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    Jeffrey Yasskin . resolved

    @to...@chromium.org: Can you check that I migrated this correctly? Feel free to suggest further improvements in this CL or to have me merge this and then send your own changes.

    Others: I adjusted some of the cross-links to point here. Let me know if I missed any or if you'd cross-link differently.

    File site/blink/launching-features/wide-review/web-developers/index.md
    Line 14, Patchset 2:Twitter (via Twitter's own search if you have an account
    Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) . unresolved

    Should we move this to refer to social media in general, as the developer community is now splintered between twitter, mastodon and bluesky?

    Jeffrey Yasskin

    I think we ought to replace all the Twitter links with something else, but I defer to @to...@chromium.org and other DevRel folks on what to replace them with.

    Line 25, Patchset 3:signal is *recommended* for [dev trials](/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials).
    Jeffrey Yasskin . unresolved

    @to...@chromium.org: It's not actually recommended there. We just have "At this point, you should consider asking other browser vendors and the web developer community for signals on their opinion of the API." in https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials. If DevRel thinks we _should_ recommend this before dev trials, could you send a change to that file? If you're going to do that, I think it's fine to leave this text (or similar) here in this PR.

    Line 83, Patchset 4:* Working Group call minutes that included industry participants like
    [this](???).
    Jeffrey Yasskin . unresolved

    @to...@chromium.org: This linked to https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/YMrf4l2DqtM/m/B8FB2axQAQAJ in https://goo.gle/developer-signals, but that isn't WG call minutes. Do you know what the right link was?

    Line 139, Patchset 5 (Latest):external-facing developer outreach, DevRel has access to the official
    [@ChromiumDev Twitter account](https://x.com/chromiumdev)—well noting that this
    Jeffrey Yasskin . unresolved

    @to...@chromium.org: Does DevRel now post more widely than just Twitter? Can we mention a different social media account?

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    File site/blink/launching-features/wide-review/web-developers/index.md
    Line 14, Patchset 2:Twitter (via Twitter's own search if you have an account
    Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) . unresolved

    Should we move this to refer to social media in general, as the developer community is now splintered between twitter, mastodon and bluesky?

    Jeffrey Yasskin

    I think we ought to replace all the Twitter links with something else, but I defer to @to...@chromium.org and other DevRel folks on what to replace them with.

    Mike Taylor

    Yeah, +1 to making this more generic, or mentioning multiple venues.

    Line 25, Patchset 3:signal is *recommended* for [dev trials](/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials).
    Jeffrey Yasskin . unresolved

    @to...@chromium.org: It's not actually recommended there. We just have "At this point, you should consider asking other browser vendors and the web developer community for signals on their opinion of the API." in https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials. If DevRel thinks we _should_ recommend this before dev trials, could you send a change to that file? If you're going to do that, I think it's fine to leave this text (or similar) here in this PR.

    Mike Taylor

    IMHO, this doesn't make sense as a recommendation _before_ a dev trial. Instead, I would hope we would get some developer views as a result of publishing the dev trial.

    Line 139, Patchset 5 (Latest):external-facing developer outreach, DevRel has access to the official
    [@ChromiumDev Twitter account](https://x.com/chromiumdev)—well noting that this
    Jeffrey Yasskin . unresolved

    @to...@chromium.org: Does DevRel now post more widely than just Twitter? Can we mention a different social media account?

    Mike Taylor

    +1.

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    Thomas Steiner . resolved

    Agree with all comments and have addressed them with suggested edits. This document was written in a different time, _sigh_…

    File site/blink/launching-features/wide-review/web-developers/index.md
    Line 14, Patchset 2:Twitter (via Twitter's own search if you have an account
    Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) . unresolved

    Should we move this to refer to social media in general, as the developer community is now splintered between twitter, mastodon and bluesky?

    Jeffrey Yasskin

    I think we ought to replace all the Twitter links with something else, but I defer to @to...@chromium.org and other DevRel folks on what to replace them with.

    Mike Taylor

    Yeah, +1 to making this more generic, or mentioning multiple venues.

    Thomas Steiner

    Agreed, and addressed in my suggested edit.

    Line 16, Patchset 2:or via Google Search if you don't
    Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) . unresolved

    Similarly, should this include multiple potential search engines?

    Thomas Steiner

    Agreed, and addressed in my suggested edit.

    Line 14, Patchset 5 (Latest):Twitter (via Twitter's own search if you have an account
    [[example]](https://x.com/search?q=%22img%22%20%22loading%3D%27lazy%27%22&src=typed_query),
    or via Google Search if you don't
    [[example]](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22img%22+%22loading%3D%27lazy%27%22+site%3Atwitter.com)).
    Thomas Steiner . unresolved

    ```suggestion
    social media search or via web search.
    ```

    Line 18, Patchset 5 (Latest):Proceed similarly on StackOverflow, GitHub, or perform a generic Web search
    Thomas Steiner . unresolved

    ```suggestion
    Proceed similarly on StackOverflow, GitHub, or any other relevant platform
    ```

    Line 25, Patchset 3:signal is *recommended* for [dev trials](/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials).
    Jeffrey Yasskin . unresolved

    @to...@chromium.org: It's not actually recommended there. We just have "At this point, you should consider asking other browser vendors and the web developer community for signals on their opinion of the API." in https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials. If DevRel thinks we _should_ recommend this before dev trials, could you send a change to that file? If you're going to do that, I think it's fine to leave this text (or similar) here in this PR.

    Mike Taylor

    IMHO, this doesn't make sense as a recommendation _before_ a dev trial. Instead, I would hope we would get some developer views as a result of publishing the dev trial.

    Thomas Steiner

    ```suggestion
    signal is *optional* for [dev trials](/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials).
    ```

    I lowered this to _optional_, since it still makes sense to document developer opinions or demand at the dev trial stage (if just to save some work once the feature ships and it becomes _required_.

    Line 29, Patchset 5 (Latest):> * &lt;link to Twitter poll>
    Thomas Steiner . unresolved

    ```suggestion
    > * &lt;link to social media post or poll>
    ```

    Line 74, Patchset 2:* Discussion boards like [WICG Discourse](https://discourse.wicg.io/).
    Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) . unresolved

    Discourse is no longer active, but support on the WICG prposals repo may be an alternative.

    Thomas Steiner

    I've just removed the examples.

    Line 73, Patchset 5 (Latest):* Online social networking sites like [Twitter](https://x.com/home).
    * Version control sites like [GitHub](https://github.com/).
    * Discussion boards like [WICG Discourse](https://discourse.wicg.io/).
    Thomas Steiner . unresolved

    ```suggestion

    • Online social networking sites like.
    • Version control sites like [GitHub](https://github.com/).
    • Discussion boards.
    • ```
    Line 139, Patchset 5 (Latest):external-facing developer outreach, DevRel has access to the official
    [@ChromiumDev Twitter account](https://x.com/chromiumdev)—well noting that this
    Jeffrey Yasskin . unresolved

    @to...@chromium.org: Does DevRel now post more widely than just Twitter? Can we mention a different social media account?

    Mike Taylor

    +1.

    Thomas Steiner

    Addressed in the suggested edit.

    external-facing developer outreach, DevRel has access to the official

    [@ChromiumDev Twitter account](https://x.com/chromiumdev)—well noting that this
    may introduce follower bias. DevRel can signal-boost or create polls, and ask
    people to chime in on conversations happening on GitHub, Discourse, and
    Thomas Steiner . unresolved

    ```suggestion


    external-facing developer outreach, DevRel has access to the official

    Chrome accounts on various social media platforms—well noting that this
    may introduce follower bias. DevRel can signal-boost or create polls, and ask
    people to chime in on conversations happening on GitHub and
    ```

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