hello Scott & Christine,
I went back and re-read the original 3/2 email that we received from you folks and the various email exchanges, especially the most recent one. I wish to validate your frustration, and it appears that very little has changed with your situation and the City of FC wastewater treatment biosolids facility that is adjacent to your property. I acknowledge your complaints and the updated information since we last communicated in March, and I will follow up again with our county manager and the appropriate staff. I respectfully request that you provide me with your specific, desired outcomes to resolve this unfortunate situation and how you see the county's role in helping to resolve this matter. For the various complaints and concerns, what would you folks like to see happen. That would help a lot. Thank you.
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Mr. Kefalas,
I didn’t want this going to all Cc’d, but attached is the recent Legal Lot description we attained from Larimer County Planning.
Again, thank you for your attention in this matter.
Scott and Christine Fortenberry
6808 East County Road 92
Carr, CO 80612-9506
(970) 568-6434 / (760) 415-4860
From: John Kefalas <kefa...@co.larimer.co.us>
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2025 14:41
To: sc410...@gmail.com
Cc: 8thdi...@co.larimer.co.us; david....@coloradoan.com; rebecc...@coloradoan.com; vol...@co.larimer.co.us; kadr...@co.larimer.co.us; healthcomm...@larimer.org; comment...@state.co.us; Sydney McLeod <mcle...@co.larimer.co.us>; tim.l...@state.co.us; Fox News <sup...@foxnews.zendesk.com>; Rep. Smith <lesley.sm...@coleg.gov>; R8EISC <R8E...@epa.gov>; janice.marc...@coleg.gov
Subject: Re: City of Fort Collins
Hello Scott & Christine,
I went back and re-read the original 3/2 email that we received from you folks and the various email exchanges, especially the most recent one. I wish to validate your frustration, and it appears that very little has changed with your situation and the City of FC wastewater treatment biosolids facility that is adjacent to your property. I acknowledge your complaints and the updated information since we last communicated in March, and I will follow up again with our county manager and the appropriate staff. I respectfully request that you provide me with your specific, desired outcomes to resolve this unfortunate situation and how you see the county's role in helping to resolve this matter. For the various complaints and concerns, what would you folks like to see happen. That would help a lot. Thank you.
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John Kefalas (he/him) County Commissioner, District 1 |
Commissioners' Office 200 W Oak St | 2nd Floor PO Box 1190, Fort Collins, CO 80522-1190 Cell: (720) 254-7598 |
Thank you Scott, and I am in the process of reading your detailed email; will discus again with our county manager.
Hello Scott,The county manager (Lorenda Volker) and I have referred your detailed email to our county attorney, and he and his team are consulting with the road and bridge and public health folks. Some of the issues you raise have legal implications so they are carefully reviewing your nine issues and will provide us with a response to each of the issues. Once we have that review and analysis, we will provide a response regarding the county's role and jurisdiction in helping to address your concerns. Thank you.
John,
We headed to town today and observed another human waste spillage along our private property and that of the County public ROW. We reported the spillage to Jennifer Ward as per the City’s request, but now they are now seemingly demanding evidence of spills of human waste on the road, which we provided on our return home and have now acknowledged. The two provided pics are just a couple of the spots; there was more than a dozen small marble, to golf ball sized samples. The three or four we ran over were about the size of a softball or fist.
I would like to make it clear in that we don’t actively monitor the road every day and every time we see the spreader trucks drive the route uncovered. This was due to driving to Cheyenne today and running it over (a set of very large chunks of waste and we were required to smell the waste all the way to town and back home. I had to wash the entire set of tires and wheels wells as it sprayed over all the wheel well and was incased in the tire’s treads on all for tires in several spots. This is what we have dealt with for over two years and almost three now.
Scott and Christine Fortenberry
6808 East County Road 92
Carr, CO 80612-9506
(970) 568-6434 / (760) 415-4860
From: John Kefalas <kefa...@co.larimer.co.us>
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2025 17:16
To: Scott Fortenberry <sc410...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: City of Fort Collins
Hello Scott,
The county manager (Lorenda Volker) and I have referred your detailed email to our county attorney, and he and his team are consulting with the road and bridge and public health folks. Some of the issues you raise have legal implications so they are carefully reviewing your nine issues and will provide us with a response to each of the issues. Once we have that review and analysis, we will provide a response regarding the county's role and jurisdiction in helping to address your concerns. Thank you.
| John Kefalas (he/him) County Commissioner, District 1 |
Commissioners' Office 200 W Oak St | 2nd Floor PO Box 1190, Fort Collins, CO 80522-1190 Cell: (720) 254-7598 |
Thank you for this additional information, Scott, that I am sharing with the appropriate county staff.
John,
We had a very minor storm yesterday, but the attached pics do show the run off to the eastern side of the ROW road toward our property only after the City’s modification to the road. We never had this issue until 2016 and the modification to the road. This is a slight example of the rain that floods our driveway each and every time. Heavier moisture completely washes out and needs constant repair.