Why Chrome rapes HDD? How to RAM only?

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Рома Чупин

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Mar 6, 2014, 7:46:14 AM3/6/14
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My browsing is slow because chrome using HDD – looks like it's downloading content to HDD and from there to RAM to show me? But i don't remember that i've asked chrome for it? Because it's obviously slow way so it's wrong. And can't find the option to disable all cashes, found cookies setting only. And in google I only found that i can press F12→Options Icon→"Disable cache (while DevTools is open)" but can't see any difference after it.
Soon i'll have 8GB RAM and SSD so need to know if there a ways to NOT use SSD for any cashes (except history and cookies) because i don't need it and don't want to spend ssd life for it.

Shezan Baig

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On Mar 6, 2014 2:52 PM, "Рома Чупин" <edddd...@gmail.com> wrote:
My browsing is slow because chrome using HDD – looks like it's downloading content to HDD and from there to RAM to show me? But i don't remember that i've asked chrome for it? Because it's obviously slow way so it's wrong. And can't find the option to disable all cashes, found cookies setting only. And in google I only found that i can press F12→Options Icon→"Disable cache (while DevTools is open)" but can't see any difference after it.
Soon i'll have 8GB RAM and SSD so need to know if there a ways to NOT use SSD for any cashes (except history and cookies) because i don't need it and don't want to spend ssd life for it.

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Рома Чупин

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Mar 6, 2014, 11:31:24 PM3/6/14
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1.flash memory have limited write cycles, that's it.
2.1)anyway it's limited, and there a testing of 240gb drives, not 32-64gb which is enought for os.2)it's not about "much wearing", it's about wearing existence itself while i don't need cashes with 8GB RAM.
3.i also don't like to use ssd because it's obviously much slower than RAM – so looking the ways to use RAM only (except cookies&hystory).

пятница, 7 марта 2014 г., 0:39:09 UTC+4 пользователь Jonathan Garbee написал:
1.Do you have any data to back up the statement that your SSD's life span will be hindered by Chrome's writing to it? 
2.It appears from an endurance test that SSD's have greater longevity then people originally gave them theoretically. I doubt all the writing most people would do would get close to what this test puts upon these drives daily.
3.From what I understand Chrome has quite a few cache layers. You can really turn any of them off without affecting the overall performance of the browser in possibly known ways. I'd recommend trying to see how much data is actually being written to the caches before making the judgement that they are hurting your SSD, because that most likely isn't the case.

Рома Чупин

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Mar 6, 2014, 11:33:13 PM3/6/14
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but i want to save things – such as a history, cookies.

пятница, 7 марта 2014 г., 5:21:22 UTC+4 пользователь Shezan Baig написал:

Рома Чупин

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Mar 7, 2014, 12:12:05 PM3/7/14
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lol, said who?
for me not acceptable is chrome loading my HDD when i DON'T NEED IT and it's prevents comfort speed.

пятница, 7 марта 2014 г., 14:37:23 UTC+4 пользователь Chris Bentzel написал:
Please do not use phrases such as this thread's subject line when
posting to chromium-discuss. It is not acceptable.

Рома Чупин

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Mar 7, 2014, 12:15:19 PM3/7/14
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so how to RAM only? i don't need the cashes which prevents comfort speed.


пятница, 7 марта 2014 г., 0:39:09 UTC+4 пользователь Jonathan Garbee написал:
Do you have any data to back up the statement that your SSD's life span will be hindered by Chrome's writing to it? It appears from an endurance test that SSD's have greater longevity then people originally gave them theoretically. I doubt all the writing most people would do would get close to what this test puts upon these drives daily.

From what I understand Chrome has quite a few cache layers. You can really turn any of them off without affecting the overall performance of the browser in possibly known ways. I'd recommend trying to see how much data is actually being written to the caches before making the judgement that they are hurting your SSD, because that most likely isn't the case.

-Garbee


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Рома Чупин <edddd...@gmail.com> wrote:
My browsing is slow because chrome using HDD – looks like it's downloading content to HDD and from there to RAM to show me? But i don't remember that i've asked chrome for it? Because it's obviously slow way so it's wrong. And can't find the option to disable all cashes, found cookies setting only. And in google I only found that i can press F12→Options Icon→"Disable cache (while DevTools is open)" but can't see any difference after it.
Soon i'll have 8GB RAM and SSD so need to know if there a ways to NOT use SSD for any cashes (except history and cookies) because i don't need it and don't want to spend ssd life for it.

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Рома Чупин

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Mar 8, 2014, 2:39:59 AM3/8/14
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he didn't try to help me.
in my language it's ok to use translation of this word figuratively like "very big loading" even talking with parents so for me it's ok.
i do respect somebody for actions or creations, like good extensions for chrome, i like chrome because of extensions but what can i tell about chrome itself is:
1)it haves almost not adjustable interface, while for me adjustability is most important thing;
2)as you might already understood i don't like that it's rapes my hdd, why i just can't browse the internet? why should i write content of it to hdd? weird thing...

суббота, 8 марта 2014 г., 2:28:30 UTC+4 пользователь PhistucK написал:
Says the one (or ones) who would be kind enough to reply to you and try and help you. Keeping discussions civilized usually yields better and faster responses. If you do not think the people here deserve some basic respect, you can use other browsers and use inappropriate terms in their forums, I am sure they would just love that and you will get tons of continued responses and help.


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Рома Чупин

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Mar 8, 2014, 11:31:57 AM3/8/14
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so what word you'd recommend to express "very intensive rude using/loading somth."?

суббота, 8 марта 2014 г., 18:48:57 UTC+4 пользователь Shezan Baig написал:

Рома,

Maybe this is just a translation issue and maybe you are not aware of what this word means in English.

But now that it has been pointed out to you, and you have been made aware that it is unacceptable, it is very  disrespectful for you to continue using it.

Perhaps you can find a better translation to convey the actual meaning you intended?

Please start a new thread with a new title, and maybe someone who knows the answer to your question would be willing to read your message.

PhistucK

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Mar 10, 2014, 2:04:32 PM3/10/14
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"Uses intensively" would be fine, for example. "Spins hard", "uses excessively"...


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Isiah Meadows

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Mar 10, 2014, 10:40:39 PM3/10/14
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I would like to point out something relevant to this discussion: my seventh grade Spanish teacher has come to America, and when she went to ask for a textbook at one point towards the beginning, the class thought she wanted to rape the book, not borrow it. This little verb difference between two different Spanish dialects led to the whole room laughing at her with her clueless as to why. Also, I'd like to point out that Google Translate is far from perfect, considering it is an epic fall at translating between English and Japanese. I find issues with the translations given even though I barely know the language.

Jonathan Garbee

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Mar 6, 2014, 3:39:09 PM3/6/14
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Do you have any data to back up the statement that your SSD's life span will be hindered by Chrome's writing to it? It appears from an endurance test that SSD's have greater longevity then people originally gave them theoretically. I doubt all the writing most people would do would get close to what this test puts upon these drives daily.

From what I understand Chrome has quite a few cache layers. You can really turn any of them off without affecting the overall performance of the browser in possibly known ways. I'd recommend trying to see how much data is actually being written to the caches before making the judgement that they are hurting your SSD, because that most likely isn't the case.

-Garbee
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Рома Чупин <edddd...@gmail.com> wrote:
My browsing is slow because chrome using HDD – looks like it's downloading content to HDD and from there to RAM to show me? But i don't remember that i've asked chrome for it? Because it's obviously slow way so it's wrong. And can't find the option to disable all cashes, found cookies setting only. And in google I only found that i can press F12→Options Icon→"Disable cache (while DevTools is open)" but can't see any difference after it.
Soon i'll have 8GB RAM and SSD so need to know if there a ways to NOT use SSD for any cashes (except history and cookies) because i don't need it and don't want to spend ssd life for it.

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Chris Bentzel

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Mar 7, 2014, 5:37:23 AM3/7/14
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Please do not use phrases such as this thread's subject line when
posting to chromium-discuss. It is not acceptable.

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PhistucK

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Mar 7, 2014, 5:28:30 PM3/7/14
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Says the one (or ones) who would be kind enough to reply to you and try and help you. Keeping discussions civilized usually yields better and faster responses. If you do not think the people here deserve some basic respect, you can use other browsers and use inappropriate terms in their forums, I am sure they would just love that and you will get tons of continued responses and help.


PhistucK

Shezan Baig

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Mar 8, 2014, 9:48:57 AM3/8/14
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Рома,

Maybe this is just a translation issue and maybe you are not aware of what this word means in English.

But now that it has been pointed out to you, and you have been made aware that it is unacceptable, it is very  disrespectful for you to continue using it.

Perhaps you can find a better translation to convey the actual meaning you intended?

Please start a new thread with a new title, and maybe someone who knows the answer to your question would be willing to read your message.

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