BELUG meeting Tuesday, April 8th, 2025 at 6:30pm
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Remember, Jon "maddog" Hall, and many other speakers, will be at the April
25-27th LinuxFest Northwest in Bellingham:
https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/
BELUG: Supporting Linux and open source for 21 years.
The next BELUG meeting is Tuesday, April 8th at 6:30pm.
The Zoom link, with password, is:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/131116407?pwd=OFkwZzZWMVhDdlhMTU91K2lOVkQvZz09
Meeting ID: 131 116 407
Passcode: 117647
The in-person location is at the North Bellevue Community Center:
North Bellevue Community Center
4063 148th Ave NE
Bellevue, WA. 98007
Please come early to help set up the room.
The meeting will follow our usual format with introductions all around,
collecting technical questions to answer later, then any presentations,
and finishing with our best answers to your technical questions.
In March we discussed these topics:
Smoothwall firewall:
https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/
AI training using copyright material:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/03/openai-urges-trump-either-settle-ai-copyright-debate-or-lose-ai-race-to-china/
I get a newletter from Daniel Miessler, a security and AI investigator:
https://newsletter.danielmiessler.com/p/ul-475
A few comments on these general linux distributions and apps:
https://linuxmint.com/
https://mxlinux.org/
https://gnucash.org/
https://nmap.org/ try nmap -p- to look at your local subnet
https://www.ventoy.net/
An AI generated transcript from the meeting is below.
We had a few more new people at this meeting, so welcome to BELUG.
Thank you for visiting.
We cover a wide range of topics and I hope you can attend our next meeting.
Thank you,
Steve Herber her...@herber.us cell: 425-281-0355
Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services
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*Meeting summary for BELUG (03/12/2025)*
*Quick recap*
The meeting covered various technology topics, including recent
developments in AI, copyright issues, and Linux operating systems.
Participants discussed personal experiences with Linux distributions,
firewall configurations, and tools for creating bootable USB drives. The
group also explored advancements in computer hardware, programming
languages, and upcoming tech events, while sharing resources for
learning about AI and cybersecurity.
*Next steps*
? Steve to send out meeting notes with links to resources discussed,
including Ventoy and Daniel Meisler's newsletter.
? All attendees to consider attending Linux Fest Northwest on April 25-27.
? Steve to follow up on sending money to Bob for badge renewal.
? Steve to investigate the new AMD video boards (7970 and 7990 XT) for
potential AI model running.
? Kevin to provide more details on the Pine Phone experience at a future
meeting.
? Emilio to explore installing Linux on old computers for students
during his 3-month teaching trip to Italy.
? Steve to continue researching and sharing updates on AI developments
and tools with the group.
*Summary*
*AI Copyright Cases and Mobile OS*
Steve leads a meeting with several participants, including Kevin, Randy,
Sanjiv, and others. Kevin mentions that there are three more people in
the room with him, including Alex, Tom Jenkins, and Mary. The group
discusses recent developments in AI, particularly copyright cases
involving Facebook, OpenAI, and Github. Kevin notes that Facebook may
need to start their AI model from scratch due to a lost copyright case.
Steve brings up the topic of copyright issues related to the Internet
Archive. Kevin shares that he has a family tree dating back to 579,
recorded on wood panels in a church. The group also briefly discusses
alternative mobile phone operating systems, with Kevin mentioning plans
to try a Pine Phone.
*Kevin's Linux Learning and Installation*
Kevin expressed his interest in learning more about Linux and sought the
group's help in his learning process. He shared his experience with
installing Puppy Linux on an old computer and his plan to try out other
versions. Steve recommended keeping the dual-boot computer aside for
testing and suggested Tom Lambert as a good resource for learning about
Puppy Linux. Kevin also shared his intention to install Linux on old
computers to give to students, aiming to reduce electronic waste. Randy
offered to provide further suggestions.
*Exploring Ventoy and Linux Distributions*
Steve demonstrates how to use Ventoy, a tool for creating bootable USB
drives with multiple Linux distributions. He explains that Ventoy allows
users to easily test different Linux versions without full installation.
Steve also discusses Distrowatch, a website that ranks Linux
distributions, and shows how to access information about various
distributions. The group explores reasons for the existence of numerous
Linux versions, attributing it to different goals, hardware
requirements, and developer interests. Kevin expresses interest in
learning more about Linux, having tried a few distributions already.
*Steve's Firewall Setup and Testing*
Steve discusses his experience with running AI models locally and his
efforts to improve his home firewall setup. He explains his use of
Shorewall, a firewall software, and shows various configuration files
including interfaces, zones, policies, and rules. Steve demonstrates how
he controls traffic flow between different network interfaces and zones,
including cable, fiber, and business connections. He also shares a
recent improvement that allows his internal "why you no" host to send
traffic out to the internet through the cable connection. When asked
about firewall testing, Steve mentions using nmap for port scanning.
*AI Developments and Automation Tools*
Steve discusses his interest in AI and shares information about new
developments in computer technology. He mentions a new AMD board with
16GB of memory in the $500-600 range that could boost AI capabilities.
Steve also talks about efforts to incorporate Rust into the Linux kernel
for improved memory safety, and a new version of C that aims to be
memory safe. He shares information about Daniel Meisler's newsletter on
AI and cybersecurity, as well as a course on building personal AI
infrastructure. Tom reminds the group about the upcoming Linux Fest
Northwest event in April. Gerald notes that AMD has caught up with
NVIDIA in AI chip technology. The meeting concludes with a brief
discussion of automation tools for business processes.
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25-27th LinuxFest Northwest in Bellingham:
https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/
BELUG: Supporting Linux and open source for 21 years.
The next BELUG meeting is Tuesday, April 8th at 6:30pm.
The Zoom link, with password, is:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/131116407?pwd=OFkwZzZWMVhDdlhMTU91K2lOVkQvZz09
Meeting ID: 131 116 407
Passcode: 117647
The in-person location is at the North Bellevue Community Center:
North Bellevue Community Center
4063 148th Ave NE
Bellevue, WA. 98007
Please come early to help set up the room.
The meeting will follow our usual format with introductions all around,
collecting technical questions to answer later, then any presentations,
and finishing with our best answers to your technical questions.
In March we discussed these topics:
Smoothwall firewall:
https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/
AI training using copyright material:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/03/openai-urges-trump-either-settle-ai-copyright-debate-or-lose-ai-race-to-china/
I get a newletter from Daniel Miessler, a security and AI investigator:
https://newsletter.danielmiessler.com/p/ul-475
A few comments on these general linux distributions and apps:
https://linuxmint.com/
https://mxlinux.org/
https://gnucash.org/
https://nmap.org/ try nmap -p- to look at your local subnet
https://www.ventoy.net/
An AI generated transcript from the meeting is below.
We had a few more new people at this meeting, so welcome to BELUG.
Thank you for visiting.
We cover a wide range of topics and I hope you can attend our next meeting.
Thank you,
Steve Herber her...@herber.us cell: 425-281-0355
Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Meeting Summary for BELUG
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 03:12:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: Meeting Summary with AI Companion <no-r...@zoom.us>
<https://zoom.com>
Meeting summary with AI Companion now supports additional languages in
preview. Learn More
<https://support.zoom.com/hc/en/article?id=zm_kb&sysparm_article=KB0058013#languages>
*Meeting summary for BELUG (03/12/2025)*
*Quick recap*
The meeting covered various technology topics, including recent
developments in AI, copyright issues, and Linux operating systems.
Participants discussed personal experiences with Linux distributions,
firewall configurations, and tools for creating bootable USB drives. The
group also explored advancements in computer hardware, programming
languages, and upcoming tech events, while sharing resources for
learning about AI and cybersecurity.
*Next steps*
? Steve to send out meeting notes with links to resources discussed,
including Ventoy and Daniel Meisler's newsletter.
? All attendees to consider attending Linux Fest Northwest on April 25-27.
? Steve to follow up on sending money to Bob for badge renewal.
? Steve to investigate the new AMD video boards (7970 and 7990 XT) for
potential AI model running.
? Kevin to provide more details on the Pine Phone experience at a future
meeting.
? Emilio to explore installing Linux on old computers for students
during his 3-month teaching trip to Italy.
? Steve to continue researching and sharing updates on AI developments
and tools with the group.
*Summary*
*AI Copyright Cases and Mobile OS*
Steve leads a meeting with several participants, including Kevin, Randy,
Sanjiv, and others. Kevin mentions that there are three more people in
the room with him, including Alex, Tom Jenkins, and Mary. The group
discusses recent developments in AI, particularly copyright cases
involving Facebook, OpenAI, and Github. Kevin notes that Facebook may
need to start their AI model from scratch due to a lost copyright case.
Steve brings up the topic of copyright issues related to the Internet
Archive. Kevin shares that he has a family tree dating back to 579,
recorded on wood panels in a church. The group also briefly discusses
alternative mobile phone operating systems, with Kevin mentioning plans
to try a Pine Phone.
*Kevin's Linux Learning and Installation*
Kevin expressed his interest in learning more about Linux and sought the
group's help in his learning process. He shared his experience with
installing Puppy Linux on an old computer and his plan to try out other
versions. Steve recommended keeping the dual-boot computer aside for
testing and suggested Tom Lambert as a good resource for learning about
Puppy Linux. Kevin also shared his intention to install Linux on old
computers to give to students, aiming to reduce electronic waste. Randy
offered to provide further suggestions.
*Exploring Ventoy and Linux Distributions*
Steve demonstrates how to use Ventoy, a tool for creating bootable USB
drives with multiple Linux distributions. He explains that Ventoy allows
users to easily test different Linux versions without full installation.
Steve also discusses Distrowatch, a website that ranks Linux
distributions, and shows how to access information about various
distributions. The group explores reasons for the existence of numerous
Linux versions, attributing it to different goals, hardware
requirements, and developer interests. Kevin expresses interest in
learning more about Linux, having tried a few distributions already.
*Steve's Firewall Setup and Testing*
Steve discusses his experience with running AI models locally and his
efforts to improve his home firewall setup. He explains his use of
Shorewall, a firewall software, and shows various configuration files
including interfaces, zones, policies, and rules. Steve demonstrates how
he controls traffic flow between different network interfaces and zones,
including cable, fiber, and business connections. He also shares a
recent improvement that allows his internal "why you no" host to send
traffic out to the internet through the cable connection. When asked
about firewall testing, Steve mentions using nmap for port scanning.
*AI Developments and Automation Tools*
Steve discusses his interest in AI and shares information about new
developments in computer technology. He mentions a new AMD board with
16GB of memory in the $500-600 range that could boost AI capabilities.
Steve also talks about efforts to incorporate Rust into the Linux kernel
for improved memory safety, and a new version of C that aims to be
memory safe. He shares information about Daniel Meisler's newsletter on
AI and cybersecurity, as well as a course on building personal AI
infrastructure. Tom reminds the group about the upcoming Linux Fest
Northwest event in April. Gerald notes that AMD has caught up with
NVIDIA in AI chip technology. The meeting concludes with a brief
discussion of automation tools for business processes.
AI-generated content may be inaccurate or misleading. Always check for
accuracy.
Please rate the accuracy of this summary.
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