Assessment and Planning Librarian
University of Massachusetts Amherst
I called the IPEDS help desk to ask why NCES is proposing the elimination of the Academic Library component. After speaking with a supervisor, the person helping me on the phone said that the IPEDS office also has no information on the “why” as of now and are waiting for NCES to send them more info. They took my information and said I would get an email if any kind of explanation were to be provided, so I can forward that to the listserv if I get anything, but I’m not sure if they are expecting to receive documentation beyond what is already posted on the regulations.gov page.
I would urge everyone to leave a public comment asking them to keep the AL component using the link provided by Sarah: https://www.regulations.gov/commenton/ED-2024-SCC-0040-0001. On Friday there were only 106 comments.
Joyce
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Hi all,
Is there a wishlist of comments you’d like us all to make? If we plan, we may be able to be more forceful and cover more ground w/r/t objections based on various reasons or factors.
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Hi,
These may not be representative ideas of the group, but in my comment I stressed that eliminating the Academic Library portion of the IPEDS survey suggests that our data is unimportant and doesn’t contribute directly to university education, as well as for those academic libraries who are members of ACRL or ARL, this data is already collected, so it is not an onerous task. I also mentioned that I would add our impact/outreach statistics to the survey.
-Julene
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Good idea Megan. Here are some of the most recent comments that have been submitted on the topic:
Please do not eliminate the Academic Library Survey. These data are used in program evaluation (e.g., see the appendix guidelines of the Standards for Libraries in Higher Education - https://www.ala.org/acrl/standards/standardslibraries), drive research on the impact of libraries (e.g., see my co-authored study here - https://crl.acrl.org/index.php/crl/article/view/16727/18650), and are the basis for learning activities in graduate studies in library science (e.g., in my course at UIUC iSchool, 594 EVO: Evaluation and Assessment of Library Services, students use this data set to learn about library services, complete a benchmarking assignment, and develop strategies for collecting data about library services. To loses access to an ongoing dataset on academic libraries will negatively impact library science graduate study, the operation of academic libraries, and research on the impact of academic libraries in higher education.
Eliminating the Academic Libraries (AL) Survey from the annual IPEDS collection would be a grave mistake.This decision would create an equity issue for many academic libraries and, more importantly, their students when they cannot afford to subscribe to costly data services that will otherwise collect this information. It is the only accurate source of information about academic libraries. Because it is tied to the IPEDS data collection cycle, all institutions respond to it. In addition, the data is freely available to everyone--academic library administrators, faculty, and students, who are the most critical stakeholders. Academic libraries rely on the IPEDS Academic Libraries (AL) survey for accurate comparative data to help them advocate for libraries that serve their students. Please do not eliminate the Academic Libraries (AL) Survey from the IPEDS data.
Scrapping the IPEDS Academic Libraries survey would have grim consequences for libraries and universities. This is a vital tool which is the only publicly accessible source of data about US academic library staffing and funding. Library administrators need the data that can be found in the IPEDS Academic Library survey to help them advocate for sufficient staffing and funding after decades of defunding of academic libraries. Since the costs of providing scholarly literature to universities are expanding exponentially, it is vital to the sustainability of academic libraries that they are funded adequately. Not every stakeholder can afford a subscription to the statistics collected by the Association of College and Research Libraries and their subscription agreement includes an indemnification clause that is a barrier for some interested parties. The majority of academic libraries are not members of the Association of Research Libraries and therefore do not have access to their statistics. The increasingly digital and seamless access to library resources has given rise to the false impression that libraries are no longer relevant, but this is far from reality. Libraries have been serving expanding numbers of students while our staffing and budgets have not increased to match.
Removal of the Academic Libraries survey for IPEDS could have negative impacts on academic libraries. Many libraries are already understaffed and underfunded and removal of academic libraries from data collection sends a message that library services and resources are not important. Research, teaching and learning, and information literacy are dependent on well funded, well staffed libraries with dynamic and responsive collections.
Academic libraries use IPEDS data for benchmarking and comparison. There is no other survey of academic libraries that collects this data, so eliminating the library portion of the IPEDS survey will mean that academic libraries no longer have access to the information that they need to compare themselves with other libraries at other institutions. Please do not eliminate the library reporting section of the IPEDS.
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Kathleen Kim Bell, MA MLS MS
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Here’s the response I got from the IPEDS help desk follow up email, just now. It says the reason they propose eliminating it is staffing and cost requirements. I think this refers to our time and staff – the part at the end of the component where you say how many people were involved in data collection and how many hours it took.
“Thank you for your call the other day. Our administrator was able to provide some information in regards to why the proposed removal of Academic Libraries may be happening.
The proposed changes to IPEDS for 2024-25 through 2026-27 were posted last week for public comment. Here's a link to the announcement in the TWII that went out: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnces.ed.gov%2Fipeds%2Fthis-week-in-ipeds%2F304&data=05%7C02%7CNHaynes_93280.contractor%40rti.org%7Cad91136a261345beb9ad08dc42a4fd55%7C2ffc2ede4d4449948082487341fa43fb%7C0%7C0%7C638458523595062630%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=iLn0%2Foi%2B4ThmqFzfZypr%2BaJvvQlwWz5dBo2EaPpu2wE%3D&reserved=0
One of the proposed changes is the elimination of the Academic Libraries (AL) survey. Due to staffing and cost requirements, the AL survey component is being retired after the 2024-25 data collection (proposed).
Details on the proposed changes can be found in the Supporting Documents posted on the regulations.gov website linked here: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.federalregister.gov%2Fdocuments%2F2024%2F03%2F04%2F2024-04509%2Fagency-information-collection-activities-comment-request-integrated-postsecondary-education-data&data=05%7C02%7CNHaynes_93280.contractor%40rti.org%7Cad91136a261345beb9ad08dc42a4fd55%7C2ffc2ede4d4449948082487341fa43fb%7C0%7C0%7C638458523595070390%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=pXA4gQ67mjV474vGJw1hfdhdLbx7QuxLTLxLU0q5xZk%3D&reserved=0 A summary of proposed changes to IPEDS in 2024-25, 2025-26, and 2026-27 are outlined in table 1 on the following page, along with information about the sources of the changes.
Other than this we do not have any additional information beyond what was posted in the OMB document of proposed changes. Please know that you can submit comments to OMB about any concerns, if you wish to do so.
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Sorry to join so late – I’ve been out!
I heard the news last week and immediately filled out the feedback form.
I’ve probably missed pieces of this conversation (which I just tried to catch up on), but for the record (and perhaps joining others in this way of thinking), I’ve been contemplating this:
In addition to the visibility of library data (and therefore libraries), I’m concerned that removal of the library component of IPEDS will create inequities in data access. Libraries in ARL will continue to have ARL data (which only, of course, allows for apples-to-apples comparisons within the ARL universe). Libraries who submit to and are willing to pay for ACRL Benchmark will have that. Libraries who aren’t members of ARL and can’t afford Benchmark (now around $700/year) will have no free data source for comparative purposes.
I read the comment Martha shared with interest. To me the question then becomes, not whether IPEDS AL should continue (I think it should) but how can it be made minimally burdensome. And – perhaps – how can we create “canned” comparison tools aimed at libraries of all sizes and funding models.
Hope this perspective adds something and isn’t redundant with multiple other posts!
😊
Best,
Susanna
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SUSANNA M. COWAN PHD MLS
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One more for the road, as they say…
I know that one of the reasons being cited for the proposed end to the AL (Academic Libraries) component of IPEDS is # staff/staff hours devoted to gathering data.
Having just this morning calculated numbers for our Institutional Research (IR) office (using the txt files generated by the ACRL survey), I realized that there could be many approaches to answering the question about staff & staff time. As we all know (well), a question that can be interpreted in multiple ways can diminish confidence in apples-to-apples comparisons (or any “total apples” number).
In previous years, I’ve considered that question in terms of how many “reporters” come up with the data – that is, I’m thinking about the data cycle and the people who have to set aside time to pull/calculate numbers for expenditure, collections, etc.
But that’s to generate the data “behind” IPEDS. I’m not asking reporters to submit to IPEDS – I’m asking them to give me data for ACRL, which I can then use to calculate IPEDS. If I’m just thinking Library staff time devoted to calculating IPEDS alone (by combining what we submit for Main + Law + Health) – then the “staff” = just one, that is: me.
Also – our IR office asks me to answer that question for the AL component – but I imagine somewhere else the IR office might just consider people/time on their end. Or perhaps some places combine the two (library people/time + IR people/time).
All to say – I wonder about the range of interpretations out there and how that might be telling a story about the “cost” of reporting this data that isn’t (or is?) accurate.
Wishing you well from CT,
Susanna
Can I just say (as one of those posters): BRAVO for your comments. Well-articulated and to the point, Laura!
I know I advocated IPEDS as the only “freely available” data repository, but in doing so I probably over-minimized the labor involved (i.e. it’s not really free).
In all honesty, I also see IPEDS mostly in terms of
potential data, rather than in terms of a resource I use regularly. Many more “assessment librarians” are doing metrics & assessment work while wearing one or more other hats than there are staff members (like me) with library assessment in their titles.
And speaking as someone who’s aware of the great luxury I have in being able to “think library assessment” all the time – there are many, many (many) things I don’t get to every year because I don’t have the time to do it all. Reporting internally (including
fancy or not fancy dashboards and updating my internal website with current and x-year tables/pictures) is one of those “should’s” that seems always to take a backseat to a to-do list with lots of “now” things on it.
So thank you. Thank you so much for taking the time to write so thoughtfully and impactfully.
Susanna
UConn