Enquiry about Kshatriya-Dharma in Daiva-Varnasrama

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May 13, 2026, 8:37:05 AM (6 days ago) May 13
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From "Kartikaye Rishi" 
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Date 13-05-2026 12:39:36
Subject Enquiry about Kshatriya-Dharma in Daiva-Varnasrama

Hare Krishna Maharaj,
Dandvat Pranams at your lotus feet, 
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada

What would the role of ksatriya (administrators, kings etc.) in a setup according to Daiva-Varnasrama, especially when the projects will expand? How will it function? When the Varnasrama System will expand to be big enough, will we require Kings or Administrators to handle protection, crime and justice? Also, will there be tax collection by these local administrators/kshatriyas? (Since according to Indian law, agriculture is nontaxable)
Or will the big projects still depend on the government's law, which is impractical, wrong and unjust, especially in a Krsna Conscious way?
Does the project of Varnasrama (in its later phases) also include monarchy? Or will it remain subscribed only to farms, cow protection and natural living? How will this function? 

Thank you very much. 
Hare Krishna,
Dandvat Pranams,
Dasanudasa,
Kartikaye Rishi. 

BVKS Sanga

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May 13, 2026, 11:49:23 AM (6 days ago) May 13
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From "Jay Nityananda Das" 
Date 13-05-2026 19:41:31
Subject Re: Enquiry about Kshatriya-Dharma in Daiva-Varnasrama

Sri Sri Guru Gaurangau Jayatah

Dear Guru Maharaja, and other devotees,

Srimad Guru-caranebhyo Namo Namah
Srimad Vaisnavebhyo Namo Namah
Srila Prabhupada-kirtir Vijayatetaram !!!

For the pleasure of Guru Maharaja and other Vaisnavas and for my own purification, let me present a few thoughts on this issue.

What would the role of ksatriya (administrators, kings etc.) in a setup according to Daiva-Varnasrama, especially when the projects will expand? 

I will answer this within the context of modern India.

Monarchy was the norm some 100 years before in Bharata. There were separate independent Kings and they ruled their individual territories. Later, Mugalas and so on and then, finally Britishers attacked and dominated this land and had many princely states under their control. These princely states were semi-autonomous territories in India under British colonial rule, governed by local rulers rather than directly by the British. Moreover, looking at world history (considering different foreign countries), (various perverted forms of arya-monarchy) monarchy collapsed within 100 years or so due to different reasons. So, it seems democracy is still a very new thing to the world to be tried harder (by people) and miserably failed soon ! 

Having this scenario, I humbly think that our projects will have to strive to bring Arya-monarchy (the purest form of monarchy) to our projects to the best level possible. 

How will it function? When the Varnasrama System will expand to be big enough, will we require Kings or Administrators to handle protection, crime and justice? 

The concerns mentioned and others can be addressed to the level we gain power and support of people living inside/outside of our communities. The same concerns could be addressed with the help of modern administration if they reach certain limits that cannot be handled by local administration. For instance, for a minor crime, our local administration can give some justice, however, for severe crimes like murders, we will have to take help from modern administration as we are still connected to it for many things. Moreover, the social condition of any society or group cannot be changed overnight. It takes some time, maybe a few generations!
 
Also, will there be tax collection by these local administrators/kshatriyas? (Since according to Indian law, agriculture is nontaxable)

Well, tax can be given in the form of donation. There are ways as to how to present it to the world. 

Or will the big projects still depend on the government's law, which is impractical, wrong and unjust, especially in a Krsna Conscious way?

Maybe to a certain extent. The shastra-niti (sarva-nasa-ardha-tyaga-nyaya) says that it's better to give up half to save one's whole existence because with the second half later we can bring the whole thing. Let's remember how Vasudeva tactfully dealt with Kamsa and gave him the cruel promise.

Does the project of Varnasrama (in its later phases) also include monarchy? Or will it remain subscribed only to farms, cow protection and natural living? How will this function? 

Things would emerge gradually and naturally. The only thing is that we should always keep maintenance and good care of Mother cows, shastra and brahmanas in the center. They are the pillars of Varnasrama! If they are neglected, nothing auspiciousness can be expected.

Hope this pleases Sri Hari-Guru-Vaisnavas,

dasabhasa, jay nityananda das.

BVKS Sanga

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May 14, 2026, 8:19:34 AM (5 days ago) May 14
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From "Radhananda (Dasa) BVKS"
Date 14-05-2026 14:16:42
Subject Re: Enquiry about Kshatriya-Dharma in Daiva-Varnasrama
Sri Sri Guru Gaurangau Jayatah
Jaya Srila Prabhupada
Jay Srila Gurudeva

H.G. Jay Nityananda Prabhu has already covered all the points nicely. I would like to add a few more.

Scriptures talk about prescribed duties of different varnas and asramas, and by continuation of traditional practice varanasrama culture was maintained for a long time, until it was eventually destroyed under the influence of Kali. While prescribed are mentioned in the scriptures, there is no blue-print in scriptures on how to re-establish varnasrama in a demoniac society. 

There will be many grass-roots projects like the ones that we have today. If devotees gain administrative influence in certain areas at a suitable time, there might also be some top-down enforcement  of varnasrama by a Kshatriya government in those limited places. How exactly things will unfold will vary widely across geographies, depending on social, economic and cultural situations.

Social revolutions are inherently messy and like wars they never unfold as per the plan. But one common pattern that is observed in all social changes is that in the beginning a small number of 'Early Adopters' who are the risk takers will be the first ones to experiment and try out various initiatives despite all risks and failures. Once there is stable success and a proven model that has been adopted by a critical mass, a large number of 'Mass Adopters' join the movement; this especially includes those who always wanted to participate, but were risk averse and were waiting for a proven stable model. And last ones to hesitatingly join are 'Laggards' who don't want to participate but have no choice since a vast majority has moved on to a new social system.

Early adopters are typically less than 5% of the population. The critical level for 'Mass Adopters' (~50% of the population) to start participating and drive exponential growth is triggered when ~20% of the population has successfully adopted the new social model. The remaining ~30% of the population will always be laggards. These are ball park estimates of percentages for historical social changes/revolutions.

I hope this helps.

Hare Krsna

Your Servant,
Radhananda Dasa

On Wed, May 13, 2026 at 6:07 PM BVKS Sanga wrote:
From "Kartikaye Rishi" 
To "BVKS Sanga" 
Date 13-05-2026 12:39:36
Subject Enquiry about Kshatriya-Dharma in Daiva-Varnasrama

Hare Krishna Maharaj,
Dandvat Pranams at your lotus feet, 
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada

What would the role of ksatriya (administrators, kings etc.) in a setup according to Daiva-Varnasrama, especially when the projects will expand? How will it function? When the Varnasrama System will expand to be big enough, will we require Kings or Administrators to handle protection, crime and justice? Also, will there be tax collection by these local administrators/kshatriyas? (Since according to Indian law, agriculture is nontaxable)
Or will the big projects still depend on the government's law, which is impractical, wrong and unjust, especially in a Krsna Conscious way?
Does the project of Varnasrama (in its later phases) also include monarchy? Or will it remain subscribed only to farms, cow protection and natural living? How will this function? 

Thank you very much. 
Hare Krishna,
Dandvat Pranams,
Dasanudasa,
Kartikaye Rishi. 
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