Re: long durations between connectEnd and requestStart

[Ryan Sleevi]

+loading-dev & ilya

Doesn't requestStart also factor in any necessary process instantiations? That is, we may have preconnected or prewarmed a socket (thus covering connectStart -> connectEnd), and then either are waiting for a request (in the case of preconnect) or are waiting for the renderer to spawn to handle the request.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Matt Menke <mme...@chromium.org> wrote:

If you can repro locally, an about:net-internals provides a much more complete view of what things look like from the network stack's perspective, and about:tracing provides a lot more details about Chrome's perspective.

I'm not sure how much knowledge there is on this list of the Javascript APIs.  I guess connectEnd is what we call connect_end (Shockingly), and requestStart is what we call send_start (Our request_start is much earlier).  I don't know the cache well enough to know if these timings could reflect cache revalidation or not, but it does sound like a possibility.  The normal (non-cached) order is:  Create stream, generate auth token, init body (Which, for uploads, may involve opening one or more files, and checking their sizes and modification dates), and then we record send start.  Doesn't seem much in there that could account for the delay.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Ben Maurer <ben.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey,

At Facebook we've noticed that there are often long gaps between connectEnd and requestStart in resource timing entries for static resource downloads. I've attached a screenshot of an internal tool that visualizes this. in the highlighted request:

- fetchStart = connectStart = connectEnd = left hand side of blue box

- connectEnd -> requestStart  = 164 ms

- requestStart -> responseStart = the green box to the right of the blue box 

- responseStart -> responseEnd = the tiny blue box to the right of the green box

- responseEnd -> performance.now() on the first line of the JS file = the yellow box

It seems really weird to us that there would ever be a gap between connectEnd and requestStart. There are no redirects for these resources and there appears to be a HTTP2 connection that is open and ready for reuse.

One hypothesis I have is that these requests might actually not be network requests but might be served from the user's cache. As we saw in the previous discussion about spacer images even on a fast laptop with flash a cached request can easily take 100 ms. Some UMA data was shared with us suggesting that the 90th percentile request time for cached items is often over 100ms.

1) Is there any way that we can distinguish cache hit vs miss with resource timing. Ilya suggested that we could once transferSize is included.

2) Would cache hits ever see a long duration between connectEnd and requestStart

3) The UMA for the 90th percentile of cached requests seems really high. Is this to be expected?

-b

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[Ben Maurer]

Yeah, we've noticed that if a request waits for a socket that it will have connectEnd = fetchStart. Since we use HTTP2 this generally seems to happen at the beginning of the page when we are waiting to first open a connection to the server. In the example here, we've already made a number of successful requests to this domain so I don't see why this would happen.

Also, we saw a few cases where there was a gap between requestStart and domainLookupStart -- that would seem to only be explicable by a cache miss causing latency before looking up the DNS to fill the miss

[Matt Menke]

So the events are:

navigationStart (And whatever resource timing equivalent there is)

fetchStart  (our request_start)

connectStart

connectEnd

requestStart (our send_start)

We force those events to be in order, so in the case of socket reuse or preconnect, fetchStart=connectStart=connectEnd.  As long as those times are different, the socket wasn't connected before the request started.  I'm not sure if it's possible for the socket to have been connected before the request made it to the socket layer, in that case, though.

[Ilya Grigorik]

Shooting in the dark.. since the last batch of requests all appear to have the same behavior (long connectEnd -> requestStart), are they fetching resources with different crossorigin policy or some such? Those would require a different socket. Alternatively, socket could have been closed by the server, ...?

Is it possible to reproduce this locally? A chrome trace would go a long way here.

[Ben Maurer]

All of our JS and CSS resources have the same (anonymous) policy. Also, that case would show somebody with a connectStart -> connectEnd which I didn't find in the trace.

I haven't had any luck repro-ing samples like this locally despite the high number of them I see in the wild. I might have to try getting a machine without an SSD

[Eric Roman]

I wonder if the 150ms between connectEnd and requestStart could be Chrome doing a network request to validate a cache entry (as in an if-modified-since GET).

I don't believe that is what the timing api expects, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is what our implementation was measuring (I glanced quickly at that code but couldn't follow the caching case).

Another idea is whether a Chrome extension could be blocking it. The chrome.webRequest API has some hook points at onBeforeRequest and onBeforeSendHeaders. Worth checking if this measurement happens prior to the dispatch for those hooks.

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[Nat Duca]

We have a nascent system that Oystein built called bulk reports that lets us get pii-anonymized traces from real world computers who are inserting into a  speicific histogram bin . E.g., with a bit of poking, we might be able to use bulk reporting to get a trace from real world page loads that have this long delay.

Maybe someone from net/loading side that is poking at this can quickly vc or chat off thread with Oysteine to see if his [awesome] tech can help.

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