Finnish keyboard

[kebax]

I can select the finnish language as chromium starts. But the keyboard
layout stays in english. When I try to configure IME there is no
keyboard for finnish(/swedish).

I am using image that I built yesterday when I also synced the tree.

Can I configure the build somehow in order to get desired keyboard
layout?

[Anton Vayvod]

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:58 PM, kebax <k3p...@gmail.com> wrote:

I can select the finnish language as chromium starts.

Do you mean on network selection screen when you boot for the first time? If so, this is UI language, not the input language. You probably will see some text in English anyway if no translation is available at the moment.

 

But the keyboard
layout stays in english. When I try to configure IME there is no
keyboard for finnish(/swedish).

I am using image that I built yesterday when I also synced the tree.

Can I configure the build somehow in order to get desired keyboard
layout?

AFAIK, there're people working on making some of languages available, but I'm not sure about their schedule.

You may try to add support for Finnish yourself, like add xkb and configure it, but I have no clue on how to do it, sorry.

 

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[Satoru Takabayashi]

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Anton Vayvod <ava...@chromium.org> wrote:
>> Can I configure the build somehow in order to get desired keyboard
>> layout?

> AFAIK, there're people working on making some of languages available, but
> I'm not sure about their schedule.

We have just started working on keyboard layout switching.
We expect to get a preliminary version working in the week of April 5th.
Will let you know once we get there.

> You may try to add support for Finnish yourself, like add xkb and
> configure
> it, but I have no clue on how to do it, sorry.

For now, you could try changing the keyboard layout with "setxkbmap"
command, that we've recently added to the image (i.e. old images don't
have the command).

I haven't tried it yet but the following might work:

1. Ctrl-Alt-Tab to open a terminal
2. Run "setxkbmap -layout fi" from the terminal. I'm guessing "fi" would be
the layout name for Finnish keyboard, but I may be wrong.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Satoru

[Satoru Takabayashi]

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Satoru Takabayashi <sat...@chromium.org>
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Anton Vayvod <ava...@chromium.org>
> wrote:

>>> Can I configure the build somehow in order to get desired keyboard
>>> layout?

>> AFAIK, there're people working on making some of languages available, but
>> I'm not sure about their schedule.

> We have just started working on keyboard layout switching.
> We expect to get a preliminary version working in the week of April 5th.
> Will let you know once we get there.


>> You may try to add support for Finnish yourself, like add xkb and
>> configure
>> it, but I have no clue on how to do it, sorry.

> For now, you could try changing the keyboard layout with "setxkbmap"
> command, that we've recently added  to the image (i.e. old images don't
> have
> the command).

> I haven't tried it yet but the following might work:

> 1. Ctrl-Alt-Tab to open a terminal

Correction: I meant Ctrl-Alt-t

[Satoru Takabayashi]

Update on keyboard layout switching.

With the latest build of Chromium OS (you may also need to build Chromium
in chroot), now we should be able to change the keyboard layout from UI,
rather than running setxkbmap command from the terminal.

Note that it's still an early stage in the development and only a small set
of keyboard layouts is supported. To be precise, we only support Finnish
and French at this moment, but we'll be adding more soon.

If you are interested, you could give it a try:

1. Open the tool menu (wrench menu) of the browser
2. Click on "Options"
3. Click on "Customize languages and input..." button in "System" tab
4. Click on "Add" button at the lower left corner
5. Select "Finnish" from the combo box menu
6. Click on "OK"
7. Go back to the browser screen
8. Select "Finnish" from the language selector menu at the upper right
9. Now you should be able to use Finnish keyboard layout. Try hitting the
key on the right of 'P' key. You'll get 'å' (U+00E5).

The step 8 should be unnecessary.We'll be making the user experience
better. Any feedback will be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Satoru

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Satoru Takabayashi <sat...@chromium.org>

[Anton Vayvod]

Hi Satoru,

I've just tried it with a fresh build (synced couple of hours ago).

Here's the list of issues I noticed (sorry if you're tracking these already):

- when I click on language menu button and choose go to options menu item I get to chromium os settings tab of settings page; why not open language settings dialog so user doesn't have to click another button?

- it seems that keyboard layout is remembered for each process separately: that means each renderer process has diffirent input language; I managed to have Finnish input in Omnibox, English in tab with Gmail and Japanese in tab with Google Web Search homepage at the same time.

- when adding new language, combobox (or menu button) with language list is flaky:

  * if I select one language and then open the list and select the same item again, another language is selected (like selected index is incremented with each selection),

  * when I select Others (trying to find Russian) and click on the list again it hangs,

  * sometimes the list is opened but item names are not drawn or empty and I have to reopen the dialog a couple of times to fix this.

And overall, what's about Russian language support? :)

Thanks,

Anton.

[Satoru Takabayashi]

Anton,

Thank you for the feedback!

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Anton Vayvod <ava...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Hi Satoru,
> I've just tried it with a fresh build (synced couple of hours ago).
> Here's the list of issues I noticed (sorry if you're tracking these
> already):
> - when I click on language menu button and choose go to options menu item I
> get to chromium os settings tab of settings page; why not open language
> settings dialog so user doesn't have to click another button?

You are right. It's bad and a known issue. crosbug.com/2137

> - it seems that keyboard layout is remembered for each process separately:
> that means each renderer process has diffirent input language; I managed to
> have Finnish input in Omnibox, English in tab with Gmail and Japanese in tab
> with Google Web Search homepage at the same time.

This is also a known issue.  crosbug.com/2442

> - when adding new language, combobox (or menu button) with language list is
> flaky:
>   * if I select one language and then open the list and select the same item
> again, another language is selected (like selected index is incremented with
> each selection),
>   * when I select Others (trying to find Russian) and click on the list
> again it hangs,
>   * sometimes the list is opened but item names are not drawn or empty and I
> have to reopen the dialog a couple of times to fix this.

Yes. I also noticed it's flaky on a netbook. On Ubuntu, these issues don't seem to occur.

The empty combo box issue was also mentioned in crosbug.com/2420

I'm guessing this is a bug in Views.

> And overall, what's about Russian language support? :)

We'll be adding more soon! I expect to add Russian as well as other European keyboard layouts tomorrow.

Thanks,

Satoru

[Satoru Takabayashi]

Added Russian and some other keyboard layouts.

http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=cros.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c6f3b0d88b2bb01a7cee3edf406b6310c4805ed

Satoru

[mhenriday]

Thanks for adding support for Swedish, Satoru !...

Henri

On Apr 9, 1:37 pm, Satoru Takabayashi <sato...@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Satoru Takabayashi  

> <sato...@chromium.org>wrote:

>
>
>
> > Anton,
> > Thank you for the feedback!

> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Anton Vayvod <avay...@chromium.org>

> > wrote:
> > > Hi Satoru,
> > > I've just tried it with a fresh build (synced couple of hours ago).
> > > Here's the list of issues I noticed (sorry if you're tracking these
> > > already):
> > > - when I click on language menu button and choose go to options menu  
> > item
> > I
> > > get to chromium os settings tab of settings page; why not open language
> > > settings dialog so user doesn't have to click another button?
> > You are right. It's bad and a known issue. crosbug.com/2137

> >   <http://crosbug.com/2137>

> Added Russian and some other keyboard layouts.http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=cros.git;a=commitdiff;h=...

>
> Satoru
>
> > Thanks,
> > Satoru
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anton.

> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Satoru Takabayashi <sato...@chromium.org

> > sato...@chromium.org>

> > >> wrote:
>
> > >>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Satoru Takabayashi <

> > sato...@chromium.org>
> > >>> wrote:
>
> > >>>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Anton Vayvod <avay...@chromium.org>

> > >>>>>> Chromium OS discuss mailing list: chromium-os-disc...@chromium.org