Fwd: Notes - Fugu Community sync APAC friendly (Jan 13, 2025)

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Vincent Scheib

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Jan 13, 2025, 7:56:33 PMJan 13
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We discussed high level goals for this forum in 2025, and specific status updates below.


bit.ly/fugu-sync Notes


  • Vincent Scheib: Goals of this forum in 2025?

    • Retrospective: Start, Stop, Continue?

    • Rich W. Continue. Notes before would definitely help. Maybe github repo information for PoC pre-official work.

      • E.g. explainers, simple source code (e.g. matrix multiply examples)

      • Seeking a way to create public artifacts that are presentable to fugu forums.

    • Vince:

      • Continue

        • Continued focus on API development that enables leading edge web applications.

        • Focus on status exchange for projects of shared interest

      • Start:

        • Let’s list projects in the template for check in?

    • Dan:

    • Howard:

      • Continue

        • High-level review of ongoing projects and any open issues

        • Similar cadence

          • Group discussion: 4 week cadence (for EMEA) is good. Keep that up.

            • AI: Ajay: Proposal: “would like to know if there’s ongoing interest in an APAC version of this meeting (at 12 week cadence), or drop it for 2025” 

  • Vincent Scheib: Share notes to https://groups.google.com/u/1/a/chromium.org/g/fugu-dev ?

    • Group agrees to share notes to fugu-dev.

    • ajayra...@google.com notes that there is a Fugu Community & User Safety

  • ajayra...@google.com: Web Install API.

    • Was a request for UX directional review; Ajay opened a bug, Yuchang did review and had questions. 

      • String review needed.

      • Permissions Icon alignment: What are the next steps?

        • Two icons:

          • [allowed]

            • Reusing existing omnibox icon.

            • What is the correct icon to use for Chrome?

          • [disallowed]. 

            • Dev-art used now.

        • Edge uses different icons from Chrome.

          • AI: Ajay will follow up with Chrome UX and Chrome Permissions team as stakeholder.

  • Howard Wolosky- Microsoft status updates…

    • Overall:

      • Some personal changes, will cause some project delays.

    • Web Install

      • 1 new team member; project schedule update pending. Still a priority project.

    • getInstalledRelatedApps

      • 1 new contributor expected, remaining work fairly small, schedule update pending.

    • Scope Extensions

      • Last core CL merged, one follow up request pending ~1 week. 

      • Then v1 should be complete 👏

    • System Accent Color - Windows, Linux, Mac

      • JS and CSS access, code complete for Windows, following up on other platforms, and in launch process.

    • 3P Acquisition Info

      • Allows a PWA to know how/when it was installed. Due to team member changes this project schedule is uncertain.  Still planning on refreshing Explainer and starting TAG review this first half of 2025.

    • Sys Tray support

      • 2025 first half expecting more exploration and explainer.

    • Tabbed PWA

  • Rich Winterton - Performance / User experience per Watt optimizations: Is there much interest from this group on this? 

    • Power - Frequency reduction and core isolation (This is a Web VC app but easily could be AI app) 

  • Memory - Revisit the memory pressure information on how to determine when to release - perhaps look at “user engagement” Is a Web App treated differently? Significant power is being used and utilization with paging and memory management. 

  • UX Measurements: how to measure performance UX when changing core selection, freq, deadlines.

  • Discussion

    • E.g. Compute Pressure needs to know frequency to understand load. (e.g. high load at high frequency is actually a high load)

    • Should consider if other APIs need more awareness or extensions to coordinate well with system resources. 



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