Import https://goo.gle/developer-signals, with some modernization. [website : main]

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File site/blink/launching-features/wide-review/web-developers/index.md
Line 14, Patchset 2:Twitter (via Twitter's own search if you have an account
Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) . resolved

Should we move this to refer to social media in general, as the developer community is now splintered between twitter, mastodon and bluesky?

Jeffrey Yasskin

I think we ought to replace all the Twitter links with something else, but I defer to @to...@chromium.org and other DevRel folks on what to replace them with.

Mike Taylor

Yeah, +1 to making this more generic, or mentioning multiple venues.

Thomas Steiner

Agreed, and addressed in my suggested edit.

Jeffrey Yasskin

Done

Line 16, Patchset 2:or via Google Search if you don't
Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) . resolved

Similarly, should this include multiple potential search engines?

Thomas Steiner

Agreed, and addressed in my suggested edit.

Jeffrey Yasskin

Done

Line 14, Patchset 5:Twitter (via Twitter's own search if you have an account
[[example]](https://x.com/search?q=%22img%22%20%22loading%3D%27lazy%27%22&src=typed_query),
or via Google Search if you don't
[[example]](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22img%22+%22loading%3D%27lazy%27%22+site%3Atwitter.com)).
Thomas Steiner . resolved

```suggestion
social media search or via web search.
```

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Line 18, Patchset 5:Proceed similarly on StackOverflow, GitHub, or perform a generic Web search
Thomas Steiner . resolved

```suggestion
Proceed similarly on StackOverflow, GitHub, or any other relevant platform
```

Jeffrey Yasskin

Done

Line 25, Patchset 3:signal is *recommended* for [dev trials](/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials).
Jeffrey Yasskin . resolved

@to...@chromium.org: It's not actually recommended there. We just have "At this point, you should consider asking other browser vendors and the web developer community for signals on their opinion of the API." in https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials. If DevRel thinks we _should_ recommend this before dev trials, could you send a change to that file? If you're going to do that, I think it's fine to leave this text (or similar) here in this PR.

Mike Taylor

IMHO, this doesn't make sense as a recommendation _before_ a dev trial. Instead, I would hope we would get some developer views as a result of publishing the dev trial.

Thomas Steiner

```suggestion
signal is *optional* for [dev trials](/blink/launching-features/#dev-trials).
```

I lowered this to _optional_, since it still makes sense to document developer opinions or demand at the dev trial stage (if just to save some work once the feature ships and it becomes _required_.

Jeffrey Yasskin

Done

Line 29, Patchset 5:> * <link to Twitter poll>
Thomas Steiner . resolved

```suggestion
> * <link to social media post or poll>
```

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Line 74, Patchset 2:* Discussion boards like [WICG Discourse](https://discourse.wicg.io/).
Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) . resolved

Discourse is no longer active, but support on the WICG prposals repo may be an alternative.

Thomas Steiner

I've just removed the examples.

Jeffrey Yasskin

Done

Line 73, Patchset 5:* Online social networking sites like [Twitter](https://x.com/home).
* Version control sites like [GitHub](https://github.com/).
* Discussion boards like [WICG Discourse](https://discourse.wicg.io/).
Thomas Steiner . resolved

```suggestion

  • Online social networking sites like.
  • Version control sites like [GitHub](https://github.com/).
  • Discussion boards.
  • ```
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Line 83, Patchset 8:* Working Group call minutes that included industry participants.
Jeffrey Yasskin . unresolved

@to...@chromium.org: This linked to https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/YMrf4l2DqtM/m/B8FB2axQAQAJ in https://goo.gle/developer-signals, but that isn't WG call minutes. I've removed the example for now, but do you know what the right link was?

Line 83, Patchset 4:* Working Group call minutes that included industry participants like
[this](???).
Jeffrey Yasskin . resolved

@to...@chromium.org: This linked to https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/YMrf4l2DqtM/m/B8FB2axQAQAJ in https://goo.gle/developer-signals, but that isn't WG call minutes. Do you know what the right link was?

Jeffrey Yasskin

Comment moved to current patchset.

Line 139, Patchset 5:external-facing developer outreach, DevRel has access to the official
[@ChromiumDev Twitter account](https://x.com/chromiumdev)—well noting that this
Jeffrey Yasskin . resolved

@to...@chromium.org: Does DevRel now post more widely than just Twitter? Can we mention a different social media account?

Mike Taylor

+1.

Thomas Steiner

Addressed in the suggested edit.

Jeffrey Yasskin

Done

Line 139, Patchset 5:external-facing developer outreach, DevRel has access to the official
[@ChromiumDev Twitter account](https://x.com/chromiumdev)—well noting that this
may introduce follower bias. DevRel can signal-boost or create polls, and ask
people to chime in on conversations happening on GitHub, Discourse, and
Thomas Steiner . resolved

```suggestion
external-facing developer outreach, DevRel has access to the official
Chrome accounts on various social media platforms—well noting that this
may introduce follower bias. DevRel can signal-boost or create polls, and ask
people to chime in on conversations happening on GitHub and
```

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File site/blink/launching-features/wide-review/web-developers/index.md
Line 83, Patchset 8:* Working Group call minutes that included industry participants.
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@to...@chromium.org: This linked to https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/YMrf4l2DqtM/m/B8FB2axQAQAJ in https://goo.gle/developer-signals, but that isn't WG call minutes. I've removed the example for now, but do you know what the right link was?

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It seems fine to leave this without a link, IMHO.

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    File site/blink/launching-features/wide-review/web-developers/index.md
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    @to...@chromium.org: This linked to https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/YMrf4l2DqtM/m/B8FB2axQAQAJ in https://goo.gle/developer-signals, but that isn't WG call minutes. I've removed the example for now, but do you know what the right link was?

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    It seems fine to leave this without a link, IMHO.

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    Yepp, that's fine with me, too. (The initial idea was to link everything with an example, but this proved hard.)

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    @to...@chromium.org: It sounds like you're happy with the current state of the CL, and Mike has +1'ed, so I'll merge this. Let me know if you'd like any follow-up changes.

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    @to...@chromium.org: This linked to https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/YMrf4l2DqtM/m/B8FB2axQAQAJ in https://goo.gle/developer-signals, but that isn't WG call minutes. I've removed the example for now, but do you know what the right link was?

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    It seems fine to leave this without a link, IMHO.

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    Yepp, that's fine with me, too. (The initial idea was to link everything with an example, but this proved hard.)

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      • M site/blink/guidelines/web-platform-changes-guidelines/index.md
      • M site/blink/launching-features/index.md
      • M site/blink/launching-features/wide-review/index.md
      • A site/blink/launching-features/wide-review/web-developers/index.md
      Change size: M
      Delta: 4 files changed, 171 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
      Branch: refs/heads/main
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