BELUG meeting Tuesday, May 13th, 2025 at 6:30pm
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The next BELUG meeting is Tuesday, May 13th at 6:30pm.
The Zoom link, with password, is:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/131116407?pwd=OFkwZzZWMVhDdlhMTU91K2lOVkQvZz09
Meeting ID: 131 116 407
Passcode: 117647
The in-person location is at the North Bellevue Community Center:
North Bellevue Community Center
4063 148th Ave NE
Bellevue, WA. 98007
Please come early to help set up the room.
Kevin will be hosting this meeting. Thank you Kevin.
The meeting will follow our usual format with introductions all around,
collecting technical questions to answer later, then any presentations,
and finishing with our best answers to your technical questions.
In April we discussed:
LinuxfestNW 2025:
https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/
Alternate OS's:
AcreetionSO: https://github.com/AcreetionOS-Linux
ReactOS: https://reactos.org/
OS/2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
HAiku OS: https://www.haiku-os.org/
serenityOS: https://serenityos.org/
Plan 9: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs
Red Star OS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS
I did a demo of yunohost: https://yunohost.org/
and a bit on bash command line editing:
https://www.gnu.org/s/bash/manual/html_node/Command-Line-Editing.html
The AI generated transcript from the meeting is below.
We cover a wide range of topics and I hope you can attend our next meeting.
Thank you,
Steve Herber her...@herber.us cell: 425-281-0355
Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services
Meeting Summary for BELUG
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 03:20:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: Meeting Summary with AI Companion <no-r...@zoom.us>
Meeting summary for BELUG (04/09/2025)
Quick recap
Steve discussed his interactions with Katie, his efforts to switch to Alpine
Linux, and his interest in learning more about minor differences between shells.
He also shared his knowledge on various command-line techniques and tools,
focusing on Vi mode in Bash and the Ed text editor. The group also discussed
alternative operating systems, Jerry's recent port surgery and his need to
update his operating system and browser, and Steve's progress on a home Internet
server project using YunoHost.
Next steps
? Jerry to visit Bill to update his Netbook's operating system and browser.
? Randy to continue exploring and testing Accretion OS and React OS as potential
Windows alternatives.
? Steve to continue working on the home Internet server project using YunoHost.
? Steve to further investigate and potentially implement AI tools for the home
server, particularly exploring open-source options like Open WebUI.
? Steve to continue working on replacing the nouveau drivers with NVIDIA drivers
for his GPU setup.
Summary
Steve's Shell and Alpine Linux
Steve discussed his recent interactions with a woman named Katie, who was
pursuing a scholarship in car hacking despite her background in biology. Steve
also mentioned his efforts to switch to Alpine Linux for his server, which he
found useful for its small size and compatibility. The team also discussed the
differences between various shells, with Steve sharing his experience with Fish
and Csh. The conversation ended with Steve expressing his interest in learning
more about the minor differences between shells.
Vi Mode in Bash and Ed
Steve discusses various command-line techniques and tools, focusing on Vi mode
in Bash and the Ed text editor. He explains how to use Vi commands in Bash by
starting with the escape key, which puts the user in command mode. Steve
demonstrates how to use the 'V' command to open the current command in a full Vi
editor. He also covers the Ed editor, showing basic commands and explaining its
historical significance. Steve touches on sed and awk, mentioning their origins
in Ed and their usefulness for text processing. Throughout the discussion, Steve
provides practical examples and tips for efficient command-line usage, including
history commands and the readline library.
Jerry's Linux Upgrade and Home Network
Jerry reports that he recently had port surgery and was not mobile for a while.
He is currently using a netbook running Debian 7.8 32-bit, which is no longer
supported, and needs to update his operating system and browser. Jerry plans to
visit Bill to get help installing a new OS on his netbook. He also mentions
having other computers at home running different Linux distributions. Jerry
discusses setting up a smart TV with his Linux desktop and creating a guest
network for visitors at home. The group briefly talks about protecting old
Windows machines, with some suggestions about using firewalls and proxies, but
no definitive solutions are reached.
Alternative Operating Systems Discussed
The group discusses various alternative operating systems, including Accretion
OS, ReactOS, OS/2, and Haiku. Randy mentions Accretion OS, a new Arch-based
Linux distribution designed to be an alternative to Windows 10 and 11. They also
discuss ReactOS, which aims to be compatible with Windows NT applications and
drivers. Randy suggests that ReactOS might be a good option for users who need
to run Windows on old hardware. The conversation touches on other historical
operating systems like OS/2 and Plan 9, as well as the history of Unix and
related lawsuits. Randy still recommends Linux Mint for users transitioning from
Windows to Linux.
YunoHost Home Internet Server Demo
Steve demonstrates his progress on a home Internet server project using
YunoHost, a web-based application platform. He shows the user interface, which
includes features like user management, application installation, and system
diagnostics. Steve highlights the ease of use and the ability to restrict access
to specific users. He also discusses domain management, explaining how he uses
Cloudflare for domain registration and DNS services. The conversation touches on
various technical aspects such as port accessibility, email configuration, and
system backups. Steve mentions his interest in running AI tools locally and
briefly discusses using Proxmox for virtualization. The meeting concludes with a
brief mention of AI coding tools and Steve's efforts to set up an Nvidia GPU for
AI tasks.
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The next BELUG meeting is Tuesday, May 13th at 6:30pm.
The Zoom link, with password, is:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/131116407?pwd=OFkwZzZWMVhDdlhMTU91K2lOVkQvZz09
Meeting ID: 131 116 407
Passcode: 117647
The in-person location is at the North Bellevue Community Center:
North Bellevue Community Center
4063 148th Ave NE
Bellevue, WA. 98007
Please come early to help set up the room.
Kevin will be hosting this meeting. Thank you Kevin.
The meeting will follow our usual format with introductions all around,
collecting technical questions to answer later, then any presentations,
and finishing with our best answers to your technical questions.
In April we discussed:
LinuxfestNW 2025:
https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/
Alternate OS's:
AcreetionSO: https://github.com/AcreetionOS-Linux
ReactOS: https://reactos.org/
OS/2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
HAiku OS: https://www.haiku-os.org/
serenityOS: https://serenityos.org/
Plan 9: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs
Red Star OS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS
I did a demo of yunohost: https://yunohost.org/
and a bit on bash command line editing:
https://www.gnu.org/s/bash/manual/html_node/Command-Line-Editing.html
The AI generated transcript from the meeting is below.
We cover a wide range of topics and I hope you can attend our next meeting.
Thank you,
Steve Herber her...@herber.us cell: 425-281-0355
Software Engineer, UW Medicine, IT Services
Meeting Summary for BELUG
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 03:20:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: Meeting Summary with AI Companion <no-r...@zoom.us>
Meeting summary for BELUG (04/09/2025)
Quick recap
Steve discussed his interactions with Katie, his efforts to switch to Alpine
Linux, and his interest in learning more about minor differences between shells.
He also shared his knowledge on various command-line techniques and tools,
focusing on Vi mode in Bash and the Ed text editor. The group also discussed
alternative operating systems, Jerry's recent port surgery and his need to
update his operating system and browser, and Steve's progress on a home Internet
server project using YunoHost.
Next steps
? Jerry to visit Bill to update his Netbook's operating system and browser.
? Randy to continue exploring and testing Accretion OS and React OS as potential
Windows alternatives.
? Steve to continue working on the home Internet server project using YunoHost.
? Steve to further investigate and potentially implement AI tools for the home
server, particularly exploring open-source options like Open WebUI.
? Steve to continue working on replacing the nouveau drivers with NVIDIA drivers
for his GPU setup.
Summary
Steve's Shell and Alpine Linux
Steve discussed his recent interactions with a woman named Katie, who was
pursuing a scholarship in car hacking despite her background in biology. Steve
also mentioned his efforts to switch to Alpine Linux for his server, which he
found useful for its small size and compatibility. The team also discussed the
differences between various shells, with Steve sharing his experience with Fish
and Csh. The conversation ended with Steve expressing his interest in learning
more about the minor differences between shells.
Vi Mode in Bash and Ed
Steve discusses various command-line techniques and tools, focusing on Vi mode
in Bash and the Ed text editor. He explains how to use Vi commands in Bash by
starting with the escape key, which puts the user in command mode. Steve
demonstrates how to use the 'V' command to open the current command in a full Vi
editor. He also covers the Ed editor, showing basic commands and explaining its
historical significance. Steve touches on sed and awk, mentioning their origins
in Ed and their usefulness for text processing. Throughout the discussion, Steve
provides practical examples and tips for efficient command-line usage, including
history commands and the readline library.
Jerry's Linux Upgrade and Home Network
Jerry reports that he recently had port surgery and was not mobile for a while.
He is currently using a netbook running Debian 7.8 32-bit, which is no longer
supported, and needs to update his operating system and browser. Jerry plans to
visit Bill to get help installing a new OS on his netbook. He also mentions
having other computers at home running different Linux distributions. Jerry
discusses setting up a smart TV with his Linux desktop and creating a guest
network for visitors at home. The group briefly talks about protecting old
Windows machines, with some suggestions about using firewalls and proxies, but
no definitive solutions are reached.
Alternative Operating Systems Discussed
The group discusses various alternative operating systems, including Accretion
OS, ReactOS, OS/2, and Haiku. Randy mentions Accretion OS, a new Arch-based
Linux distribution designed to be an alternative to Windows 10 and 11. They also
discuss ReactOS, which aims to be compatible with Windows NT applications and
drivers. Randy suggests that ReactOS might be a good option for users who need
to run Windows on old hardware. The conversation touches on other historical
operating systems like OS/2 and Plan 9, as well as the history of Unix and
related lawsuits. Randy still recommends Linux Mint for users transitioning from
Windows to Linux.
YunoHost Home Internet Server Demo
Steve demonstrates his progress on a home Internet server project using
YunoHost, a web-based application platform. He shows the user interface, which
includes features like user management, application installation, and system
diagnostics. Steve highlights the ease of use and the ability to restrict access
to specific users. He also discusses domain management, explaining how he uses
Cloudflare for domain registration and DNS services. The conversation touches on
various technical aspects such as port accessibility, email configuration, and
system backups. Steve mentions his interest in running AI tools locally and
briefly discusses using Proxmox for virtualization. The meeting concludes with a
brief mention of AI coding tools and Steve's efforts to set up an Nvidia GPU for
AI tasks.
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