Intent to Remove: webkitBeforeTextInserted & webkitEditableContentChanged JS events

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Anupam Snigdha

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Mar 11, 2021, 3:02:22 PM3/11/21

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Summary

webkitBeforeTextInserted & webkitEditableContentChanged JS events are Blink internal and are non-standard events.

Motivation

webkitBeforeTextInserted & webkitEditableContentChanged JS events are Blink internal events and are non-standard events. There are better replacement of these events which Browser vendors have been actively working on such as Input events(https://w3c.github.io/input-events/).

Interoperability and Compatibility Risk

Considering the fact that it’s not spec’d and UseCounters show <0.000001% usage, interop and compat risks are minimal. Moreover Firefox doesn’t fire these events and Safari has plans to remove them in the future.

Edge: Positive to removal

Firefox: N/A as these events are internal to Webkit

Safari: Supported. Here is the bug tracking this work: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71168

Alternative implementation suggestion for web developers

Input events(https://w3c.github.io/input-events/): Browser vendors have been actively working on this spec and lot of improvements have been made since its proposal. These events are also interop and available on all major Browsers.

Tracking bug

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=382814

Entry on the feature dashboard

https://chromestatus.com/feature/4735675582644224

Chris Harrelson

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Mar 11, 2021, 3:13:24 PM3/11/21

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LGTM1

The webkit issue you linked to is from 2011, can you ping it?

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Anupam Snigdha

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Mar 11, 2021, 3:23:03 PM3/11/21

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Thanks Chris! I added a comment in that bug asking for updates and also gave them a headsup that we are proposing to remove this in Chromium.

Daniel Bratell

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Mar 11, 2021, 3:28:34 PM3/11/21

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LGTM2

/Daniel

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Manuel Rego Casasnovas

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Mar 11, 2021, 3:29:37 PM3/11/21

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LGTM3

On 11/03/2021 21:28, Daniel Bratell wrote:
> LGTM2
>
> /Daniel
>
> On 2021-03-11 21:22, 'Anupam Snigdha' via blink-dev wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Chris! I added a comment in that bug asking for updates and
>> also gave them a headsup that we are proposing to remove this in Chromium.
>>
>>
>>

>> *From:* Chris Harrelson <chri...@chromium.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 11, 2021 12:13 PM
>> *To:* Anupam Snigdha <sni...@microsoft.com>
>> *Cc:* blin...@chromium.org; yo...@google.com; Bo Cupp
>> <pc...@microsoft.com>
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Remove:

>> webkitBeforeTextInserted & webkitEditableContentChanged JS events
>>
>>
>>
>> LGTM1
>>
>>
>>
>> The webkit issue you linked to is from 2011, can you ping it?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:02 PM 'Anupam Snigdha' via blink-dev

>> <blin...@chromium.org <mailto:blin...@chromium.org>> wrote:
>>
>> *Primary eng (and PM) emails*
>>
>> sni...@microsoft.com <mailto:sni...@microsoft.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Summary*

>>
>> webkitBeforeTextInserted & webkitEditableContentChanged JS events
>> are Blink internal and are non-standard events.
>>
>>
>>

>> *Motivation*

>>
>> webkitBeforeTextInserted & webkitEditableContentChanged JS events
>> are Blink internal events and are non-standard events. There are
>> better replacement of these events which Browser vendors have been
>> actively working on such as Input
>> events(https://w3c.github.io/input-events/

>> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Finput-events%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csnianu%40microsoft.com%7C23eb8d3324594330741108d8e4ca1e11%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637510904028058990%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Jn9psp9tERPoNrF3r5zBrwBQNyXYiu8aVy78%2Fu6lbxU%3D&reserved=0>).
>>
>>
>>
>> *Interoperability and Compatibility Risk*

>>
>> Considering the fact that it’s not spec’d and UseCounters show
>> <0.000001% usage, interop and compat risks are minimal. Moreover
>> Firefox doesn’t fire these events and Safari has plans to remove
>> them in the future.
>>
>>
>>
>> Edge: Positive to removal
>>
>> Firefox: N/A as these events are internal to Webkit
>>
>> Safari: Supported. Here is the bug tracking this work:
>> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71168

>> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.webkit.org%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D71168&data=04%7C01%7Csnianu%40microsoft.com%7C23eb8d3324594330741108d8e4ca1e11%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637510904028068957%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=q0UPpA%2FONaRGn9CW5tQO4NqtmF0zMAhgD80cBHhAjys%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Alternative implementation suggestion for web developers*
>>
>> Input events(https://w3c.github.io/input-events/
>> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Finput-events%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csnianu%40microsoft.com%7C23eb8d3324594330741108d8e4ca1e11%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637510904028068957%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=YsqMWKW65hW6dXQIfX2KrpFfVY0MLVZfHs1mdtO8xXM%3D&reserved=0>):

>> Browser vendors have been actively working on this spec and lot of
>> improvements have been made since its proposal. These events are
>> also interop and available on all major Browsers.
>>
>>
>>

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