Scout browser released
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Thorsten Sick
Jan 28, 2016, 5:38:21 AM1/28/16
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Hello Chromium developers
We just released our Early Access (=Open Beta) version of the Scout
browser. We had it in closed beta testing for several months.
https://www.avira.com/en/avira-scout/
It should not have any impact on Chromium/Google infrastructure or
servers. But you never know....
If you see anything strange happening on the servers, please send us (me
or Kirill) a notification and we will fix it.
Thanks to all those giants for allowing us to stand on their shoulders
Thorsten Sick
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We just released our Early Access (=Open Beta) version of the Scout
browser. We had it in closed beta testing for several months.
https://www.avira.com/en/avira-scout/
It should not have any impact on Chromium/Google infrastructure or
servers. But you never know....
If you see anything strange happening on the servers, please send us (me
or Kirill) a notification and we will fix it.
Thanks to all those giants for allowing us to stand on their shoulders
Thorsten Sick
--
Avira Operations GmbH & Co. KG
Kaplaneiweg 1 | 88069 Tettnang | Deutschland / Germany
Telefon / Telephone: +49 7542-500 0
Telefax / Facsimile: +49 7542-500 3000
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PhistucK
Jan 28, 2016, 8:56:06 AM1/28/16
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Will you release the source code?
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Michael Giuffrida
Jan 28, 2016, 11:46:10 PM1/28/16
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+1. I'm a little curious about "we can go beyond add-on and have more of an add-in" but I'm hesitant to run an unfamiliar exe. Does the installer bundle other executables or change system defaults?
Thorsten Sick
Jan 29, 2016, 2:05:11 AM1/29/16
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Hello
Add-in:
At the moment we are investigating how extensions can have access to a
Flash/Java/PDF before it is displayed. So we can forward it to our AV
scanner first. For downloads there is a convenient API. But it seems we
have to add a new one for embedded objects.
I know the NPAPI thing is fixed now. But my trained anti-virus spider
senses tell me that the "Exploit by Flash/Java/PDF" situation will not
be solved in 2016....gut feeling.
So having a scanner just before external tools execute data downloaded
from some internet page will be a big benefit. And this is just the start.
-> If you have an idea how to best handle that, give me a hint, please.
We are already prototyping, but I am sure there are 3 ways to do this
and one of them is elegant.
For the EXE thing:
It is just a browser with extensions pre-installed. No external tools
will be downloaded. Setting it as default browser is optional. It does
not have any PUA bundled (For PUA see:
https://blog.avira.com/freemium-com-vs-avira-we-will-protect-you-against-pua/)
Of course you can run it in a VM for testing if you - like me - don't
trust people on the internet :-)
HTH
Thorsten Sick
Am 29.01.2016 um 05:44 schrieb Michael Giuffrida:
> +1. I'm a little curious about "we can go beyond add-on and have more of
> an add-in" but I'm hesitant to run an unfamiliar exe. Does the installer
> bundle other executables or change system defaults?
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:55 AM PhistucK <phis...@gmail.com
> <mailto:phis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Will you release the source code?
>
>
> ☆*PhistucK*
> Telefax / Facsimile: +49 7542-500 3000 <tel:%2B49%207542-500%203000>
> <mailto:chromi...@chromium.org>
Add-in:
At the moment we are investigating how extensions can have access to a
Flash/Java/PDF before it is displayed. So we can forward it to our AV
scanner first. For downloads there is a convenient API. But it seems we
have to add a new one for embedded objects.
I know the NPAPI thing is fixed now. But my trained anti-virus spider
senses tell me that the "Exploit by Flash/Java/PDF" situation will not
be solved in 2016....gut feeling.
So having a scanner just before external tools execute data downloaded
from some internet page will be a big benefit. And this is just the start.
-> If you have an idea how to best handle that, give me a hint, please.
We are already prototyping, but I am sure there are 3 ways to do this
and one of them is elegant.
For the EXE thing:
It is just a browser with extensions pre-installed. No external tools
will be downloaded. Setting it as default browser is optional. It does
not have any PUA bundled (For PUA see:
https://blog.avira.com/freemium-com-vs-avira-we-will-protect-you-against-pua/)
Of course you can run it in a VM for testing if you - like me - don't
trust people on the internet :-)
HTH
Thorsten Sick
Am 29.01.2016 um 05:44 schrieb Michael Giuffrida:
> +1. I'm a little curious about "we can go beyond add-on and have more of
> an add-in" but I'm hesitant to run an unfamiliar exe. Does the installer
> bundle other executables or change system defaults?
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:55 AM PhistucK <phis...@gmail.com
> <mailto:phis...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Will you release the source code?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Thorsten Sick
> <thorst...@avira.com <mailto:thorst...@avira.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello Chromium developers
>
> We just released our Early Access (=Open Beta) version of the Scout
> browser. We had it in closed beta testing for several months.
>
> https://www.avira.com/en/avira-scout/
>
> It should not have any impact on Chromium/Google infrastructure or
> servers. But you never know....
>
> If you see anything strange happening on the servers, please
> send us (me
> or Kirill) a notification and we will fix it.
>
> Thanks to all those giants for allowing us to stand on their
> shoulders
> Thorsten Sick
>
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> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Thorsten Sick
> <thorst...@avira.com <mailto:thorst...@avira.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello Chromium developers
>
> We just released our Early Access (=Open Beta) version of the Scout
> browser. We had it in closed beta testing for several months.
>
> https://www.avira.com/en/avira-scout/
>
> It should not have any impact on Chromium/Google infrastructure or
> servers. But you never know....
>
> If you see anything strange happening on the servers, please
> send us (me
> or Kirill) a notification and we will fix it.
>
> Thanks to all those giants for allowing us to stand on their
> shoulders
> Thorsten Sick
>
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Will
Jan 29, 2016, 2:13:32 AM1/29/16
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Java plugin is hopefully not a problem any more - it was always an NPAPI plugin so if your browser is based on recent Chromium it already cannot load.
Regarding scanning interface you might want to subscribe to updates or comment on https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=569431
Regarding scanning interface you might want to subscribe to updates or comment on https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=569431
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Thorsten Sick
Jan 29, 2016, 3:57:23 AM1/29/16
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Hi
Currently we are struggling with handling 22GB of source code internally :-)
And our changes are basically re-branding changes. For pragmatic reasons
our current decision here is:
- Logos and branding changes:
Will not be open sourced, because no one cares
- Security features that integrate Avira technology installed on the system:
Will not be open sourced, because no one cares. It is very specific.
- Fixes, security features (proposals) that all will benefit from, ...
We will send them to the chromium team and try to get those integrated
into vanilla chromium
- Enhancements, fixes, ... on HTTPS-everywhere/Privacy Badger and other
Open Source extensions:
Direct open source contribution
Short: We will try to open source anything others will benefit from as well.
HTH
Thorsten Sick
Am 28.01.2016 um 14:54 schrieb PhistucK:
> Will you release the source code?
>
>
> ☆*PhistucK*
> Telefax / Facsimile: +49 7542-500 3000 <tel:%2B49%207542-500%203000>
Currently we are struggling with handling 22GB of source code internally :-)
And our changes are basically re-branding changes. For pragmatic reasons
our current decision here is:
- Logos and branding changes:
Will not be open sourced, because no one cares
- Security features that integrate Avira technology installed on the system:
Will not be open sourced, because no one cares. It is very specific.
- Fixes, security features (proposals) that all will benefit from, ...
We will send them to the chromium team and try to get those integrated
into vanilla chromium
- Enhancements, fixes, ... on HTTPS-everywhere/Privacy Badger and other
Open Source extensions:
Direct open source contribution
Short: We will try to open source anything others will benefit from as well.
HTH
Thorsten Sick
Am 28.01.2016 um 14:54 schrieb PhistucK:
> Will you release the source code?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Thorsten Sick <thorst...@avira.com
> <mailto:thorst...@avira.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello Chromium developers
>
> We just released our Early Access (=Open Beta) version of the Scout
> browser. We had it in closed beta testing for several months.
>
> https://www.avira.com/en/avira-scout/
>
> It should not have any impact on Chromium/Google infrastructure or
> servers. But you never know....
>
> If you see anything strange happening on the servers, please send us (me
> or Kirill) a notification and we will fix it.
>
> Thanks to all those giants for allowing us to stand on their shoulders
> Thorsten Sick
>
> --
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> Kaplaneiweg 1 | 88069 Tettnang | Deutschland / Germany
> Telefon / Telephone: +49 7542-500 0 <tel:%2B49%207542-500%200>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Thorsten Sick <thorst...@avira.com
> <mailto:thorst...@avira.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello Chromium developers
>
> We just released our Early Access (=Open Beta) version of the Scout
> browser. We had it in closed beta testing for several months.
>
> https://www.avira.com/en/avira-scout/
>
> It should not have any impact on Chromium/Google infrastructure or
> servers. But you never know....
>
> If you see anything strange happening on the servers, please send us (me
> or Kirill) a notification and we will fix it.
>
> Thanks to all those giants for allowing us to stand on their shoulders
> Thorsten Sick
>
> --
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PhistucK
Jan 29, 2016, 6:23:57 AM1/29/16
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I respectfully strongly disagree. I may be misremembering, but the integration was specifically the part where high severity security issue were found on one of the Chromium based browsers that were advertised as secure.
See https://plus.google.com/+JustinSchuh/posts/69qw9wZVH8z for details.
While I do not think you are an incompetent team, of course, security issues do creep into products, no matter how great its engineers are.
Great!
Great!
☆PhistucK
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