Populate [Default] for some extensible enums in services/media_session [chromium/src : main]

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If you can convince the media session/ARC (which I think uses this too?) folks that this is OK, meh. But as an IPC owner without domain-specific knowledge, it's hard for me to be sure that this is OK.

File services/media_session/public/mojom/media_session.mojom
Line 59, Patchset 4 (Latest): [Default] kNotInPictureInPicture,
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It's not obvious to me this should be the "default" state.

Line 66, Patchset 4 (Latest): [Default] kDeprecatedUnknown,
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Isn't this deprecated? Is that OK?

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    If you can convince the media session/ARC (which I think uses this too?) folks that this is OK, meh. But as an IPC owner without domain-specific knowledge, it's hard for me to be sure that this is OK.

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    The alternative is to add something like `[Default, MinVersion=123] kUnknown` to each of these, which is doable, but requires updating `switch` statements and so on throughout the codebase. It's also unclear to me exactly how `Default` and `MinVersion` interact in terms of addressing the underlying problem.

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    If you can convince the media session/ARC (which I think uses this too?) folks that this is OK, meh. But as an IPC owner without domain-specific knowledge, it's hard for me to be sure that this is OK.

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    The alternative is to add something like `[Default, MinVersion=123] kUnknown` to each of these, which is doable, but requires updating `switch` statements and so on throughout the codebase. It's also unclear to me exactly how `Default` and `MinVersion` interact in terms of addressing the underlying problem.

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    MinVersion is not really meaningful on enums, AFAIK.

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    If you can convince the media session/ARC (which I think uses this too?) folks that this is OK, meh. But as an IPC owner without domain-specific knowledge, it's hard for me to be sure that this is OK.

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    The alternative is to add something like `[Default, MinVersion=123] kUnknown` to each of these, which is doable, but requires updating `switch` statements and so on throughout the codebase. It's also unclear to me exactly how `Default` and `MinVersion` interact in terms of addressing the underlying problem.

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    Ack. According to https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/mojo/public/tools/bindings/README.md#Versioned-Enums:

    For versioned enum definitions, the use of a [MinVersion] attribute is strictly for documentation purposes. It has no impact on the generated code.

    @hide...@chromium.org Do you have any thoughts on the addition of new enum values here, like `[Default] kUnkown` versus trying to reuse existing values as the default?

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    If you can convince the media session/ARC (which I think uses this too?) folks that this is OK, meh. But as an IPC owner without domain-specific knowledge, it's hard for me to be sure that this is OK.

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    The alternative is to add something like `[Default, MinVersion=123] kUnknown` to each of these, which is doable, but requires updating `switch` statements and so on throughout the codebase. It's also unclear to me exactly how `Default` and `MinVersion` interact in terms of addressing the underlying problem.

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    Ack. According to https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/mojo/public/tools/bindings/README.md#Versioned-Enums:

    For versioned enum definitions, the use of a [MinVersion] attribute is strictly for documentation purposes. It has no impact on the generated code.

    @hide...@chromium.org Do you have any thoughts on the addition of new enum values here, like `[Default] kUnkown` versus trying to reuse existing values as the default?

    Hidehiko Abe

    I think adding clear Unknown sounds like more explicit and understandable.
    Though, I think it's better to hear from ARC team explicitly. cc: khmel@.

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    sorry for delayed reply. back from ooo.

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    Daniel Cheng . unresolved

    If you can convince the media session/ARC (which I think uses this too?) folks that this is OK, meh. But as an IPC owner without domain-specific knowledge, it's hard for me to be sure that this is OK.

    Andrew Paseltiner

    The alternative is to add something like `[Default, MinVersion=123] kUnknown` to each of these, which is doable, but requires updating `switch` statements and so on throughout the codebase. It's also unclear to me exactly how `Default` and `MinVersion` interact in terms of addressing the underlying problem.

    Andrew Paseltiner

    Ack. According to https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/mojo/public/tools/bindings/README.md#Versioned-Enums:

    For versioned enum definitions, the use of a [MinVersion] attribute is strictly for documentation purposes. It has no impact on the generated code.

    @hide...@chromium.org Do you have any thoughts on the addition of new enum values here, like `[Default] kUnkown` versus trying to reuse existing values as the default?

    Hidehiko Abe

    I think adding clear Unknown sounds like more explicit and understandable.
    Though, I think it's better to hear from ARC team explicitly. cc: khmel@.

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    I like the Hidehiko's idea with adding Unknown as a default. To me it safer way to do.

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    If you can convince the media session/ARC (which I think uses this too?) folks that this is OK, meh. But as an IPC owner without domain-specific knowledge, it's hard for me to be sure that this is OK.

    Andrew Paseltiner

    The alternative is to add something like `[Default, MinVersion=123] kUnknown` to each of these, which is doable, but requires updating `switch` statements and so on throughout the codebase. It's also unclear to me exactly how `Default` and `MinVersion` interact in terms of addressing the underlying problem.

    Andrew Paseltiner

    Ack. According to https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/mojo/public/tools/bindings/README.md#Versioned-Enums:

    For versioned enum definitions, the use of a [MinVersion] attribute is strictly for documentation purposes. It has no impact on the generated code.

    @hide...@chromium.org Do you have any thoughts on the addition of new enum values here, like `[Default] kUnkown` versus trying to reuse existing values as the default?

    Hidehiko Abe

    I think adding clear Unknown sounds like more explicit and understandable.
    Though, I think it's better to hear from ARC team explicitly. cc: khmel@.

    Yury Khmel

    I like the Hidehiko's idea with adding Unknown as a default. To me it safer way to do.

    Andrew Paseltiner

    I'be added `kUnknown` to all of these, but it's not clear to me that it is safer. While the compiler helps catch `switch` statements that do not handle the new value, it doesn't help with things like `if (value == kFoo) { ... } else { ... }` doing the right thing with the new value. That requires auditing all uses with domain-specific expertise.

    File services/media_session/public/mojom/media_session.mojom
    Line 59, Patchset 4: [Default] kNotInPictureInPicture,
    Daniel Cheng . resolved

    It's not obvious to me this should be the "default" state.

    Andrew Paseltiner

    Acknowledged

    Line 66, Patchset 4: [Default] kDeprecatedUnknown,
    Daniel Cheng . resolved

    Isn't this deprecated? Is that OK?

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    Acknowledged

    Line 174, Patchset 4: [Default] kInactive,
    Daniel Cheng . resolved

    Similarly here.

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    Acknowledged

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    If you can convince the media session/ARC (which I think uses this too?) folks that this is OK, meh. But as an IPC owner without domain-specific knowledge, it's hard for me to be sure that this is OK.

    Andrew Paseltiner

    The alternative is to add something like `[Default, MinVersion=123] kUnknown` to each of these, which is doable, but requires updating `switch` statements and so on throughout the codebase. It's also unclear to me exactly how `Default` and `MinVersion` interact in terms of addressing the underlying problem.

    Andrew Paseltiner

    Ack. According to https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/mojo/public/tools/bindings/README.md#Versioned-Enums:

    For versioned enum definitions, the use of a [MinVersion] attribute is strictly for documentation purposes. It has no impact on the generated code.

    @hide...@chromium.org Do you have any thoughts on the addition of new enum values here, like `[Default] kUnkown` versus trying to reuse existing values as the default?

    Hidehiko Abe

    I think adding clear Unknown sounds like more explicit and understandable.
    Though, I think it's better to hear from ARC team explicitly. cc: khmel@.

    Yury Khmel

    I like the Hidehiko's idea with adding Unknown as a default. To me it safer way to do.

    Andrew Paseltiner

    I'be added `kUnknown` to all of these, but it's not clear to me that it is safer. While the compiler helps catch `switch` statements that do not handle the new value, it doesn't help with things like `if (value == kFoo) { ... } else { ... }` doing the right thing with the new value. That requires auditing all uses with domain-specific expertise.

    Daniel Cheng

    I think any code using comparisons like that was probably wrong anyway?

    File-level comment, Patchset 7 (Latest):
    Daniel Cheng . unresolved

    I'm not sure we shoudl be using `NOTREACHED()` generically to handle the new values; by virtue of being an extensible interface, those notreached are, in fact, reachable.

    File ash/media/media_controller_impl.cc
    Line 128, Patchset 7 (Latest): NOTREACHED();
    Daniel Cheng . unresolved

    This will crash, and we are not supposed to crash on bad inputs from IPC.

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