CloudFoundry marketplace and Heroku Add-On API compatibility

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Julian Fischer

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May 29, 2013, 1:12:24 PM5/29/13
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Hello Everyone,

recently I've been asked whether anynines will offer a market place.
I've heard that Cloud Foundry might have a market place support in the near future,
so the following question came up:
  • Is there going to be a Cloud Foundry market place?
  • How is it going to look like?
  • Is it going to be a central market place supporting different Cloud Foundry targets or
    is going to be a market place component that comes along with a Cloud Foundry setup (ending up having many market places out there)?
  • Are there any design draft documents out there?
  • Is there a rough estimation when it is going to be ready?

For existing service providers the following Question might be of special interest:

  • Is the Cloud Foundry market place going to be compatible to Heroku's Add-On API?

https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/add-on-provider-api

Other PaaS providers such as CloudControl (germany) seem to be:

Being Heroku compatible might motivate a lot of 3rd party service provides to offer
their services on the Cloud Foundry market place as well.

Cheers
Julian

Shannon Coen

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May 31, 2013, 3:57:44 PM5/31/13
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Hello Julian,

The new Cloud Foundry public offering that we are working on now will include a services marketplace. It is not currently open source but like our web console may be available commercially. I can't show you what it looks like but soon you'll be able to try it out for yourself!

If you have a public cloud hosted service and are interested in making your service available to users of Cloud Foundry, please contact Nima Badiey at nba...@gopivotal.com to learn more.

Best,
Shannon Coen

James Watters

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Jun 3, 2013, 3:20:48 AM6/3/13
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Julian,

Timely question, normally we keep this list to non-commercial questions, but I'll jump in here as this one spans both code and commercial topics. Shannon gave a great official answer, but I"ll share a bit more detail.  See #inline 


On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:12:24 AM UTC-7, Julian Fischer wrote:
Hello Everyone,

recently I've been asked whether anynines will offer a market place.
I've heard that Cloud Foundry might have a market place support in the near future,
so the following question came up:
  • Is there going to be a Cloud Foundry market place?
#Yes, it will launch along with our 'V2' service on AWS in June/July 
  • How is it going to look like 
  • Is it going to be a central market place supporting different Cloud Foundry targets or

  • is going to be a market place component that comes along with a Cloud Foundry setup (ending up having many market places out there)?
#Initially it will be primarily for users on the AWS EC2 east region service, but overtime there is a plan for services to have a locality tag so that it can function as the central marketplace for every instance  
  • Are there any design draft documents out there?
  • Is there a rough estimation when it is going to be ready?
#We are actively on-boarding partners now, and should have ~10 key data/monitoring/email/etc partners completed in June with far more to come after 

For existing service providers the following Question might be of special interest:

  • Is the Cloud Foundry market place going to be compatible to Heroku's Add-On API?

https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/add-on-provider-api
#The heroku add-on API was a great first attempt at a PaaS add-on API but is out-dated in two key areas where we have dramatically improved:
  • Usage based billing API 
  • Multi-instance service provisioning (multiple DBs)  
When we investigated the Heroku API it was unable to provide either of these out of the box, and was therefore far too simplistic for our needs. 

Other PaaS providers such as CloudControl (germany) seem to be:

Being Heroku compatible might motivate a lot of 3rd party service provides to offer
their services on the Cloud Foundry market place as well.
#Our strategy is actually more ambitious in terms of attracting an ecosystem. Heroku is a fairly limited (albiet impressively early to market) ecosystem. We are partnering with Appdirect to build a second generation PaaS add-on API and ecosystem. Companies like Rackspace, Verizon, Comcast, and more are using Appdirect as a 3rd party engine for instant account creation, account management SSO, and billing as a service. The contract between a data service and a Cloud Foundry application is still managed by the CF service gateway and Cloud Controller, but we can leverage Appdirect for the commercial portion of the integration. As Shannon mentions Nima runs this for Pivotal and is the primary contact. 

Cheers
Julian
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