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gregg boss
You can manually transfer a photo from your picture gallery on your iPhone and have it appear in the echo vision app. It's not automatic. While the app says you have so many photos that were taken with the glasses, it doesn't automatically transfer them.
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manually doing it follow these steps.
Open the photos app. then select the library button. From there, you can select the individual photos that you take with the app. Once you selected those, then you have to go to albums. Select the echovision Album.
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you then will have an ad button. Once you go to add, you can pick up the actual photos from recent and transfer them to echovision album. Once they're in that album they'll appear in the app.
Based on other apps that I have on my phone, this is not a modification to the glasses, but the app.
Gregg Boss
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Gregory Hinote
Hello Pioneer testers,
Below is my feedback from testing the Pioneer version glasses on December 26 after first receiving my glasses on December 18th.
This was my first extended outdoor use of the Pioneer glasses due to winter weather conditions here in Danville, Illinois. I specifically tested comfort and usability during a longer walk in my neighborhood.
I connected an external battery to evaluate comfort and practicality. I placed the charging brick and cable inside a zippered pocket of my 12-pocket Scott e hoodie, and this setup worked well while connected to the glasses. The angled end of the USB-C cable was a definite plus and helped reduce strain and cable interference.
During my walkabout, I completed approximately one hour and fifteen minutes of testing using both the AI Description mode and Live AI mode.
There is a definite learning curve when using the AI Description and Live AI buttons. When using the #1 button, I typically experience about an eight-second latency before responses begin. At times, the audio indicator output sound continues far longer than expected with no verbal feedback , requiring me to press the #5 button multiple times to stop the audio and submit a report.
When using the #2 button for Live AI sessions, there is also a learning curve in keeping the session active for follow-up questions. I suspect there may currently be a time limit in the Pioneer version, along with some latency.
Accuracy has generally been good, particularly with left/right orientation and clock-position responses. Most of my experiences with poor directional responses stem from my long-term use of Seleste glasses (nearly two years), as well as other AI models and my Meta Ray-Ban glasses.
With my Meta glasses, I am able to hear my iPhone VoiceOver audio through the glasses. Is it possible to enable VoiceOver audio through the Pioneer glasses as well?
I tested Live AI guidance by asking the system to guide me up my driveway and to my front door, and the guidance was accurate. I believe I will be able to use more precise prompts to fine-tune guidance scenarios as testing continues.
Text recognition has been good so far, though I plan to do additional testing in this area.
I currently have 13 media items on my glasses and some members have given a clunky obtrusive way to transfer files to the phone.
My meta glasses have a very short and sweet way to do this and I hope the Echo Vision team will adopt a similar sequence.
Learning the correct sequence to start with my home wifi and knowing when to switch to my hotspot was tricky at first.
I have found that I must switch to my hotspot when wanting to travel away from my home before leaving the wifi coverage area.
This means that I must connect to my Xfinity hotspot in my driveway before walking or riding in a car before leaving the driveway.
There should be a way to auto connect again like my Raybans.
Finally, I would appreciate clarification on which features are currently available for testing with the Pioneer version glasses (for example, Be My Eyes or other integrations).
At this early stage of testing, I am very satisfied with the progress and appreciate the opportunity to provide feedback. I look forward to continued testing and further improvements.
Best
regards,
Gregory Hinote
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Hi Gregory,
You mention using the echovision galsses in cool/cold weather.
While wearing the glasses outside, what was the ambient temperature?
I live in Saskatoon, the original Toontown, at about 52 dgreees north,
Cheers,
Monte Single
Jeffrey D. Stark
META RAY-BAND and OAKLEY VANGUARD: A YEAR AND A HALF WITH SMART GLASSES from a blindness perspective
If you're blind and considering smart glasses, you've likely heard the promises. After spending a year and a half using both the Ray-Band and Oakley Vanguard, I want to share what these devices actually do and where they fall short.
Ray-Band Gen 1 vs Gen 2
The original Ray-Ban Meta had significant battery limitations. You'd get approximately 2–3 hours of continuous use before needing to charge. The Gen 2 version addresses this with 8+ hours of battery life, making all-day use feasible.
The design does have a practical consideration: light enters from the sides of the lenses, creating reflections that some users find distracting or headache-inducing. The impact varies by person, but it's worth noting if you're sensitive to ambient light.
The Ray-Band has one programmable button. This single control option limits customization without accessing your phone's interface.
Oakley Vanguard: A Different Approach
The Vanguard uses a visor-style design rather than traditional eyeglass frames. This design keeps light from entering the sides, maintaining focus on what the front camera captures.
Battery performance is solid: like the Raymands gen 2 with 8+ hours with an additional 36 hours available through the charging case. This means you can maintain extended use throughout a day without searching for a power outlet.
The centered camera position makes a measurable difference when trying to focus on specific objects. It eliminates the fighting-with-angles problem you encounter with the raybands which have an off-center lens.
You get two programmable buttons on the Vanguard. This matters because you can assign one button to launch functions like Live AI mode without navigating menus. or verbalising a command which is a practical advantage for quick access.
The Vanguard is built with better weather and water resistance than the raybands, If you spend time outside in varying weather conditions, this durability translates to longer device lifespan and a better outdoor experience.
WHAT THE AI ACTUALLY DOES (AND DOESN'T DO)
After a year and a half of use, the AI capabilities are solid at specific tasks and limited elsewhere.
The AI provides accurate descriptions of scenes and environments. Walking into a room and asking "what's in here" returns useful spatial information. I've used it to locate an empty seat in a room when arriving at an unfamiliar space—practical, everyday use that actually helps.
The AI cannot read car license plates or extract text from medical labels. Rfusing to do so because it might give the impression of violating your privacy or the privacy of others. It struggles with extended text passages. If you need to read a document or multi-paragraph information, these glasses aren't the tool for that task.
Live mode has significant limitations with moving subjects. I attempted to use it during a Christmas parade to describe floats as they passed. The AI would lock onto a float and fail to update when I asked it to look again, even as new floats moved into view. My sighted daughter confirmed the glasses were stuck on outdated information rather than capturing current items. I ran into this same scenerio a # of times in other situations. This real-time tracking gap is substantial.
Finding specific objects can be unreliable. I've tried using the AI to locate elevators or doorways in buildings. Sometimes it works; frequently it doesn't. You cannot depend on it as a navigation tool.
Also, the AI performs less effectively at factual lookups and information retrieval compared to Google or Alexa. It's not designed as a general knowledge assistant; it's built for visual tasks.
After eighteen months, the distinction between marketing promises and actual capability is clear. These glasses won't replace your phone's camera and apps in all situations. They're useful for specific functions: getting environmental context without pulling out your phone, understanding room layouts, and quick scene descriptions.
Once you identify what these glasses do well for your needs, they become a practical addition to your toolkit rather than a revolutionary device.
Your choice depends on what matters most to you and how you'll use the glasses.
If - You want glasses that look like traditional eyewear. Ray-Band frames have a conventional appearance.
- You don't need extensive weather resistance. You'll be working with one programmable button and managing the side light reflection issue.
Vanguard is the better fit if light is a concern or you're outside frequently and need durability against weather conditions.
Aditionally, 2 programmable buttons give you meaningful functionality without accessing your phone constantly.
The centered camera position works better for how you interact with the glasses.
The trade-off is they look less like conventional glasses and they do cost more than the raybands.
A year and a half of use has taught me these are practical tools with clear strengths and limitations. The Ray-Band works if you want a less visible device. The Vanguard offers better construction and more control options.
No matter which set you are considering, go in with accurate expectations about what they can and cannot do. That's when they become genuinely useful.
Gene Warner
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I received my glasses a few days ago and have a few questions:
Is there a way to disable the automatic environment description that begins as soon as the glasses are powered on?
I am unable to log into Be My Eyes through the glasses, although the app functions normally on my iPhone.
What is the name of the recommended power pack that can be used to keep the glasses charged while wearing them, and where can it be purchased?
Is it possible to stream music from any apps through the glasses?
How can I update the email address associated with this mailing list?
Thank you,
Phil Templet
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Gregory Nowak
answers. I don't have the glasses, so I'll do the best to answer what
I can. Comments inline.
On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 09:14:21AM -0600, phil...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a way to disable the automatic environment description that begins as soon as the glasses are powered on?
feature. According to the user guide, you disable that by holding down
the AI button for a few seconds. You should have gotten a copy of the
user guide with the glasses. You can also view it at:
<https://echovision.agiga.ai/user-guide>
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> I am unable to log into Be My Eyes through the glasses, although the app functions normally on my iPhone.
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> What is the name of the recommended power pack that can be used to keep the glasses charged while wearing them, and where can it be purchased?
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> Is it possible to stream music from any apps through the glasses?
device, they will behave as headphones. So, you should be able to
stream to them from any app, just as you would to a pair of headphones.
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You're welcome. Hope that helps at least a bit.
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