Help! Losing my USENET access. . .
Cliff Joslyn
I'm sending this to various newsgroups as I'm looking for information which
is probably widely distributed.
I will soon be moving to Binghamton NY to attend SUNY grad school. Their
computer center supports BITNET and CSNET, and they have a UN*X mahcine,
but are currently not supporting UUCP. I'm an experienced C/UN*X programmer,
but a novice to the black arts of UUCP, and am wondering what the best
method is for me to maintain my USENET access, both mail and news. I
thought I'd drivel on here about my thoughts on the matter.
I own a PC w/a modem, so I suppose I could grab the recent MSDOS UUCP
posting in comp.sources.misc and try to do it myself. I suppose this
would take a bit of hacking and heartache. Where else is this code
distributed, which version is best? Could I send news/mail this way?
Also, could I grab UUSLAVE, and is that read-only? Anyway, I assume my
costs would be lessened if I were to find a friendly UUCP site within a
local call and arrange for them to feed me news? How would I go about
finding one? How does all that work anyway?
Alternatively, I've heard of public access USENET in Cleveland, and uunet.
Am I correct that I could get news without special software from them,
although at a cost?
Also, I'm aware that there are BITNET/UUCP gateways, but I assume that only
supports mail, not news. Is there anyway to feed news through those
gateways?
Or, as I soon hope to establish friendly relations w/Cornell CS, perhaps I
could gain a login on some Cornell UUCP machine, and make the intermediate
distance call?
Finally, I suppose I could cajole the SUNY computer center into
supporting UUCP, but I assume that would be a major effort for them, and
presumably I'd end up as sysadmin, and there's more hacking and pain.
How would I go about doing this?
Any help would be appreciated, including addresses and numbers of those
more in the know, or who might be able to help me.
Thanks a lot.
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Dan Ehrlich
>...
>Also, I'm aware that there are BITNET/UUCP gateways, but I assume that only
>supports mail, not news. Is there anyway to feed news through those
>gateways?
The host psuvax1 is a UUCP <-> BITNET gateway. We gateway both mail
and NEWS. Actually we send the news to PSUVM and that host
redistributes it out on the BITNET. I am not familiar with the
software that is running on PSUVM, but you might try contacting Bill
Verity <W...@PSUVM.BITNET> at the PSU Computer Center. Bill is the keeper
of news on PSUVM.
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--Dan Ehrlich <ehrlich@psuvax1.{psu.edu,bitnet,uucp}>
The Pennsylvania State University, Computer Science Department
333 Whitmore Laboratory, University Park, PA 16802
+1 814 863 1142
David Herron -- Resident E-mail Hack
>
>supports mail, not news. Is there anyway to feed news through those
>gateways?
You can do news across BITNET ... I've been exchanging news with an
IBM mainframe (not running any sort of Unix on it either ... REALLY!)
in one case and a "pure" Vax cluster running "pure" VMS in another
case. I've been doing this for a couple of years now. The main trick
is to (if you can at all possibly arrange it) use some sort of encoding
between the machines because UREP (and possibly other software on
BITNET) munges certain kinds of characters. I've used compressed
atob'd batches without too much problem for a long time. 'twont
work if your neighbor is an IBM machine, but hey ... BITNET is cheaper
than long distance phone calls.
I think SUNY is on the "wrong" side of the CUNYVM-PSUVM link
for us to be able to feed you from here.
>Finally, I suppose I could cajole the SUNY computer center into
>supporting UUCP, but I assume that would be a major effort for them, and
>presumably I'd end up as sysadmin, and there's more hacking and pain.
>How would I go about doing this?
You said they have a Unix machine ... all it takes is for them to
read some manuals and understand how UUCP works. That's not terribly
hard to do ... Especially since they could take one of these PD UUCP
clones and hand that out to people to use on their home PC's ... :-)
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----- {uunet,cbosgd}!ukma!david, da...@UKMA.BITNET
-----
----- Je parle francais comme une vache espagnole.
John Diamant
> Am I correct that I could get news without special software from them,
> although at a cost?
That machine is called ncoast. I was one of the original people to set that
machine up for USENET access. I believe you could get an account on that
machine if you want. I think they're in the maps. You can send mail to
ncoast!root. If you want them to be a notes feed for you (which they would
probably be willing to do if you make the phone calls), you would need UUCP
software and notes software on your machine. You would probably be able
to find a closer machine to do that for you.
Disclaimer: I no longer use that machine and do not know if the situation
is still the same as when I was there.
John Diamant
TSBU UUCP: {hplabs,hpfcla}!hpfclp!diamant
Hewlett Packard Co. ARPA Internet: diamant%hpf...@hplabs.HP.COM
Fort Collins, CO
Karl A. Nyberg
> but a novice to the black arts of UUCP, and am wondering what the best
> method is for me to maintain my USENET access, both mail and news. I
> thought I'd drivel on here about my thoughts on the matter.
> Alternatively, I've heard of public access USENET in Cleveland, and uunet.
> Am I correct that I could get news without special software from them,
> Any help would be appreciated, including addresses and numbers of those
> more in the know, or who might be able to help me.
[Put on asbestos suit... SOMEBODY will call this crass commercialism...
Note - no smiley.]
Grebyn Corporation (that's more or less me at the moment) offers USENET
access along with timesharing services with VAX/ULTRIX. Multiple (3 at the
moment) 2400 baud phone lines; 24 hour per day availability; mucho disk
space (~600MB); most newsgroups (we don't get alt.* yet - anybody?);
available through the PC Pursuit network (under 202, while it's still
cheap); plenty of memory for any software development (10MB); GNU Emacs; 3 C
compilers (pcc, vcc, gcc); and special for the folks who don't believe in
Ada on UNIX, the Verdix Ada Development System - VADS. Kermit sources, the
IBM PC Free Library, and other random sources.
$25/month gets you 10 hours Connect, 1 hour CPU, and 1/2 MB disk quota.
Kermit, xmodem, etc. available for up- and down-loading files.
For more information:
Karl A. Nyberg
Grebyn Corporation
P. O. Box 1144
Vienna, VA 22180
703-281-2194
official internet ka...@grebyn.com (aka karl%greby...@seismo.css.gov)
unofficial (faster) grebyn!ka...@umd5.umd.edu
uucp {decuac,seismo,umd5,vrdxhq}!nam)
>| )
>|
Brandon Allbery
+---------------
| I own a PC w/a modem, so I suppose I could grab the recent MSDOS UUCP
| posting in comp.sources.misc and try to do it myself. I suppose this
| would take a bit of hacking and heartache. Where else is this code
| distributed, which version is best? Could I send news/mail this way?
| Also, could I grab UUSLAVE, and is that read-only? Anyway, I assume my
| costs would be lessened if I were to find a friendly UUCP site within a
| local call and arrange for them to feed me news? How would I go about
| finding one? How does all that work anyway?
UUPC sources are in comp.sources.misc; a uuencoded binary is in comp.binaries.
ibm.pc now.
+---------------
| Alternatively, I've heard of public access USENET in Cleveland, and uunet.
| Am I correct that I could get news without special software from them,
| although at a cost?
+---------------
If you're going to be in NY, try "crdos1", which is also public access UNIX.
We feed news to them and you can send mail through us if you can't find
another path. (BTW, thanks for the plug! ;-)
UUNET is probably not worth the money; it's cost-effective for the larger
sites, but ncoast would pay more than it does now! (Apologies to rick@uunet,
but finances are real.)
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Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc and comp.binaries.ibm.pc
{{harvard,mit-eddie}!necntc,well!hoptoad,sun!mandrill!hal}!ncoast!allbery
ARPA: necntc!ncoast!all...@harvard.harvard.edu Fido: 157/502 MCI: BALLBERY
<<ncoast Public Access UNIX: +1 216 781 6201 24hrs. 300/1200/2400 baud>>
** Site "cwruecmp" is changing its name to "mandrill". Please re-address **
*** all mail to ncoast to pass through "mandrill" instead of "cwruecmp". ***
Robert Sweeney
>If you're going to be in NY, try "crdos1", which is also public access UNIX.
>We feed news to them and you can send mail through us if you can't find
>another path. (BTW, thanks for the plug! ;-)
I got this from warble!wayne@killer. The original poster should be able
to find a suitable public-access site. 'dasys1' is primarily devoted to
news and mail.
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nixpub--> PUBLIC ACCESS UNIX (XENIX) SYSTEMS
(Please send additions, corrections, and feedback to warble)
Last d=wkdays
Contact k=wkends
Date Telephone # Sys-name Location Baud Hours
----- ------------ -------- ----------- ------- -----
08/23 201-752-2820 unirot ?? NJ 12 unknown
Heurikon - Unisoft SYS V, fee status unknown AKA Soup Kitchen
08/23 714-635-2863 dhw68k Anaheim CA 12 unknown
Unistride 2.1, 2nd line 714-634-1915, fee status unknown
08/23 212-879-9031 dasys1 NYC NY 12 unknown
Unistride - SYS V, multiple lines, fee $5/mo AKA Big Electric Cat
08/22 714-842-5851 conexch Santa Anna CA 3/12/24 24
XENIX 714-842-6348 (bbs) - 3/12 various limits fee $25/quarter XBBS
08/06 714-828-0288 alphacm Southern CA 12/24 24
286 - SCO-XENIX no fee, 60 minute daily limit, XBBS
08/02 301-540-3656-9 netsys Germantown MD 12 unknown
ALTOS 986(2) - Xenix, networked 240 meg, fee $5/mo
07/31 206-367-3837 eskimo Seattle WA 12 unknown
XENIX ? equip, multiple lines, subscription system, 1st 2 weeks free
subsequent use on sliding scale
07/30 619-444-7006 pnet01 El Cajon CA 3/12/24 24
BSD Unix, 3 lines, contributions requested, login: pnet id: new
some USENET, net email, multi-thread conferencing. Home of
P-Net software, mail to crash!bblue or pnet01!bblue for info.
07/27 216-781-6201 ncoast Cleveland OH 3/12/24 24
PLEXSUS 1st hour free, $2.00/hr prime, $1.00/hr non-prime
07/22 213-376-5714 pnet02 Redondo Bch CA 3/12/24 24
XENIX (also 213-374-7404) no fee, 90 min limit, login: pnet id: new
some USENET, net-work e-mail, multi-threaded conferencing
07/16 213-459-7231 stb Sta Monica CA 3/12/24 24
Tandy 16 no limits, no fee, Serial Tree bbs (home made), shell access
07/13 305-584-4440 pinn Ft. Laud. FL 3/12/24 24
IBM AT - Microport SYS V, multiple lines, fee $12/yr MAGIC BBS
07/12 303-632-4111 chariot Colo Sprgs CO 3/12 24
Convrgnt Minifrme - SYS V, multiple lines, fee $12/mo Picospan
07/12 217-529-3223 pallas Springfield IL 3/12/24 24
Convrgnt Minifrme, multiple lines, 200 meg Minnie bbs $25 donation
07/11 313-994-6333 m-net Ann Arbor MI 3/12 24
Altos 68020 - SYS III, limits unstated, fee for extended service
Picospan conference system, multiple lines, 160 meg
07/07 214-270-7810 pisces Mesquite TX 3/12 24
PC7300 - UNIX Sys V,BBS use 45 minutes per call UnaXcess bbs
Will trade shell access to remote access systems
07/06 214-824-7881 killer Dallas TX 3/12/24 24
3b2/400 - UNIX, no fee, various time limits, 4 lines 860 meg online
07/06 312-566-8909 ddsw1 Mundelein IL 3/12 24
286 - Mport guest usr 1 hr daily, fee extends use, ERACS/UX bbs
2400 bps for contributors($) on 312-566-8911/12 Authors of ERACS/UX bbs
07/06 312-272-5912 igloo ?? IL 12 unknown
PC7300 - UNIX limits unstated PicoSpan conference system
07/06 312-833-8126 vpnet ?? IL 12 24
equip unknown limits unstated ERACS/UX bbs
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List originated and maintained on:
08/02 214-250-1764 warble Plano TX 12/24 d 5pm-5am k 24
286 - SCO-XENIX, no fee, various time limits, bbs home brew
uucp: ... killer!warble!wayne CIS: 73205,1172
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Robert Sweeney {sun!hoptoad,cmcl2!phri}!dasys1!rsweeney
Big Electric Cat Public Access Unix (212) 879-9031 - System Operator
"You crossed my line of death!"
Jonathan Spangler
>In article <6...@rlgvax.UUCP>, cl...@rlgvax.UUCP (Cliff Joslyn) writes:
>
>
>> Alternatively, I've heard of public access USENET in Cleveland, and uunet.
>
>access along with timesharing services with VAX/ULTRIX. Multiple (3 at the
Along this same line, I have a friend at UH Manoa who is graduating and will
lose his USENET access as well. He is moving to Calif. Could some kind soul
please list public access USENET nodes in both NoCal and SoCal?
Much obliged,
--
Jonathan Spangler
UUCP: {ihnp4,vortex,dual}!islenet!jons
OPUS/FIDONET: Sysop@12/6 (HTCS BBS)
CompuServe: 71560,322
Samuel B. Bassett
Please don't forget:
08/22 415-332-6106 The WELL Sausalito CA 3,12,24 24 hrs.
VAX750; 4.xBSD; PicoSpan; free access to UNIX if you know how;
rn, mail, you-name-it; LARGE bbs community; $4/hr; also accessible
via Tymnet (additional $$/hr).
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34 Oakland Ave., San Anselmo CA 94960; (415) 454-7282
UUCP: {...known world...}!hplabs OR ptsfa OR lll-crg!well!samlb;
Compuserve: 71735,1776; WU Easylink ESL 6284-3034; MCI SBassett
Andrew Scott Beals
three dollars per hour of connect time.
We're accessable via Tymnet at $4/hr, off-peak (our cost). The peak
period is defined by your time zone.
You also may use 500kbytes of disk space free of charge (averaged
daily) per month. If you go over this, you are charged at the rate of
$20/megabyte for storage over 500kbytes (so if you average 501kbytes,
you'll end up paying a penny or two...).
Manuals are available for $3 per copy.
All prices are in U.S. dollars.
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Andrew Scott Beals
ba...@lll-crg.arpa or {lll-crg,hoptoad,hplabs,apple}!well!bandy