Can we get behind this label?
Terry Golightly
David Eveland
On Aug 24, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Terry Golightly <golig...@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to get to this message that shows on hover over a Lessons page to modify it to good purpose (like providing the student a short description of the page)?
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David Eveland
In that case it would be great to surface it as a user editable interface. Is that covered in the most recent VPAT audit? (just curious)
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From: Terry Golightly <golig...@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, August 24, 2020 at 3:08 PM
To: David Eveland <DEve...@johnsonu.edu>
Subject: Re: [sakai-user] Can we get behind this label?
That would be read out, at least as per the MS accessibility information on providing screen tips for links in MS documents.
tg
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 3:06 PM David Eveland <DEve...@johnsonu.edu> wrote:
It appears as a title:
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From: Terry Golightly <golig...@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, August 24, 2020 at 3:01 PM
To: David Eveland <DEve...@johnsonu.edu>
Subject: Re: [sakai-user] Can we get behind this label?
Usually screen tips such as this are read out by the screen reader as a way of previewing the purpose of the link.
tg
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Stull, Tiffany (tls6u)
Hi all,
It sounds like a new (and IMO, undesirable) feature to display the tool’s short description on hover in the menu.
The description is intended for instructors/site administrators to get an idea of how they can use the tool when they are adding it to their site. It should not be showing up for students, and I think it is an accessibility issue if screen reader users are subjected to hearing it read for every tool as they navigate.
Jen Bethmann, has your team encountered the tool descriptions when navigating the menu?
Tiffany
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Does this directly affect how a screen reader reads the page?
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alan.regan
Stull, Tiffany (tls6u)
Hi Jen,
The “hover” in question is that the tool description, which is intended to tell instructors/site creators how they can use the tool in their courses (and not intended for students/members to encounter at all) is appearing when hovering over the tool name in the menu. For example, on Lessons, it might say “Transform your syllabus or other content into interactive pages.”
This information should never be visible or audible in the tool menu. IMO it’s a bug for it to be showing up, so I definitely don’t think we should “get behind this label”.
I’m wondering if, in your testing, you’ve encountered the tool descriptions when navigating the tool menu. If you have, we’ll need to create a bug jira to get rid of them there.
Thanks,
Tiffany
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The image did not come through the email string. Not sure which hover. Questions to ask are: Is there a way for keyboard-only and screen reader users to access the information in the hover? Is the hover going to be used for important information not found elsewhere on the same page?
Sincerely,
Jen Bethmann (M.S. ’17)
Web Accessibility Coordinator | Web & Interactive Communications (WEB)
Illinois State University
Old Union 224, Campus Box 6350
Phone: (309) 438-0706
Email: jbb...@ilstu.edu
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Stull, Tiffany (tls6u)
Hi all,
I’m forwarding Jen’s response to the list. Terry, could you please create a jira to remove this inappropriate label?
Thanks!
Tiffany
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Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 11:42 AM
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Subject: RE: [sakai-user] Can we get behind this label?
Tiffany,
Oh, I see. No definitely not behind. If it only said “Lessons” then it would be fine, because there is no new information being presented. But the extra helpful hints are hidden from keyboard-only and screen reader users. Just checked, it is in our v20 Sakai instance.
Sincerely,
Jen Bethmann (M.S. ’17)
Web Accessibility Coordinator | Web & Interactive Communications (WEB)
Illinois State University
Old Union 224, Campus Box 6350
Phone: (309) 438-0706
Email: jbb...@ilstu.edu
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