Bookmarks Star Color
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Capy
Jan 21, 2012, 11:32:41 PM1/21/12
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I suggest making the bookmarks star filled-in grey instead of yellow
with grey outline (when navigating to a bookmarked page). The icon
for an unbookmarked page would be unchanged. This design would remove
color from the interface and make it more uniform. Also, I think the
yellow color is characteristic of old info bubbles.
with grey outline (when navigating to a bookmarked page). The icon
for an unbookmarked page would be unchanged. This design would remove
color from the interface and make it more uniform. Also, I think the
yellow color is characteristic of old info bubbles.
krtulmay
Jan 22, 2012, 12:20:57 AM1/22/12
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And what about the green color for the HTTPS lock or green shading for
EV sites? And the beige/yellow color for the bookmark folders on the
bookmarks bar? And the color highlights for close tab, minimize,
maximize, and close window? Want to grayscale those too?
Heck, Chrome might as well grayscale the favicons it shows in the
tabs, and adopt the blue-shaded logo as the real one... and grayscaled
of course! And I'll bet Capy will consider all these as serious
ideas!
I'm sure all the UI designers in the world will be extremely grateful
to your suggestions that color in UI is unnecessary!
EV sites? And the beige/yellow color for the bookmark folders on the
bookmarks bar? And the color highlights for close tab, minimize,
maximize, and close window? Want to grayscale those too?
Heck, Chrome might as well grayscale the favicons it shows in the
tabs, and adopt the blue-shaded logo as the real one... and grayscaled
of course! And I'll bet Capy will consider all these as serious
ideas!
I'm sure all the UI designers in the world will be extremely grateful
to your suggestions that color in UI is unnecessary!
Capy
Jan 22, 2012, 1:16:05 AM1/22/12
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I think color should be used selectively, not completely removed from
the interface. Also, I do not presume to have much experience in UX
design. I only wanted to offer my opinion and see what others think.
I only think we should differentiate "serious" ideas from non-serious
ones when the poster obviously no intention on improving the
experience.
In response to the previous comment:
(1) The green shading in HTTPS lock and EV sites is important because
it denotes security. Also, the green is used sparingly (mostly in
text color).
(2) Favicon color is important because it is easily identifies a site.
Grayscaling them would reduce browsing speed. I consider folders
parallel to bookmarks, so they should retain color. Also, the beige
color is parallel to Windows folders.
(3) Close tab only gains color with hover, and red is synonymous with
close.
(4) Minimize, Maximize, and Close Window buttons are Windows
specific. Changing these would make Chrome seem disconnected and less
official. Although I have seen better designs (ex: Windows 8 Aero
Lite), it is important that Chrome integrates with the platform it is
on.
(5) The Chrome logo's colors originate from Google's colors, so they
should remain the same. I do think the white ring could be improved
though.
the interface. Also, I do not presume to have much experience in UX
design. I only wanted to offer my opinion and see what others think.
I only think we should differentiate "serious" ideas from non-serious
ones when the poster obviously no intention on improving the
experience.
In response to the previous comment:
(1) The green shading in HTTPS lock and EV sites is important because
it denotes security. Also, the green is used sparingly (mostly in
text color).
(2) Favicon color is important because it is easily identifies a site.
Grayscaling them would reduce browsing speed. I consider folders
parallel to bookmarks, so they should retain color. Also, the beige
color is parallel to Windows folders.
(3) Close tab only gains color with hover, and red is synonymous with
close.
(4) Minimize, Maximize, and Close Window buttons are Windows
specific. Changing these would make Chrome seem disconnected and less
official. Although I have seen better designs (ex: Windows 8 Aero
Lite), it is important that Chrome integrates with the platform it is
on.
(5) The Chrome logo's colors originate from Google's colors, so they
should remain the same. I do think the white ring could be improved
though.
Tibor
Jan 22, 2012, 5:33:01 PM1/22/12
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I bet most of the people like colours.
Yellow star is more visible than grey star.
Tooltip background is yellow in a colour scheme of an operating
system. So what?
Same colour scheme of same operating system has grey inactive title
bars and menus. Does this mean that grey is banned too?
And tooltip text is blue, so blue is out too. Window/menu text is
black, let's eliminate that too.
Window background is white, and so on, are there any colours left what
are not specific to something somewhere?
Set yourself a grey colour scheme if you are so much against colours.
Min/max/restore buttons of chrome have their own colour (and shape and
size) not what Windows uses, Chrome is only partially using Windows
colour scheme and theme.
I would like to see exactly the opposite from Google in their all
applications: using more contrasts.
The reason is that sometimes is very hard to find controls/menus
because is everything is greyscale (i.e. in Gmail's default colour
scheme the checkboxes), and this is especially true for older people
or anyone with less good sight.
My parents and parents in law although in their 50's have difficulties
using Gmail for this reason.
Colours are good and should be used more and better.
There used to be good designers at Google, is it possible that all of
them left?
UI should be tested on average screens too, if something looks good on
a 22" professional screen doesn't necessarly mean that it will look
good on the average user's 10-15" average/low quality screens,
especially on CRT ones.
Yellow star is more visible than grey star.
Tooltip background is yellow in a colour scheme of an operating
system. So what?
Same colour scheme of same operating system has grey inactive title
bars and menus. Does this mean that grey is banned too?
And tooltip text is blue, so blue is out too. Window/menu text is
black, let's eliminate that too.
Window background is white, and so on, are there any colours left what
are not specific to something somewhere?
Set yourself a grey colour scheme if you are so much against colours.
Min/max/restore buttons of chrome have their own colour (and shape and
size) not what Windows uses, Chrome is only partially using Windows
colour scheme and theme.
I would like to see exactly the opposite from Google in their all
applications: using more contrasts.
The reason is that sometimes is very hard to find controls/menus
because is everything is greyscale (i.e. in Gmail's default colour
scheme the checkboxes), and this is especially true for older people
or anyone with less good sight.
My parents and parents in law although in their 50's have difficulties
using Gmail for this reason.
Colours are good and should be used more and better.
There used to be good designers at Google, is it possible that all of
them left?
UI should be tested on average screens too, if something looks good on
a 22" professional screen doesn't necessarly mean that it will look
good on the average user's 10-15" average/low quality screens,
especially on CRT ones.
Capy
Jan 22, 2012, 7:12:44 PM1/22/12
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I agree that colors are liked and important. They offer contrast,
command differentiation, and sometimes a strong aesthetic. I agree
that interfaces should be tested on a variety of screen sizes and
resolutions. I also agree that we should not ban colors because they
were used on old interfaces. However, I do not like that shade of
yellow in most interfaces.
Chrome does have the same min/max, close, and restore buttons on
Windows Vista and 7. Although the buttons could look slightly better
(as in Windows 8 Aero Lite), I like the parallelism. I think Chrome
does not use XP's theme because of the size of the buttons.
The reasons I would like the bookmarks star from yellow to grey are:
(1) Visibility of the star is not extremely important. A filled-in
star simply denotes that a bookmark already exists.
(2) A grey star in the omnibox would mirror the favicon from Chrome's
bookmark page.
(3) Every other main Chrome button is grey-scaled.
(4) Although colored interface buttons offer some contrast, the
aesthetic is not strong. There is a reason Chrome and the current
Firefox do not have Firefox's old colored style:
http://www.eudownloads.com/app/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/mozilla_firefox_3_0_alpha-561421.png
command differentiation, and sometimes a strong aesthetic. I agree
that interfaces should be tested on a variety of screen sizes and
resolutions. I also agree that we should not ban colors because they
were used on old interfaces. However, I do not like that shade of
yellow in most interfaces.
Chrome does have the same min/max, close, and restore buttons on
Windows Vista and 7. Although the buttons could look slightly better
(as in Windows 8 Aero Lite), I like the parallelism. I think Chrome
does not use XP's theme because of the size of the buttons.
The reasons I would like the bookmarks star from yellow to grey are:
(1) Visibility of the star is not extremely important. A filled-in
star simply denotes that a bookmark already exists.
(2) A grey star in the omnibox would mirror the favicon from Chrome's
bookmark page.
(3) Every other main Chrome button is grey-scaled.
(4) Although colored interface buttons offer some contrast, the
aesthetic is not strong. There is a reason Chrome and the current
Firefox do not have Firefox's old colored style:
http://www.eudownloads.com/app/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/mozilla_firefox_3_0_alpha-561421.png
Tibor
Jan 23, 2012, 3:44:44 AM1/23/12
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> Chrome does have the same min/max, close, and restore buttons on Windows Vista and 7.
If I were you I would't bet on this.
See screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/resizeicons.png/
The blue icons on top belong to Chrome, the grey ones below to
Internet Explorer (and any other standard window) on Windows 7.
Chrome resize buttons may look similar to standard Windows resize
buttons on _some_ of Windows 7 themes.
3) Except the switch profile button in top left corner.
Extensions are not Chrome buttons, this is an other reason to make
them different.
And are not only buttons but the user interface of extensions and as
such are supposed to communicate information to the user.
On Jan 23, 1:12 am, Capy <codyku...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree that colors are liked and important. They offer contrast,
> command differentiation, and sometimes a strong aesthetic. I agree
> that interfaces should be tested on a variety of screen sizes and
> resolutions. I also agree that we should not ban colors because they
> were used on old interfaces. However, I do not like that shade of
> yellow in most interfaces.
>
> Chrome does have the same min/max, close, and restore buttons on
> Windows Vista and 7. Although the buttons could look slightly better
> (as in Windows 8 Aero Lite), I like the parallelism. I think Chrome
> does not use XP's theme because of the size of the buttons.
>
> The reasons I would like the bookmarks star from yellow to grey are:
> (1) Visibility of the star is not extremely important. A filled-in
> star simply denotes that a bookmark already exists.
> (2) A grey star in the omnibox would mirror the favicon from Chrome's
> bookmark page.
> (3) Every other main Chrome button is grey-scaled.
> (4) Although colored interface buttons offer some contrast, the
> aesthetic is not strong. There is a reason Chrome and the current
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Capy
Jan 23, 2012, 11:02:12 AM1/23/12
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@ Tibor
You make good points about the colored extension icons, so I now agree
the extension icons should retain their color. However, I still think
the bookmarks star should be grey for the following two reasons:
(1) Chrome omnibox bookmarks star would be the same as the favicon
from the bookmarks manager.
(2) The bookmarks star is a default chrome button (not part of
extension section). I think it is important to separate the two
sections.
What do you think?
You make good points about the colored extension icons, so I now agree
the extension icons should retain their color. However, I still think
the bookmarks star should be grey for the following two reasons:
(1) Chrome omnibox bookmarks star would be the same as the favicon
from the bookmarks manager.
(2) The bookmarks star is a default chrome button (not part of
extension section). I think it is important to separate the two
sections.
What do you think?
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