Chrome OS is a pice of shit, pice of garbage

[Mauricio Varela]

Chrome OS is a pice of SHIT... only work with Internet and all is limited... is a completly PICE OF GARBAGE.

[Ian Bloss]

Cool story bro

On Nov 11, 2015 13:18, "Mauricio Varela" <mauricio...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chrome OS is a pice of SHIT... only work with Internet and all is limited... is a completly PICE OF GARBAGE.

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[Marc Tremblay]

It works better than your use of the English language.

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[Mike Frysinger]

sorry, but this forum isn't for rants.  i'd suggest twitter or facebook or a blog where people have to opt in to hearing your nonconstructive thoughts.

if you have an actual question/concern, then this is the place, and feel free to post them.

-mike

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Mauricio Varela <mauricio...@gmail.com> wrote:

Chrome OS is a pice of SHIT... only work with Internet and all is limited... is a completly PICE OF GARBAGE.

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[Cameron Chisholm]

Id say its quite the contrary, throw it into developer mode and use the full capabilities of linux. Its designed for just web use but it has the ability to do anything a regular linux distrobution can do. With some effort, you can install Wine and use Windows applications. I can even play Halo 2 on mine.

[Mike M.]

I cannot agree more.  Having spent three fruitless days trying to get my Samsung Chrome Notebook  to connect to a Canon Cloud printer (perfectly possible according to the Samsung website) I have already used up all the expletives I can think of.   I understand your frustration completely Mauricio.  As a tool for interrogating the web it's very good.  For anything else best avoided.  The Samsung Support helpline was useless.  All they did after transferring me three times and keeping me waiting, was to refer me to  Canon.  Seriously crap service!          

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 6:18:20 PM UTC, Mauricio Varela wrote:

Chrome OS is a pice of SHIT... only work with Internet and all is limited... is a completly PICE OF GARBAGE.

[W.G.]

Please lock this thread.

[Matt Cook]

:-(

I've been following this board for a while for dev reason, and this thread is one of my favorites (a close second). 

Seriously though, while the phrasing is extremely poor both complaints do appear to be addressing a valid concern: Chrome OS and related devices are increasingly being adopted by and marketed to "everyday users" who are accustomed not linux, or the idea of a "thin client" but to OSX and Windows. 

Frustrations with not being able to simply "install a program" or "work when it's offline" indicates to me the base premise and proper use case is not being clearly communicated and needs to be made more clear for less savvy users. Perhaps more of a marketing concern than a responsibility of the Chromium OS team, but certainly seems worth discussing.

On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 11:01:58 AM UTC-6, W.G. wrote:

Please lock this thread.

[Ian Bloss]

I don't think either of these users have valid concerns as the origin of this thread was most likely a teenager who is mad because his school chromebook is policy controlled and can't install webstore games. The other complaint is about not knowing how to read the manual on is his canon printer to properly configure it to work with cloud print, or not checking the compatibility list 

https://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/printers.html#info-canon

Instead assumes the issue must be with the chromebook and complains to Samsung to support a Canon product, instead of contacting Canon to confirm that cloud print is configured properly. 

How ever I will agree about the marketing because they make them look like they can do everything my desktop computer can do instead of web based applications with limited native.

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[Josh N]

Um, have you seen a Windows PC lately?

[joel huebner]

DELETE, DELETE, DELETE, DELETE... IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE.... did I push the correct button?   We don't need this here!  Please remove this thread! 

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-6, Mauricio Varela wrote:

[jlh]

Use Google Cloud Print... it works...so does the HP tool, but I only have HP Printers... but Canon is on the "cloud list".. Google Cloud Print is your best bet... good luck!

JLH

[Tʜᴇ Aᴀʀᴏɴᴀᴛᴏʀ]

I definitely feel like Chrome/Chromium OS lags behind in functionality; for a Chromebook (which is essentially just a Chrome browser) you pay about $200 as opposed to Chrome on a PC. That is, you shouldn't buy a Chromebook as a secondary computer and there's not really any reason to prefer Chrome/Chromium OS over Mac OS X or Windows. (Ok maybe Mac OS X.) BUT, I would not say it was a "pice" of garbage; the concept is pretty nice and given some more time, it might catch up to some of the other operating systems out there. Also, bad customer service doesn't mean Chrome OS is bad. I agree very much with Ian Bloss. This isn't a place for useless complaints, I suggest if you want improvements to be made you stop saying Chrome OS is a "pice" of shit. 

- Aaron

[Josh N]

there's not really any reason to prefer Chrome/Chromium OS over Mac OS X or Windows

There are HEAPS of reasons to prefer ChromeOS over Windows/OS X. ChromeOS is virus-proof, easy and quick to setup, gets automatic updates, has great battery life, its fast and STAYS FAST, just to mention a few. Sure, it's a simple and easy to use OS, and it won't suit power users, but IT IS suitable to 80% of computer users.

Windows, on the other hand, is riddled with viruses and malware, takes FOREVER to setup, updates are slow and large, it guzzles battery on most PCs, it slows down to a crawl after time, and is not to mention unreliable.

[Tʜᴇ Aᴀʀᴏɴᴀᴛᴏʀ]

I guess this is just a matter of opinion :|

Now what was the point of this thread again? 

[Josh N]

You're right. Opinion is everything when it comes to computers, that's why there are so many choices :)

[Marko Gavrilovič]

Uh....no os is virus proof....

[Selden Deemer]

Marko : There is no known hack of a Chromebook, and Google recently doubled their hack a Chromebook bounty to $100,000: Google doubles its bounty for a Chromebook hack to $100,000.

Let us know if you manage to win the $100,000 reward....

[Mike]

This thread is great. The amount of times I had to troubleshoot someone's Chromebook after setting it up? Zero. The amount of times I had to fix issues on Windows PCs? Countless. Have an issue that is causing your Chromebook to act up? Boom 3 buttons and it's factory reset...7 second boot up time? 8 hour battery life? 

[Tyler Thompson]

You know what? Linux is fantastic, Mac OS X is fantastic, so is Windows, and so is Chrome OS.  Every operating system has it's uses; Linux is pretty good for, well, everything but games, Mac OS X is great for photo/video editing, Windows is great for games, and Chrome OS is great for what most people do: e-mail, Facebook, documents, and just surfing the web.  You shouldn't call an OS a "pice of shit" just because it doesn't suit you.  Have an open mind; Just because it doesn't do exactly what you want it to do, doesn't mean you should automatically call it a "pice of shit."

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 1:18:20 PM UTC-5, Mauricio Varela wrote:

[marko]

Except the one where they have all your data, and have been collecting it for years, mining it and doing o god knows what with it

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[Mike Frysinger]

once again, if you have nothing constructive to add here, then please refrain from posting.  this isn't a list to air tin foil hat conspiracies.

-mike

[Haydens Unzumaki]

ohhh yea it can have a great battery life and have like zero problems because it doesnt have alot of applications to make it do so. but that still doesnt excuse the fact that its a internet based computer. Everyone has their opinions but one that is most common, "macOS, every single one thats 10.x.x higher and mostly used on damn near every mac, and Windows OS, vista and higher because xp is crap everyone knows that, is better than chrome os hands down. manufacturing is better because most come with more storage obviously. 16 gigabytes of storage and 2 of ram... thats sounds like a tablet to me. or my old phone that i broke the screen to. But either way you can rant and rave all day, and call on the sermons of jesus if you have to and fail. Because the proof is there, chromeOS is for school only and windows/mac is for all purposes. Its kind of like saying strawberry ice cream is better than chocolate ice cream, or the first iphone is better than the newest iphone. You know its not true so you lie sooo hard that you end up lying to yourself.

[Mike Frysinger]

i would take strawberry ice cream over chocolate ice cream any day of the week.  in fact, it's dinner time, and i think i'm going to go some right now.

QED: CrOS is superior.

-mike

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[anonymous anonymous]

I can run Linux inside my chromeos and is just as functional as your Hillary Clinton macOS 

-polite as usual,

Brokep 

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[Michael Mol]

On Thursday, December 01, 2016 03:39:37 PM Haydens Unzumaki wrote:
> ohhh yea it can have a great battery life and have like zero problems
> because it doesnt have alot of applications to make it do so.

I have close to a dozen applications on my unmodified (i.e. no crouton or
similar) Chromebook, including applications that operate offline. Stellar
battery life, even so.

> but that still doesnt excuse the fact that its a internet based computer.

It uses a remote service for single sign-on and settings synchronization. Both
of those get cached locally, so you don't *need* to be on the Internet to log
in if you've done it recently.

I've used my Chromebook for offline word processing, book reading, and circuit
design. Nothing about the Chromebook forces you to have an internet connection
while you use it, and there plenty of applications--many more than I use--that
can operate entirely offline.

> Everyone has their opinions but one that is most common, "macOS, every
> single one thats 10.x.x higher and mostly used on damn near every mac, and
> Windows OS, vista and higher because xp is crap everyone knows that, is
> better than chrome os hands down.

The most common opinion among whom? The most common thing I hear from people
who use computers extensively is, "it'd be nice, but I have these applications
I need, so I can't switch away from (insert platform here)." The most common
opinion among everyone else? "Can I get my email? Great!"

> manufacturing is better because most come with more storage obviously.

There's a difference between manufacture and design. Chromebooks are designed
with less RAM and disk space because they haven't *needed* more. The more RAM
you have, the more power you expend refreshing it. The more disk you have, the
more power you spend spinning it up (spinning rust), or the more expensive it
is (SSD).

Meanwhile, my $200 Chromebook has been far more durable than my $1k Yoga, or
my $500 Galaxy S5. And that's with my toddlers getting their hands on it from
time to time.

> 16 gigabytes of storage and 2 of ram... thats sounds like a tablet to me.

That shouldn't be surprising. Both are designed to be lightweight, efficient and
mobile. Is there something wrong with tablets? I'm rather looking forward to
convertible Chromebooks that can run Android apps, myself; I have a Lenovo
Yoga and the experience under either Linux or Windows isn't half as good as
any of my Android devices are--once I plug in a proper keyboard and mouse, in
any case. (And as long as I ignore lackluster attention to keyboard shortcuts
by application developers.)

> or my old phone that i broke the screen to.

I'm sorry you broke your phone, but in what way is that relevant?

> But either way you can rant and rave all day,

Heh. I thought that's what you were doing.

> and call on the sermons of jesus if you have to and fail. Because the proof
> is there, chromeOS is for school only and windows/mac is for all purposes.

Huh. My Chromebook is a great device around the house; my wife and I can use
it interchangeably without concern for synchronizing data to our PCs. It makes
a handy conduit for referencing rulebooks during tabletop RPGs. I worked on
some articles offline while on a plane a few weeks ago. (Speaking of which, the
battery life is excellent for travel, but get a small-screen Chromebook if you
want it to fit between you and the reclining seat in front of you.)

Macs and Windows are fine for some of these purposes, but when my wife and I
share a more conventional laptop, we have to keep interrupting each other to
get access to the data we left on there.

Now, perhaps Chromebooks aren't general-purpose enough for your use cases, but
there's a lot of engineering history that suggests that when you use a tool

> Its kind of like saying strawberry ice cream is better than chocolate ice
> cream,

So, it's like stating a preference?

> or the first iphone is better than the newest iphone.

An oddly specific comparison. But given used iPhones are cheaper than new
iPhones, it's trivial to make the argument that an older one is better than a
newer one; I know a lot of very poor people who use second-hand and third-hand
iPhones because it's what they can afford.

How does that relate to Chromebooks? Chromebooks are *cheap*.

The ideal laptop for me, feature wise, looks to be about $1800 right now. It's
an i7 gamer laptop with a 13" screen, decent GPU, and a 6hr battery life. If I
could have that, I'd put Gentoo on it in a heartbeat.

But I don't have $1800 to spend on a laptop.

> You know its not true so you lie sooo hard that you
> end up lying to yourself.

You treat preference and use case as though yours are the only ones that
matter. I'm sorry, but you don't have a monopoly on objective reality.

(I'm assuming you're trolling, so I'm leaving this as my only response to
you...)

(Also, you should check out a great Chrome extension called Grammarly. I find
it tightens my writing up significantly, and it looks like you could derive
benefit from it.)

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[Selden Deemer]

Michael : Thank you for taking the time to write such a cogent response to a troll. 

I've been using Macs since 1984, and although I still have a desktop iMac, Chromebooks get 99% of my time, mainly because they do almost everything I need to do, and I find using a Chromebook to be so much more efficient. 

Thanks also for the pointer to the Grammarly extension.