Boycott Google Chrome

[wrox osbourne]

As a Computer Science student and expert Web Developer, I looked into
what Google is doing with their Chrome browser.

It's a nightmare for all developers and programmers across the Free
Internet and world.

Google's Chrome and its very design is breaking all known and stable
internet standards (like JavaScript) for corporate/control reasons.

The goals and vision as stated by Google are not to work with W3C,
Mozilla, Microsoft, etc. on standards, but to rewrite the WWW.

With wild claims of a Google platform for "rich interactive
applications" that are non-existent or simple/dumb, it's questionable.

Perhaps a corporate power grab, masked in the language of "open
source" and media hype, Google's Chrome must be boycotted.

Google is effectively building a G-Browser for a "Google WWW", not the
stable Free Internet we all share.

In the end, no smart user will trust a Google "Cloud" server with
their privacy or passwords.

[Joseph Ponnoly]

Can you be more specific on the flaws you have found in Google Chrome?

I am particularly interested in  security and privacy protection by the browser.

How does Chrome compare with other browsers IE, Firefox, Safari, Opera.....?

Joseph Ponnoly 

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[AJ Rahim]

Google is not ending the "Free Web" as you know it they are simply
evolving what was. In order for the internet to become a truly viable
source of income for a business it needs to show some form of stable
profit. Many companies only rely on advertising revenue and with ad
block this is quickly becoming useless.

This is why many news websites are falling back on the idea of a
subscription based model. If anything Google is actually preventing
the web from going backwards.

Of course no one is forcing you to use Google Chrome that is the
beauty of the "Free Internet" you can choose another browser! :)

[Jeffrey Kesselman]

I smell a troll under that thar bridge.

Goggle and Apple are actually MAJOR players in the HTML5 standards definition.

Troll-Fail

JK

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[Mohamed Mansour]

Well, I thought we are following HTML5 standards, like every other major browser (IE8, FF4, Opera10, and Safari 4) ... If you by any chance find something that we are not following or doing incorrectly, please let us know http://crbug.com/new

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[AJ Rahim]

This is where I believe Google breaks tradition with it's progress on Google Chrome Apps and the App Store. Allowing businesses to sell their applications or portions of there website it will allow businesses/developers to profit with actual revenue instead of advertising revenue.

Invoicing is changing constantly http://invoicemachine.com/home imagine something like this being built into the Chrome App Store or even Quickbooks Online. 

Web development needs to progress further than just information on a page it needs to replicate what programs are to the desktop. Chrome OS builds on this idea by allowing you to access the web quickly and use these applications. All your information is stored on the cloud this will remove the need for DRM.

All of your applications will be stored on the cloud so you don't have to repurchase the same program again and again!

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Kuntry Klippers <ris...@woh.rr.com> wrote:

I honestly cant see how Google Chrome is going to help any business on the web become viable when you cant even print an invoice from the browser. You cant even get a response from the developers at all over basic fundamental functionality issues. Just on that alone, why would you want to continue to use the browser if you were a business? Google chrome is nothing more than a toy. If you want to actually be PRODUCTIVE via ecommerce, you have to use a different browser.

[Joseph Ponnoly]

Which other browser provides this, without plug-ins?

The browser is just a gateway to the web application server to enable user interactions.

The web browser function is almost similar to the  Operating System and can be considered as part of the OS, acting as a middleware between the system, web server and the application.

Joseph Ponnoly  

 

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Kuntry Klippers <ris...@woh.rr.com> wrote:

I honestly cant see how Google Chrome is going to help any business on the web become viable when you cant even print an invoice from the browser. You cant even get a response from the developers at all over basic fundamental functionality issues. Just on that alone, why would you want to continue to use the browser if you were a business? Google chrome is nothing more than a toy. If you want to actually be PRODUCTIVE via ecommerce, you have to use a different browser.

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[Aaron Toponce]

... or your paranoid, ie-fanboy, uninformed professor gave you that
screwed up, hilarious and hypocritical view. Either way, I'm going to
have to remember "Google WWW". That's awesome. Thanks for the laugh.

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[Wil©]

You've said that Google's goals and visions are "not to work with W3C
internet standards". But neither does IE unless Microsoft changed this
rather recently. As a web developer I ran into the problem of IE not
following the standards long ago and often since. In an attempt to
take control of the browser market they disallow the use of certain
standard code and force developers to use 'behaviors' which won't work
in other browsers to achieve things that standard code should while at
the same time allow other things that are not a part of standard code
but just look cool (CSS control of scroll bar color).
The point of course is that all browsers and all software have their
own way of doing things and for their own reasons and I think the
issues you have raised regarding what Google has been up to aren't as
bad as what Microsoft has done and still does. I also don't find it to
be a reason to boycott arguably the fastest browser on the market
today.

[Stephen]

Don't feed the troll. 

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[Chad Rhyner]

Hello Wrox,

Thank you for the feedback. It is sometimes interesting to hear a
different perspective on ideas, and I always welcome a good
discussion.

I hear your concerns about Web Security. This is very important, and
it is taken very seriously at the Google Chrome project.
The utmost care is taken to ensure safe web standards. In fact, if
you can find a security vulnerability, there might be a cash
reward involved from Google!

There is something to remember about this project. This project will
help synchronize the same data that you already
have on your Google account: no more, no less. If you don't post your
calendar appointments in Google Calendar, it won't
be in the cloud. If you don't put privacy information in your E-mail,
it will not be in the cloud.

There are many benefits to cloud computing. There has also been some
interesting research into ways to hack cloud computing.
As security improves, hacking skills improve. This is an ongoing
process, and security is a hot field right now. If you are interested
in computer security, make sure you take an Information Security
course during your studies, if you have not already. This is a hot
field, and it is only getting hotter.

You are talking about standards, and there is no issue with standards
that I know of. So, I would like to hear what you feel
is being broken by the standards. You say that you are an expert Web
Developer. This tells me that you probably were having
problems in the past rendering a page in Google Chrome. No software
is perfect; all software contains bugs. The important point is
that you fix the known bugs quickly. Following standards is important
to do. The editor of the HTML5 specification is Ian Hickson.
Ian Hickson who works at Google so I do think that Google takes
standards seriously; otherwise, I don't think that they would have
hired him
to work on the specification. If you had a problem with getting a
proper layout using some CSS or HTML, could you write up a bug and
explain what happened,
and why? This will help correct any problems that you have
encountered, and make Google Chrome a better browser for you.

When you question the term of rich interactive applications (RIA)s, I
think that you have maybe expected something more than what you may
have already seen. RIAs is being defined right now, and there is no
good definition of what it means. What does Web 2.0 mean? LOL. It's
a
marketing term, and as I have learned, I don't trust marketing! As
Google Chrome is being written, I think that this means different
things to
different people. In my case, I believe that an example of an RIAs
are capable of doing something that a good desktop application could
do.

I like the example of some work in progress is being done by
mugtug.com, an online photo editing application. They have a demo
that uses
HTML & Javascript which you can find here: http://mugtug.com/darkroom/
To show you the power of the browser, I would like to show you
Chrome Experiments, which is a bunch of experiments showing off the
speed of the Javascript engine (V8) by going to http://www.chromeexperiments.com/.

Let your imagination go wild, and you will see a lot of potential with
the browser.

Now we get onto the fact you said about "corporate control", which is
a touchy subject with everyone, and for good reasons. It is true that
Google does make its money on advertising. That is their revenue
model: most of the money made comes from advertising. But, look at
it
another way, if they did not use advertising, then to pay their bills,
they must then find another source of revenue.

There are many ways that they can come up with revenue, but I will
take the free searches with a little advertising on the side. Let the
businesses pay the businesses for advertising, and let me get my
searches, software, Google Docs, G-mail for free.