NWT compared to Diamond Llama

[Jacob Hirschmann]

Hi. Other than the “heavy option” and the wider tyre are there any other differences between the 2 above bikes?
Thanks
Jacob

J Hirschmann Insurance Consultants cc
FSP # 10407
P O Box 92089 Norwood 2117
Tel: 011 7866861

[Geof Gee]

I think the geometry might be different with a lower bottom bracket.  I have a fuzzy memory that says a NWT has three sets of water bottle braze-ons and a kick stand plate.  

-G

Arlington, VA 

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[robert clark]

I have a older  ('heavy rider' = oversize tube diamond frame  1.25" headset)   Llama,  {Front of tandem like, I suspect..}

you can not touch the ground even tippy toe sitting on the saddle ,  you have to get off to put a foot down..

  the new Diamond(frame) Llamas are not like that  BB lower,, 

New NWT has Silk option for belt drive,   because BB is part of rear portion   

 Llama continues to need a chain tensioner, due to hinge behind BB on frame for IGH..

[John Thurston]

On 2/4/2021 7:06 AM, Geof Gee wrote:
> I think the geometry might be different with a lower bottom bracket.

When I asked Bike Friday about this late* in 2020, they said all the
bottom bracket heights were now the same. As for other potential
differences, you should ask the manufacturer. They are easy to talk to.


* November or December
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Juneau, Alaska

[robert clark]

NB, in Pictures  of them now show, the rear frame tubes bend upward  from the fold hinge axis, to do that..  more BB drop.

where It's  straight back on the older Llamas.. As I see on mine..