Accessibility of Chromium's "View Source" with screen readers

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Jason White

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Apr 11, 2022, 1:24:00 PMApr 11
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Is the following a known issue?

If I access a Web page of reasonable size (e.g., 1MB of HTML surce) and
invoke View Source (Ctrl-U, Command-Option-U on Mac), screen readers
can't read and navigate the HTML source with reasonable effectiveness.
Specifically:

Orca under Linux: it can read the first several lines, but becomes
unresponsive as I try to search the text or to read through it with
Down-Arrow. This is also the best result - see below.

JAWS 2022 and NVDA 2022.1 beta 3 under MS-Windows: the page is treated
as though it were blank - the screen reader doesn't read it at all, even
if I wait a while.

VoiceOver under Mac OS: I wasn't able to read the source at all (after
using Command-Option-U to invoke).

I don't have a Chrome OS system readily available for testing. A
colleague reproduced the issue with JAWS 2022.

The page that I was testing (while reporting an issue related to another
free/open-source project):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_space


Jason White

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Apr 22, 2022, 10:44:00 AMApr 22
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On 22/4/22 04:16, Jacobo Aragunde Pérez wrote:
> Could you report it to: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium ? I could
> do it for you otherwise.

Yes, I'll report it. Thank you for doing the analysis.


Mi Phone

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Apr 22, 2022, 5:29:54 PMApr 22
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Aaron Leventhal

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Apr 22, 2022, 5:29:57 PMApr 22
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Hi, thank you for the report. Our team is looking into it.

Jacobo Aragunde Pérez

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Apr 22, 2022, 5:30:02 PMApr 22
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Hi Jason,

I don't think it's a known issue. I cannot find it reported, at least.

I did some testing on Linux from the chrome://accessibility debug page.
When we first query the accessibility tree of the view-source page, we
only get the root node, then Chromium starts eating up CPU and, upon
refresh, we eventually get the tree.

The generated tree has almost 97k lines! For comparison, the original
page has 12k and Chromium seems to cope much better with it. It looks
like a performance bug, in the end.

Could you report it to: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium ? I could
do it for you otherwise.

Best,
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Jacobo Aragunde
Software Engineer at Igalia

Jacobo Aragunde Pérez

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Apr 22, 2022, 5:30:07 PMApr 22
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Hi Jason,

I don't think it's a known issue. I cannot find it reported, at least.

I did some testing on Linux from the chrome://accessibility debug page. When we first query the accessibility tree of the view-source page, we only get the root node, then Chromium starts eating up CPU and, upon refresh, we eventually get the tree.

The generated tree has almost 97k lines! For comparison, the original page has 12k and Chromium seems to cope much better with it. It looks like a performance bug, in the end.

Could you report it to: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium ? I could do it for you otherwise.

PS: I'm pretty sure I replied, but I cannot see my mail posted so I'm re-sending it. Sorry if you are getting a duplicate!

Best,
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Jacobo Aragunde
Software Engineer at Igalia

Mi Phone

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Apr 22, 2022, 5:30:10 PMApr 22
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Paweł Polak

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May 10, 2022, 11:58:01 AMMay 10
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Nektarios Paisios

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May 10, 2022, 12:03:29 PMMay 10
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Hey, could you post the link to the bug that has been filed.
Please note that after testing I can use View Source on other pages, but on this particular one does not work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_space
This looks like a performance bug on that particular page, given that the source is so large.
Cheers,
Nektarios.

Mi Phone

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May 10, 2022, 12:32:41 PMMay 10
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