Wunderlinq X specifications

[m s]

Hello everyone,

does anyone know where I can find the (electrical) specifications of the Wunderlinq X?

Bonus question:

Does anyone know what kind of counterpart plug can be used to connect to the accessory connector?

I am trying to determine whether I can connect my SP Connect wireless charging module straight to the accessory connector. For that I need to know the electrical specs of the accessory connector (which are hopefully included in the specs of the WunderlinQ X).

I wasn't able to find any or was too dump to find them. Only thing I found was that the non-X WunderlinQ can provide upto 10W or 2.0A (@5V) on its "USB-A Power Port" which ofc doesn't neccessarily translate to the accessory connector of the X.

The alternative will be one of the widely available Y-adaptors between the WunderlinQ X and the nav gradle plug. But if the accessory connector is able to provide enough power that would save me the additional wiring with the Y-adaptor. Ideally the Wunderlinq X just routes the power lines from the nav gradle plug through to some pins on the accessory connector.

Since support seems rather slow in responding, I am hoping that maybe some folks on the userlist already tinkered a bit with it and maybe figured this stuff out already. Otherwise I will do some measurements myself within the upcoming week to see what comes out of the accessory connector.

Happy for any help and insights.

Have a good one everybody! :)

[Support]

Hi,

We don't recommend sourcing power from the WunderLINQ X accessory connector. The limiting factor is that the bike will shut down the cradle port if the power draw is too great.  We had a user try to do something similar, but the power draw was too great, and the bike shut down the port. After they removed the second device and cycled the ignition, it was functioning again.

You could use it to trigger a relay on the bike ignition. The WunderLINQ X accessory connector is intended for future controllable accessories, our first will be a two channel power controller. 

We'll update the X documentation to cover the pinout of the connector.

Keith

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[m “yipie!” s]

Hey Keith,

thank you for the fast response!

That is good to know and some valuable information.

Do you have any information about the power consumption of the WunderlinQ X (min./avg./max.)?

I am thinking about sth. like the min./avg./max. values that can usually be found in datasheets for electronic components.

That should make it easier to determine whether someone can simply add another consumer to the gradle port of his/her wiring harness or not.

> We'll update the X documentation to cover the pinout of the connector.

That sounds very helpful. Looking forward to it! :)

Kind regards

[WunderLINQ Support]

Hi,

We do have those measurements, I will need to dig them up. Until I update the docs, here is the pinout.

1. 12V Signal

2. Ground

3. Data

[m “yipie!” s]

Hey Keith,

thanks for the pinout, that makes my tinkering a little bit easier :)

Also looking forward to those measurements!

If you're interested I can post my measurements as well, as soon as I am done with them.

One more on-topic related questions:

1) Is the accessory connector a standard (automotive) male/female connector? And if so, are you able to share the connector type/model?

Would also make my tinkering a little bit easier :)

One off-topic related question:

2) I send a support request a week ago and haven't gotten any feedback except the default auto-answer whereas on the user group you replied within hours (kudos!). Is it more convenient for you guys to post support related stuff on the user group as well? Although I am hesistant to post sensitive information on the user group which is why I did the support request in the first place.

Thanks so far for your forthcoming manner, really appreciate it!

[WunderLINQ Support]

Hi,

Here are the connector specs; you can find pigtails on Amazon in the US.

I just searched and don't see your email or chat. Did you send it to this email or possibly the EU shop? We don't monitor the EU email.

[m “yipie!” s]

Sweet!

I'll have a look for those and see where I can find them in the EU.

I sent my support request to sup...@blackboxembedded.com that I got from https://blackboxembedded.com/pages/contact-us?contact%5Bsubject%5D=Support&form_type=contact, is that the correct one?

The EU site seemed like a reseller only site which didn't seem like they can provide the kind of technical support I am looking for.

Even received an auto-response from support...@blackboxembedded.com

"

Thank you for contacting Black Box Embedded.  We will contact you as soon as possible.

While you wait check out the links at the bottom of this email to the WunderLINQ User Group and documentation.

[...]

"

Should I send it again?

[m “yipie!” s]

Hey Keith,

finally had the time to do some measurements with mainly two setups.

Setup 1:

"SP Connect Charging Anti Vibration Module" connected directly to the power socket of my bike.

Output: ~650mA - 680mA (avg. ~ 660mA)

Setup 2:

"SP Connect Charging Anti Vibration Module" connected to the accessory connector of the WunderlinQ X.

BT on phone OFF: ~ 705mA (min./max.:  680mA - 770m)

BT on phone ON: ~ 735mA (min./max.:   710mA - 780mA)

WLQ app in background: min./max.: 745mA - 760mA

WLQ app connected and running on phone: ~ 900mA (min./max.: 880mA - 910mA)

Since I don't know the internal circuitry of the WLQX that leaves me with the following best guess:

The WLQX must be consuming around 20mA - 40mA in idle state and around 200mA - 250mA in connected state.

Since the voltage on my power socket was a little bit higher (~12.15V) than the accessory connector (~11.9V) I am leaning towards ~ 20mA idle state and ~ 200mA connected state.

Hope that helps anybody in figuring out if they can integrate more accessories next to a WLQX on their bike.

Conclusion:
For my bike it's working. ZFE (central control unit) doesn't shutdown the gradle port and the SP Connect Charging Module is charging my phone.

Next step for me:

I already ordered one of those pigtails (found them on ebay within the EU).

As soon as I tested, soldered and connected everything, I will post another update.

Last questions:
Did you by any chance find my (lost?) support request or should I send it again?

Was it the correct mail address or should I send it to a different one?

Have a nice and relaxed sunday everyone :)