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Hi Johnathon:
There are many of us who have already developed products that perform an action based on the “completed” status of H5P interactions (including the interactive video).
My vote would also support not changing this since it is a “staple” verb implemented in the many vendor supplied products and is a pretty standard verb across xAPI implementations.
If a vendor wants to write a statement indicating “watched all of the video” that verb can be masked in some products, yet still map to the actual verbs URL so the LRS record become more readable, but the verb would still actually remain “completed”.
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Subject: Re[2]: Video CoP Meeting on Dec 4th, 2017 Monday, 3:00 PM ET
Hey Jason,
Sorry to hear that. Hope you are doing okay.
Few things came out of the meeting:
1) I reviewed my group's progress on H5P. We have a partial implementation of the video profile complete and awaiting review from their core team. Lots of little issues, but the big one has to do with the 'completed' verb. They had the verb already and used it to define reaching the end of the video and they preferred not to change its meaning. I created a new verb called 'finished' to represent 'watched all of the video'. It's not ideal, but what we did. Some alternative options were discussed in the meeting. We can review next month.
2) Pablo Caballero joined the video profile meeting and mentioned he was building his own xAPI video collection tool using video.js. After he made some progress he found out about the Video CoP's tool. He is going to share what he liked about each of our implementations and where he saw issues. He and several other meeting participants mentioned reviewing that information together at the next meeting.
Considering the TAG due date, next week would be a better time for me to meet on a video profile article. Maybe Wednesday or Thursday?
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We are planning to add functionality that lets the author have more control over what e.g. "completed" means, but we do not have an ETA for that yet.'
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I'd warn against having two events that use the same verb with different meanings of "completed".
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In that case the 2nd event is not recording that you completed, because you'd already completed as marked by the first event. It's recording that you made additional progress.The same issue would exist with sending passed multiple times with different scores - that's likely to be confused with two separate passes with different scores. I wouldn't recommend that approach.
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Subject: Re: Video CoP Meeting on Dec 4th, 2017 Monday, 3:00 PM ET
Hi Guys! Sorry I missed this today. Had to attend a family funeral service. I'm available to meet some other day/time this week or next if you want to sync up on the video profile article / promotion.
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This is an invite for the xAPI Video Community of Practice Meeting on Dec 4th, 2017 Monday, 3:00 PM ET.
Welcome to all of you and your friends.
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Pankaj Agrawal
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Video CoP
Founder, Next Software Solution
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I'll have to take more time to dig into this more to come up with a specific suggestion, but in general I would encourage this group to as much as possible have the video profile document and extend existing practice, rather than defining new approaches.
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Hi Andrew,I agree that we should try to extend existing practice, however I see it this way, there are two conflicting existing practices1. For H5P (and probably many others) is to use "reaching the end of the video" as completion.2. For other non video activities, completion means actual completion of the activity.During two years of Video Profile development, we did not receive a single use case requirements from participating stakeholders who wanted to continue to use reaching the end of the video for completion. And everyone was excited of the possibility to be able to get real completion of video.Though we all agree that we "want" to use actual video completion for completed verb. We are mostly trying to strike a balance here between the existing flawed practice and the community proposed best practice which is not always easy to achieve.Pankaj
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