Live demos

[Alan Robbins]

Hello group,

 

Anyone have links to some live demos of these glasses, especially if being done by a sighted user or at least a low vision user. I’ve listened to a demo where the sighted user compared the Meta glasses to the EchoVision glasses. Although the EchoVision glasses did better there was still quite a bit of hallucinations going on. My concern in listening to a totally blind user, such as myself, doing a demo is one could not tell if what one was hearing is correct. All help and input greatly appreciated. So far, I like what I hear and read about with these glasses.

 

Alan

 

[Roger R. Cusson]

Yes,

I am a blind assistive technology specialist here in Maine, I did a five part demo, which I’m going to put a dropbox link for, right here in this message. It is a zip file, with five individual tracks, illustrating all of the many of thefeatures of the glasses, from a blindness perspective.

Also, on the double tap broadcast/podcast, for the weekend of June 6, those folks have also aired my demo, which they edited into one cool 38 minute or so program.

Nonetheless, here’s the dropbox link to my five part demo.

Roger R. Cusson

Assistive Technology Specialist

Seeing Hands Enterprises - Lisbon, Maine

Website: https://rogercusson.com/seeing-hands-enterprises

TEL: (207) 353-5007

X/Twitter Contact: @rcusson

A quote to live by:

“Any program that works perfectly, simply hasn’t been tested properly!”

On Jul 3, 2026, at 2:56 PM, Alan Robbins <arobbi...@outlook.com> wrote:



Hello group,

 

Anyone have links to some live demos of these glasses, especially if being done by a sighted user or at least a low vision user. I’ve listened to a demo where the sighted user compared the Meta glasses to the EchoVision glasses. Although the EchoVision glasses did better there was still quite a bit of hallucinations going on. My concern in listening to a totally blind user, such as myself, doing a demo is one could not tell if what one was hearing is correct. All help and input greatly appreciated. So far, I like what I hear and read about with these glasses.

 

Alan

 

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[Tom Morrissey]

You will find a compendium of EchoVision resources here:

motobojo.github.io/EVG-Resources/

This includes quite a number of videos that are tutorials, reviews and interviews.

Tom M.

[Alan Robbins]

Roger,

 

Thanks, just had time to listen. I downloaded the POD cast where they put all five together. This was a lot more impressive than the last one I listened to. I am not sure of your level of vision but hoping it is at least some to comment on any hallucinations you picked up on. I’m sure the final release will keep improving. Thanks for doing this and post any further feedback.

 

Alan

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of Roger R. Cusson
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 3:10 PM
To: echovisio...@agiga.ai
Cc: EchoVision <echovisio...@agiga.ai>
Subject: Re: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

 

 

Yes,

I am a blind assistive technology specialist here in Maine, I did a five part demo, which I’m going to put a dropbox link for, right here in this message. It is a zip file, with five individual tracks, illustrating all of the many of thefeatures of the glasses, from a blindness perspective.

Also, on the double tap broadcast/podcast, for the weekend of June 6, those folks have also aired my demo, which they edited into one cool 38 minute or so program.

Nonetheless, here’s the dropbox link to my five part demo.

 

[Alan Robbins]

Tom,

 

Thanks for sharing. Over the next few days as time permits, I will definitely go over all of it.Are you testing the glasses and if so, how are you liking them?

 

Alan

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of Tom Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2026 1:10 PM
To: EchoVision Community Forum <echovisio...@agiga.ai>
Cc: Roger R. Cusson <ro...@rogercusson.com>; EchoVision <echovisio...@agiga.ai>
Subject: Re: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

 

You will find a compendium of EchoVision resources here:

motobojo.github.io/EVG-Resources/

This includes quite a number of videos that are tutorials, reviews and interviews.

 

Tom M.

 

On Friday, July 3, 2026 at 1:10:42 PM UTC-6 Roger R. Cusson wrote:

 

Yes,

I am a blind assistive technology specialist here in Maine, I did a five part demo, which I’m going to put a dropbox link for, right here in this message. It is a zip file, with five individual tracks, illustrating all of the many of thefeatures of the glasses, from a blindness perspective.

Also, on the double tap broadcast/podcast, for the weekend of June 6, those folks have also aired my demo, which they edited into one cool 38 minute or so program.

Nonetheless, here’s the dropbox link to my five part demo.

 

[Roger R. Cusson]

I have no usable vision, and in that particular set of demos, there were no hallucinations.

Hope you have a great day.

Roger R. Cusson

Assistive Technology Specialist

Seeing Hands Enterprises - Lisbon, Maine

Website: https://rogercusson.com/seeing-hands-enterprises

TEL: (207) 353-5007

X/Twitter Contact: @rcusson

A quote to live by:

“Any program that works perfectly, simply hasn’t been tested properly!”

On Jul 4, 2026, at 1:40 PM, Alan Robbins <arobbi...@outlook.com> wrote:



Roger,

 

Thanks, just had time to listen. I downloaded the POD cast where they put all five together. This was a lot more impressive than the last one I listened to. I am not sure of your level of vision but hoping it is at least some to comment on any hallucinations you picked up on. I’m sure the final release will keep improving. Thanks for doing this and post any further feedback.

 

Alan

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of Roger R. Cusson
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 3:10 PM
To: echovisio...@agiga.ai
Cc: EchoVision <echovisio...@agiga.ai>
Subject: Re: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

 

 

Yes,

I am a blind assistive technology specialist here in Maine, I did a five part demo, which I’m going to put a dropbox link for, right here in this message. It is a zip file, with five individual tracks, illustrating all of the many of thefeatures of the glasses, from a blindness perspective.

Also, on the double tap broadcast/podcast, for the weekend of June 6, those folks have also aired my demo, which they edited into one cool 38 minute or so program.

Nonetheless, here’s the dropbox link to my five part demo.

 

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[valiant8086]

Hi.

Yeah, the AI hiccups will affect these. The interesting thing is, for the most part, reading mode seems to be pretty solid. Live AI mode, and sceen description mode, both can glitch out and get stuff wrong sometimes, but it's not very common with these as far as I can tell. I've spent some time telling mom and dad what the scene description says and they confirm it accurate or otherwise. Of course when they say it's an Elderly lady sitting in a chair they're definitely wrong about how they're describing my mom 🤣.

Cheers:
Aaron Spears, AKA Valiant8086 General Partner at Valiant Galaxy Associates "we make (VERY GOOD AUDIOGAMES) for the blind comunity" http://valiantGalaxy.com

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[joseph hudson]

Hi Tom, I just wanted to let you know that the link that you posted has some pretty good resources in it but they're also older videos. And the giga channel has no videos on it.

[joseph hudson]

If anybody wants to see the video that Alan heard, I'm gonna paste it below. As I was the one that sent it to him until that everyone should definitely subscribe to Miss Erica for sure. And I will also report in this thread, that my glasses have shipped and I shall have them in my hands on Wednesday.

[mrsi...@sasktel.net]

Hi  Aaron,

 

As the sound  from the glasses is barely heard by others,  maybe your mom did not hear this hallucination.

 

Cheers,

 

 

Monte Single

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of valiant8086
Sent: July 4, 2026 2:00 PM
To: echovisio...@agiga.ai
Subject: Re: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

 

Hi.

[valiant8086]

Hi.

Well... I may have repeated what it said verbatim, 🤣

Cheers:
Aaron Spears, AKA Valiant8086 General Partner at Valiant Galaxy Associates "we make (VERY GOOD AUDIOGAMES) for the blind comunity" http://valiantGalaxy.com

[mrsi...@sasktel.net]

Hi Aaron,

 

I was not impressed with erica’s demo

She spent way too much time trying to get the glasses to  identify several bank notes at the sametime.

 

Sam Seavey of  This Blind Life, and Carrie of Carrie on Accessibility  demonstrate the products very well in less time.

You can find their reviews and demos on utube.

 

I got the meta ray-bans in late 2024 and the echovision in late 2025.

 

Yes, the echovision glasses cost a bit more, and they are  a superior product.

 

I’m  tooold to roll around on the floor;  it hurts too much to get up.

[joseph hudson]

Hi Monty, I looked at the dates on those interviews though like from carry on accessibility, her was done back in 25 so I'm kind of looking for something that's in the more up-to-date stage. That's why I felt like Erica's was more up-to-date.

[mrsi...@sasktel.net]

Joseph, I know Carrie has done  review of echovision within the last few months.

I’m a clutz   at finding things on utube.

It will take asharper knife than I to do this simple task.

 

Monte Single

[joseph hudson]

OK Monty, I will go and take a look. As I am a subscriber to her channel.

[mrsi...@sasktel.net]

Joseph, how do I subscribe to her channel.

I like her voice.

[joseph hudson]

Hi Monty, if you are listening to a video, navigate to the subscribe button. And then, if you're logged into a Gmail address, then you can subscribe by hitting the button.

[Amanda Lee]

I would rely upon Roger’s excellent presentation.

 

Although he didn’t demonstrate the outstanding capability of EchoVision with oCR in the initial demo I listened to, this is truly a shining feature of Echovision.

 

In terms of hallucinations with AI, this will occur with any smart glasses wearable.

 

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of Roger R. Cusson

Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 3:10 PM
To: echovisio...@agiga.ai

Cc: EchoVision <echovisio...@agiga.ai>
Subject: Re: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

 

 

Yes,

I am a blind assistive technology specialist here in Maine, I did a five part demo, which I’m going to put a dropbox link for, right here in this message. It is a zip file, with five individual tracks, illustrating all of the many of thefeatures of the glasses, from a blindness perspective.

Also, on the double tap broadcast/podcast, for the weekend of June 6, those folks have also aired my demo, which they edited into one cool 38 minute or so program.

Nonetheless, here’s the dropbox link to my five part demo.

 

[Gregory Nowak]

I got the distinct impression that Erica was going out of her way to
give meta the chance to do better, especially with the dollar
bills. She did not as far as I can tell put the bills on the table for
the echovision, or give the echovision extra lighting.

Greg

On Sat, Jul 04, 2026 at 04:55:59PM -0600, mrsi...@sasktel.net wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
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> She spent way too much time trying to get the glasses to identify several bank notes at the sametime.
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> I got the meta ray-bans in late 2024 and the echovision in late 2025.
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> Yes, the echovision glasses cost a bit more, and they are a superior product.
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> I’m tooold to roll around on the floor; it hurts too much to get up.
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> Monte Single

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[mrsi...@sasktel.net]

Yes, Greg, I concur with your remarks about Erica and her review of the differentglasses.

Monte Single

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From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
Sent: July 4, 2026 6:57 PM
To: echovisio...@agiga.ai
Subject: Re: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

[mrsi...@sasktel.net]

Hi Joseph,

 

Here is a utube link for a review of the echovision glasses  done in may of this year by Carrie On;

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxSdhsgP9bE

 

I would  give it a 7 or 8 out of ten, for both presentation and product.

 

Cheers,

 

 

Monte Single

[Ralph Boersema]

What do you all mean by hallucinations?

[mrsi...@sasktel.net]

Hi Ralph, the term hallucination is the polite way of saying that ai has made a booboo, big or small.

 

Example,  a while ago, I was using the meta ray-ban glasses and I said wht was in a canof food.

 

Meta saied it was purina irish stew.

In reality, purina does not make irishstew, it makes pet food.

And it was puritan irish stew .

Meta chose purina instead of puritan.

Meta was guessing and not paying attention to what it was actually looking at.

As  our old buddy, mr rogers would say, can we spell sloppy s l o p p y?

There is no hallucination;  it is poor performance!!

Meta glasses continue to have these halucinations even after a year and  a half of so-called updates.

 

As good queen bess would say, we are not amused.

 

Cheers,

 

 

Monte Single

[mrsi...@sasktel.net]

OK, that link was just for the unboxing.

 

There’s   more on utube.

 

Monte Single

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of mrsi...@sasktel.net
Sent: July 4, 2026 7:31 PM
To: echovisio...@agiga.ai
Subject: RE: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

 

Hi Joseph,

[Roger R. Cusson]

Greetings Amanda and list. There are  five parts to the demo in the zip folder. There is a reading mode demo, which is in fact the OCR. Amanda, you may have missed it.

Roger R. Cusson

Assistive Technology Specialist

Seeing Hands Enterprises - Lisbon, Maine

Website: https://rogercusson.com/seeing-hands-enterprises

TEL: (207) 353-5007

X/Twitter Contact: @rcusson

A quote to live by:

“Any program that works perfectly, simply hasn’t been tested properly!”

On Jul 4, 2026, at 8:27 PM, Amanda Lee <amandainp...@gmail.com> wrote:



I would rely upon Roger’s excellent presentation.

 

Although he didn’t demonstrate the outstanding capability of EchoVision with oCR in the initial demo I listened to, this is truly a shining feature of Echovision.

 

In terms of hallucinations with AI, this will occur with any smart glasses wearable.

 

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of Roger R. Cusson
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 3:10 PM
To: echovisio...@agiga.ai
Cc: EchoVision <echovisio...@agiga.ai>
Subject: Re: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

 

 

Yes,

I am a blind assistive technology specialist here in Maine, I did a five part demo, which I’m going to put a dropbox link for, right here in this message. It is a zip file, with five individual tracks, illustrating all of the many of thefeatures of the glasses, from a blindness perspective.

Also, on the double tap broadcast/podcast, for the weekend of June 6, those folks have also aired my demo, which they edited into one cool 38 minute or so program.

Nonetheless, here’s the dropbox link to my five part demo.

 

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[Buddy Brannan]

Hi,

As others have said, hallucinations will probably always be a thing with AI, as it aims to please, and tries to fill in the gaps, which sometimes leads to wrong conclusions. We of course do everything we can to minimize hallucinations, but it will never be 100%. As they say, trust but verify. 

It’s also important to note, and I think that likely especially congenitally blind people should be mindful of this (I know because I are one, and I have to remind myself too), that working eyeballs are also not 100%. humans “hallucinate” things all the time. Eyewitness accounts are often wrong and often disagree with each other. Color is even subjective, even aside from things like red/green colorblindness. What people see as color can change with lighting and what not. We won’t even talk about people who don’t know their right from their left. No matter how much sighted people try to convince us of this, sight is not the all powerful, all knowing, all flowers and candy, 100% reliable sense that we are programmed to believe it is. Of course, that isn’t to say that human eyeballs hallucinate the same way AI does, because they don’t. But I do believe that blind humans sometimes overestimate what sight is, what it provides, and where it might fall short. Just an observation. 

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Customer And Technical Support Monkey

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[Carlo Sist]

Dear Roger, 

I sent you a private email so as not to be off topic in the thread here. 

Can you check if you received it or maybe it ended up in spam? 

Thanks. 

Carlo

[Roger R. Cusson]

I was able to receive your email from yesterday.

Roger R. Cusson

Assistive Technology Specialist

Seeing Hands Enterprises - Lisbon, Maine

Website: https://rogercusson.com/seeing-hands-enterprises

TEL: (207) 353-5007

X/Twitter Contact: @rcusson

A quote to live by:

“Any program that works perfectly, simply hasn’t been tested properly!”

On Jul 5, 2026, at 4:17 AM, Carlo Sist <sist....@gmail.com> wrote:



[Gregory Hinote]

Rogers demo was excellent and will give you a good look at what these glasses can do and its potential as AGIGA continues to update the device.  Shaun of the Double Tap Canada cast also did a great presentation of Rogers demo.

[Alan Robbins]

Thanks, since that POD cast is a daily one, any idea on when Shawn’s demo was?

 

A;an

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of Gregory Hinote

Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2026 11:48 AM
To: EchoVision Community Forum <echovisio...@agiga.ai>

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[joseph hudson]

Monty, that's the video that I listened to yesterday. That was just an unboxing video pretty much yeah I give it the same thing. She does have a Q&A video that's made for members only so I'm thinking of maybe purchasing a membership to her channel and watching that video. Might do that at the end of the month this month, but I'm also planning on going to the office hours presentation and one other thing that a giga is having for these glasses this month as well. So looking forward to seeing anybody there that wishes to come in and join us. Once you've purchased the glasses.

[joseph hudson]

I'm subscribed to their channel. I will go take a look at the double tap podcast as well. Thanks for the great recommendation.

[mrsi...@sasktel.net]

Joseph, Apologies for  the link.

I thought it was the full meal deal.

I know she has done one recently, as in the last few months.

[joseph hudson]

Oh Monty, no problem. It's all OK.

[Ralph Boersema]

Dear Roger,

 

Your demos were very good! I wonder if you can tell me more about what EchoVision can do regarding reading. I have not yet ordered glasses, since my income comes from Canada and the exchange rate between the Canadian and American dollars is currently very unfavorable for me. Let me describe a possible scenario that I envision and tell me whether EchoVision can do this.

 

I have it read a page of a newspaper, but don’t want it to read everything:

“Read only all headlines.”

“Read article about inflation.”

“Stop reading.”

Set speed at 60%.

“Read first paragraph of article about inflation.”

Read next paragraph.”

“Spell name in the byline.”

 

While in reading mode, might I be able to ask general questions that AI such as copilot could answer. Suppose I am reading an article about politics in 1927, could I ask questions not covered in the article, such as, “To which party did the president belong? “

 

Warmly,

Ralph

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of Roger R. Cusson

Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 3:10 PM
To: echovisio...@agiga.ai

Cc: EchoVision <echovisio...@agiga.ai>
Subject: Re: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

 

 

Yes,

I am a blind assistive technology specialist here in Maine, I did a five part demo, which I’m going to put a dropbox link for, right here in this message. It is a zip file, with five individual tracks, illustrating all of the many of thefeatures of the glasses, from a blindness perspective.

Also, on the double tap broadcast/podcast, for the weekend of June 6, those folks have also aired my demo, which they edited into one cool 38 minute or so program.

Nonetheless, here’s the dropbox link to my five part demo.

 

Agiga EchoVision Smart-glasses Five-part Demo.zip dropbox.com

 

 

 

 

Roger R. Cusson

Assistive Technology Specialist

Seeing Hands Enterprises - Lisbon, Maine

Website: https://rogercusson.com/seeing-hands-enterprises

TEL: (207) 353-5007

X/Twitter Contact: @rcusson

 

A quote to live by:

“Any program that works perfectly, simply hasn’t been tested properly!”

 

[Roger R. Cusson]

You may, possibly, be able to do some or all of what you are describing, using the live AI mode, but you would have to experiment. The reading mode is going to read straight through. As that was what it was designed to do. Someone has a book, doesn’t wanna try to hold their phone a foot away from the Page and get their arm all tired, put on the EchoVision glasses, and read away. With live AI, it uses a different strategy, it will tell you what it sees, and you can interrogate it to your hearts content, realizing that you may occasionally get hallucinations or improper information that may sound accurate, so you can never be too sure with live AI, from any particular entity or company. But you might be able to do most of what you are trying to suggest with some trial and error, using the two presses of the AI button, rather than the three presses of the AI button. One press is seen description, two presses is live AI, three presses is reading mode. You would not know, until you tried the things you are trying to suggest, and then you would have a better understanding if your specific reading scenarios are possible. They do have a 30 day money back option on those glasses, should you find that they are not meeting your specific needs.

Best of luck, and I hope you’re able to get some amount of success whether it be complete success or at least more success than you are having now, by using these glasses.

Roger R. Cusson

Assistive Technology Specialist

Seeing Hands Enterprises - Lisbon, Maine

Website: https://rogercusson.com/seeing-hands-enterprises

TEL: (207) 353-5007

X/Twitter Contact: @rcusson

A quote to live by:

“Any program that works perfectly, simply hasn’t been tested properly!”

On Jul 6, 2026, at 10:07 PM, Ralph Boersema <ra...@refmail.net> wrote:



Dear Roger,

 

Your demos were very good! I wonder if you can tell me more about what EchoVision can do regarding reading. I have not yet ordered glasses, since my income comes from Canada and the exchange rate between the Canadian and American dollars is currently very unfavorable for me. Let me describe a possible scenario that I envision and tell me whether EchoVision can do this.

 

I have it read a page of a newspaper, but don’t want it to read everything:

“Read only all headlines.”

“Read article about inflation.”

“Stop reading.”

Set speed at 60%.

“Read first paragraph of article about inflation.”

Read next paragraph.”

“Spell name in the byline.”

 

While in reading mode, might I be able to ask general questions that AI such as copilot could answer. Suppose I am reading an article about politics in 1927, could I ask questions not covered in the article, such as, “To which party did the president belong? “

 

Warmly,

Ralph

 

From: echovisio...@agiga.ai <echovisio...@agiga.ai> On Behalf Of Roger R. Cusson
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 3:10 PM
To: echovisio...@agiga.ai
Cc: EchoVision <echovisio...@agiga.ai>
Subject: Re: [echovision-discuss] Live demos

 

 

Yes,

I am a blind assistive technology specialist here in Maine, I did a five part demo, which I’m going to put a dropbox link for, right here in this message. It is a zip file, with five individual tracks, illustrating all of the many of thefeatures of the glasses, from a blindness perspective.

Also, on the double tap broadcast/podcast, for the weekend of June 6, those folks have also aired my demo, which they edited into one cool 38 minute or so program.

Nonetheless, here’s the dropbox link to my five part demo.

 

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[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Ralph,

 

Don’t think anybody answered this or if so I missed it.

Hallucinations in the context of AI refers to the AI making things up, basically fantasizing.

I have had this happen numerous times in Live AI mode where I was walking along a sidewalk and the EchoVision glasses in Live AI mode told me a motorcycle or black SUV was passing me when in fact it was dead quiet with absolutely nothing passing me; I know this for sure because my wife was walking next to me and she is sighted and confirmed that there was nobody anywhere close.

Another time I asked Live AI if it could see any street signs and it said “Yes, I can see a sign which says Robson Street”. I live in Smithers, a small town in Northwestern British Columbia with a population of about 5,000. I know the town very well and I asked just for the fun of it because I knew exactly that I was at the corner of Main Street and 3^rd Avenue. There is not even a Robson Street in Smithers but there is in Vancouver which is 700 Miles away.

Those are AI hallucinations.

[Ralph Boersema]

Dear Seighard,

 

Someone else did answer this for me, but your answer is interesting because it points to hallucinations, where there seemed to be no confusion of one thing for something else.

 

Believe it or not, while I live on the state line between Virginia and Tennessee, I have been in Smithers several times, over 30 years ago, while I was still fully sighted. I have preached in the Canadian Reformed Church before they built the new building. My brother lived near Smithers for many years. He passed just a few years ago.

 

Warmly,

Ralph