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| Shipping on desktop | 150 |
| Shipping on Android | 150 |
| Shipping on WebView | 150 |
Hi Kent,
This looks like a useful feature with clear developer interest, based on [css-fonts-5] Feature for making text always fit the width of its parent · Issue #2528 · w3c/csswg-drafts.
One minor question is whether this issue might fit well under the “Initial public proposal” section?
> Regarding accessibility, there is one open issue (https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/12886). While we may slightly adjust the behavior once a resolution is reached, the risk of breaking existing websites would be very low. Therefore, we believe it is safe to ship the feature in its current state.
I’m somewhat cautious about shipping with known accessibility concerns under the assumption that it can be adjusted later. Could you provide more detail on the potential user impact? It would also be helpful to understand what changes this issue might introduce and why they’re expected to be low risk for sites adopting the feature, potentially in the “Anticipated spec changes” section.
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This seems like a great feature that I expect to get a lot of use.
That said, I find the accessibility issue a bit counter-intuitive. The concern is that by increasing the font size too much, there won't be room to further grow it, and therefore the growth will possibly (depending on resolution of the issue) be limited by default to 200%?
If anything I would, from an accessibility view point, be worried about text automatically shrinking despite user attempts at making it bigger.
Have I missed something central?
Either way, I think this can be tuned post-release without harming either users or adoption or site owners. I am a bit disappointed that WebKit and Mozilla have not found time to express support, but they have had time to voice objections so I hope they will come along after this is in Chromium.
LGTM1
/Daniel
Thanks for the additional details.
> I've proposed a solution in issue 12886 (and commented there about it) that I think satisfies all of the font sizing concerns. We discussed that solution at both the CSSWG and ARIA WG.
Are there minutes we can link to for the ARIA WG discussion, or was it more informal? Mainly looking to understand whether there’s broader agreement from that group on a path forward.
> The team is comfortable changing the implementation to match that solution or another solution if there is a resolution to adopt it.
Do we expect that reaching a resolution here will take significant time? If so, did we consider shipping with the proposed adjustment that we believe meets WCAG requirements, monitor the rollout and utilize results to help inform the long-term resolution in the CSSWG issue instead?
> We don't think a potential change will impact many users, and even then, it will just make fonts a bit bigger than before.
I noticed the CSSWG minutes from January suggested prototyping the proposal and returning with demos. Have we explored that path and found it to be non-trivial, or did we potentially come to the conclusion that we don't think this will be a concern in practice, and there is a good chance the resolution will end up being "no change" in the end?
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Thanks Alison for raising the concerns (and Chris for the helpful responses).
LGTM2 % updating the context around a11y discussions in Chromestatus for the history books.
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