Missing vital signs causing file rejection

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Wetzold, Anne

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Jul 27, 2021, 2:25:08 PM7/27/21
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Hi Jay, I have the same problem. Sometimes a case has no temperature or blood pressure documented in the EHR – our files are getting rejected and I’m unable to complete testing. I opened a ticket and had to submit a partial test file for IPRO to look at (not sure how that will help), no answer yet.

 

Regarding Doppler, MAPs, etc., DOH does not want them submitted, only systolic and diastolic.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  

Anne

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I have a couple of questions

 

I have cases with no patient temperatures.  The two I looked at the patient had coded in the ER.  How should we handle this type of case?

 

Also, I have a case where the only blood pressures are doppler BPs, which are not systolic or diastolic.  How should I handle this?

 

Thanks,

 

--Jay

 

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Stacey Rybarczyk

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Jul 28, 2021, 10:30:41 AM7/28/21
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I have the exact same problem right now as well.  I hope someone can shed some light on what to do with those values that don't exist and what we need to do with those patients.  Do we eliminate those patients from the file as it won't go through with no BP, temp or RR, etc... 

-Stacey

Salay, Gene

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Jul 28, 2021, 10:33:01 AM7/28/21
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On the IPRO call this morning we were instructed to exclude those encounters and submit a help desk ticket describing how many encounters were excluded and the circumstances surrounding the exclusion – what fields were missing and why if possible.

 

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Wetzold, Anne

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Jul 28, 2021, 10:33:16 AM7/28/21
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Yes, I was instructed to remove them from the file. See the response from IPRO I pasted below:

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NMatthes (IPRO Helpdesk)

Jul 27, 2021, 15:35 EDT

Hi Anne,
you cannot submit cases with missing mandatory data fields. If these variables have truly no values in the EHR, please back out this case, submit the rest through the portal and document via helpdesk ticket the number of cases you were unable to submit, the variables for which values were unobtainable and an explanation why these variables were unobtainable, e.g. patient expired on arrival.
All the best,
The Sepsis Team

IPRO - Better Healthcare, Realized
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Stacey Rybarczyk

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Jul 28, 2021, 10:55:24 AM7/28/21
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Thank you!!!!

Jay Goldstein

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Jul 28, 2021, 12:08:34 PM7/28/21
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I missed the call this morning.  Was there any discussion about the Pediatric e-sepsis.  I believe the data dictionary was release late last week.

 

--Jay

 

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