SDCH spec.

[Vasily Chekalkin]

Hello everyone.

Just to continue discussion about SDCH in slightly more visible place based on https://codereview.chromium.org/1876683002/#msg26.

We do want to properly submit SDCH via IETF. But there is small blocker on the way. Current "SDCH spec"[1] doesn't include copyright statement. So we can't just take it as base.
Same is applicable for stalled SDCH2 work[2]. And we can't incorporate ideas from that document freely. At least without some lawyers involvement.

So question is who I should to bug to have both documents properly copyrighted and we can get from there?



[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2008JulSep/att-0441/Shared_Dictionary_Compression_over_HTTP.pdf
[2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UhN7-ZpDqR3vq9OcZ12LQsfhPaNmJNkCM7KRcPLy2VY/edit

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[Randy Smith]

Adding in the SDCH protocol list, as folks on that list may have ideas about copyright status of the spec.

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[Randy Smith]

Also pulling in Pranav Kedia, who's driven the delta encoding work (reference [2]).

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[John Lenz]

Would something like this be sufficient:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U1RGAehQwRypUTovF1KRlpiOFze0b-_2gc6fAH0KY0k/edit#heading=h.zhn1phd7ocnp

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[Vasily Chekalkin]

Hello.

 

I'm not a lawyer, but from my point of view "CC BY-SA" looks reasonable.

 

17.05.2016, 09:15, "John Lenz" <conca...@gmail.com>:

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[Vladimir Ivanov]

+Chaals McCathie Nevile <cha...@yandex-team.ru>

Chaals, could you please clarify the things?

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17.05.2016 03:08, Vasily Chekalkin пишет:

[Chaals McCathie Nevile]

Hi all,

(I'm not a lawyer either).

As I read cc-by-sa it seems viral in the copyleft sense. The problem is
that we could not publish it at W3C, and may not be compatible with IETF,
either. CC-BY would work, or an explicit permission to work on this under
IETF license terms within IETF, or something similar.

cheers

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[John Lenz]

Hi all, the spec text will be relicensing as CC-BY 4.0.

[Chaals McCathie Nevile]

On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 23:01:43 +0200, John Lenz <conca...@gmail.com>
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> Hi all, the spec text will be relicensing as CC-BY 4.0.

Great, thank you very much.

cheers

[weih...@google.com]

Hi,

Attached please find the SDCH spec with proper license language. Thank you for your feedback and patience.

Thanks,

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[Chaals McCathie Nevile]

Hi,

thank you Wei-Hsin and all.

cheers

Chaals

On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 19:26:29 +0200, <weih...@google.com> wrote:

> Attached please find the SDCH spec with proper license language. Thank
> you for your feedback and patience.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wei-Hsin
>
> On Friday, June 3, 2016 at 2:02:04 PM UTC-7, John Lenz wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, the spec text will be relicensing as CC-BY 4.0.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Chaals McCathie Nevile <
>> cha...@yandex-team.ru <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> (I'm not a lawyer either).
>>>
>>> As I read cc-by-sa it seems viral in the copyleft sense. The problem is
>>> that we could not publish it at W3C, and may not be compatible with
>>> IETF,
>>> either. CC-BY would work, or an explicit permission to work on this
>>> under
>>> IETF license terms within IETF, or something similar.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:35:01 +0200, Vladimir Ivanov
>>> <wa...@yandex-team.ru

>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +Chaals McCathie Nevile <cha...@yandex-team.ru <javascript:>>

>>>>
>>>> Chaals, could you please clarify the things?
>>>>
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>>>> @yandex-team
>>>>
>>>> 17.05.2016 03:08, Vasily Chekalkin пишет:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello.
>>>>> I'm not a lawyer, but from my point of view "CC BY-SA" looks
>>>>> reasonable.

>>>>> 17.05.2016, 09:15, "John Lenz" <conca...@gmail.com <javascript:>>:

>>>>>
>>>>>> Would something like this be sufficient:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U1RGAehQwRypUTovF1KRlpiOFze0b-_2gc6fAH0KY0k/edit#heading=h.zhn1phd7ocnp
>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Randy Smith <rds...@chromium.org

>>>>>> <javascript:>

>>>>>> <mailto:rds...@chromium.org <javascript:>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also pulling in Pranav Kedia, who's driven the delta encoding
>>>>>> work (reference [2]).
>>>>>> -- Randy
>>>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Randy Smith

>>>>>> <rds...@chromium.org <javascript:> <mailto:rds...@chromium.org

>>>>>> <javascript:>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adding in the SDCH protocol list, as folks on that list may
>>>>>> have ideas about copyright status of the spec.
>>>>>> -- Randy
>>>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Vasily Chekalkin

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[Wei-Hsin Lee]

Hi Chaals,

You are welcome! With proper license in the spec, I am curious what do you plan to do?

Thanks,

Wei-Hsin