Visual Objects 2.7
Brian
The offical Visual Objects 2.7 Pre Sales page is now ready to take pre
orders. Credit Cards will NOT be charged until the product ships (as
always). The idea here is to get an idea of how many pre order we can get
on file to better estimate the demand for VO 2.7.
It's a good idea to get your order in ASAP, to show your support of Visual
Objects, and to insure yourself a good place in the cue (line). Last years
2.6
orders took us almost three weeks to ship. If we know in advance, we can
hire the appropate help facalitate these orders.
Please vist http://www.grafxsoft.com/vo27.htm to place your orders.
Thanks to those who have already placed orders . We currently have
orders for 2.7 from the following countries.
Germany
USA
Norway
Liechtenstien
The Netherlands
France
Italy
United Kingdom
Canada
Belgium
Argentina
Malaysia
India
Finland
Switzerland
Australia
Slovenia
Denmark
Israel
Poland
Portugal
France
Spain
Greece
Get your country on the list.......... "VO 2.7 the best version of VO ever"
We appricate the faith and trust that you have put in GrafX.
Thanks to all 2.6 users who have help to support the future of Visual
Objects.
For your local dealer check http://www.cavo.com
Camille Kater
You forgot Luxembourg in your list !
Camille
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Brian
> You forgot Luxembourg in your list !
Opps, sorry, how could I forget Luxembourg !
Wow people! It's been less then 2 hours that original message
was posted, already we have had more orders from
France
Belgium *
Germany
USA*
Mexico
Canada*
Austria
Russia
* Several Orders
Thanks again for your vote of support !
The VO Village (our forum) Rocks.
Brian
http://www.grafxsoft.com/vo27.htm
Jesus Zertuche
Gary Stark
Brian wrote:
> Camille and all,
>
> > You forgot Luxembourg in your list !
> Opps, sorry, how could I forget Luxembourg !
Have you been there?
I have, and I know the answer to the question, but my good taste (shut
up, everyone!) prevents me from provifing the answer. :)
> Wow people! It's been less then 2 hours that original message
> was posted, already we have had more orders from
>
> France
> Belgium *
> Germany
> USA*
> Mexico
> Canada*
> Austria
> Russia
> * Several Orders
Only one from Russia? Sounds like the good ole daze. <g>
--
g.
Gary Stark
gst...@RedbacksWeb.com
http://RedbacksWeb.com
Brian
"Jesus Zertuche..
>
> Please include Mexico...
Mexico *
> I placed my order for 3 upgrades
Muchas gracias.
We are on a roll, add in the last few hours !
Denmark *
Ireland
Brazil *
Brian
> Have you been there?
Nope .We do have an order from the first 100 from there.
Never been to Sydney either <g>
> Only one from Russia? Sounds like the good ole daze. <g>
I'm sure there will be more.
See ya
Brian
Gary Stark
Brian wrote:
> Gary,
>
> > Have you been there?
>
> Nope .We do have an order from the first 100 from there.
> Never been to Sydney either <g>
You need to cure that pronto!
> > Only one from Russia? Sounds like the good ole daze. <g>
> I'm sure there will be more.
I certainly hope so.
Phil McGuinness
mmm... You will love Summer here.. A bit like Florida with less humidy and
5-8%C hotter depending on the day.
If you visit I will pick you up in Sydney and I can take you to Nelson Bay
and Central Coast and the wineries.
Then you can see another fantastic country.
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
---
Alan Saunders
Alan
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Phil McGuinness
I wish... more work on than ever. But an excuse to have some time off would
be welcome sometimes.
==
SNIP[ Quick, organise a Devcon. <g> ]
At the Winery........ !!
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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Rob
Better still, come to the Sunshine Coast in beautiful Queensland! Fabulous
scenery, great restaurants, friendly people, cold beer and sunshine!
--
Rob Grattan
R&D Software Pty. Ltd.
Gary Stark
Phil McGuinness wrote:
> snip[ Phil seems to have some spare time ]
>
> I wish... more work on than ever. But an excuse to have some time off would
> be welcome sometimes.
> ==
> SNIP[ Quick, organise a Devcon. <g> ]
>
> At the Winery........ !!
I'll dribk to that. <g>
--
g.
Gary Stark
gst...@RedbacksWeb.com
http://RedbacksWeb.com
No, that's not a typo!
Gary Stark
Rob wrote:
> Brian,
> Better still, come to the Sunshine Coast in beautiful Queensland! Fabulous
> scenery, great restaurants, friendly people, cold beer and sunshine!
Sorry, but the best restaurants in Oz are in Melbourne, and then Sydney.
Phil McGuinness
Italian and Greek.. yep.. but for Asian food Sydney is pretty good.
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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> Rob,
>
Gary Stark
Phil McGuinness wrote:
> SNIP[ best restaurants in Oz are in Melbourne, ]
>
> Italian and Greek.. yep.. but for Asian food Sydney is pretty good.
>
I'm not saying that it's not. The best Thai in Sydney is a mile or so
from my place, down in Double Pay.
But Sydney has too many Asian restaurants these days. Probably something
like 70% are Asian, and the best in Melbourne are probably still better
than the best in Sydney.
Of course, Sydney does have the best seafood in Oz, and the second best
in the world. :)
Phil McGuinness
Have you had a look at the Inner city population lately...?
I think the 70% says it all.
snip[ Of course, Sydney does have the best seafood in Oz ]
I think PERTH is underrated for Seafood.. Absolutely fantastic.
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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Niels Kristensen
South Africa should be in the list too. I placed a pre-order some weeks
ago. Please confirm.
Thanks,
Niels
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Rob
I didn't say the BEST, I just said Great!
roc
Gary,
>>Sorry, but the best restaurants in Oz are in Melbourne, and
>>then Sydney.
you obviously haven't had a steak from Char Char Char on the
Brisbane River...
ROC
Gary Stark
roc wrote:
> Gary,
>
> >>Sorry, but the best restaurants in Oz are in Melbourne, and
> >>then Sydney.
>
> you obviously haven't had a steak from Char Char Char on the
> Brisbane River...
You're quite correct. I don't eat that much in the way of red meat these
days.
Give me a nice baby barra .... :)
Franky De Medts
order placed
franky de medts
www.softwaredesign.be
belgium
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Geoff Schaller
Now there's a thought! ...is there one close to a beach somewhere? <g>
Phil McGuinness
Actually the Hunter Vallery wineries are really not the far (say 35-40
minutes) to beach.
It is this about this far to Nelson Bay... but why would want to go the
beach when the rural scenary and ammenties are so great.
The problem is a conference like this would require international vistors to
take 2 flights.
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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Gary Stark
> The problem is a conference like this would require international vistors to
> take 2 flights.
From wherever to Sydney ...
And then ???
The Hunter is an easy drive from Sydney.
Phil McGuinness
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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> Phil,
Brian
Yes, South Africa should have been on the list as well.
We do have an order from Aviation Database. If that is not
you please contact us via private email.
Brian
http://www.grafxsoft.com/vo27.htm
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Brian
> order placed
Thanks Franky, another * for Belgium !
The last 24 hours have been largest day yet for VO 2.7 orders.
Thanks very much. Since my last update we've added
Denmark
Germany*
USA*
Belgium*
Switzerland*
England*
Slovenia*
Taiwan ( Typhoon and all, now that's impressive !)
Italy
India
Philippines
Sweden
Brian
> > Please visit http://www.grafxsoft.com/vo27.htm to place your orders.
Brian
> snip[ Never been to Sydney either <g> ]
>
> mmm... You will love Summer here.. A bit like Florida with less humidy
>and 5-8%C hotter depending on the day.
> If you visit I will pick you up in Sydney and I can take you to Nelson Bay
> and Central Coast and the wineries.
> Then you can see another fantastic country.
Be careful what you wish for. I could show up and not leave for a long time.
Sounds like I've got a lot of nice offers here. TVM
When it comes to Food, I'm sticking with Gary. He's put me on to several
great restaurants in Southern California (Laguna) that were just excellent.
If the timing between the UK Devcon and the Aussie Devcon work out this
year, I'd love to visit.
Then again.. Rob....
>Better still, come to the Sunshine Coast in beautiful Queensland! Fabulous
>scenery, great restaurants, friendly people, cold beer and sunshine!
Sounds very good to me !
Thanks guys !
Brian
http://www.grafxsoft.com
Support your local dealer !
Gary Stark
Phil McGuinness wrote:
> Fly to Sydney and a Coach to the Wineries..
Still not two flights. :)
Phil McGuinness
Depends whether you want to get there without all the road travel.
Two flights if you Fly to Sydney and then to the Wineries region airport and
a lot fly to Belmont or Williamstown.
It is a a bit of a haul from Sydney airport to the Wineries... At least
90-120 minutes drive.
Phil
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Malcolm Gray
> Camille and all,
>
>> You forgot Luxembourg in your list !
> Opps, sorry, how could I forget Luxembourg !
>
> Wow people! It's been less then 2 hours that original message
> was posted, already we have had more orders from
>
> France
> Belgium *
> Germany
> USA*
> Mexico
> Canada*
> Austria
> Russia
> * Several Orders
Is devrealm going to be doing UK orders again?
Camille Kater
If you meant something else than the fact that Luxembourg is a very,very
small country, then your "taste" is not as "good" as you say and you
wouldn't have made this remark (otherwise: ok) !
Camille
"Gary Stark" <nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> wrote in message
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> Brian
>
> Brian wrote:
>
> > Camille and all,
> >
> > > You forgot Luxembourg in your list !
> > Opps, sorry, how could I forget Luxembourg !
>
> Have you been there?
>
> I have, and I know the answer to the question, but my good taste (shut
> up, everyone!) prevents me from provifing the answer. :)
Craig Dawson
Draytons, etc), one could be excused for thinking one was flying... :)
snip[ Still not two flights]
Craig.
Craig Dawson
snip[ It is a a bit of a haul from Sydney airport to the Wineries... At
least 90-120 minutes drive.]
Craig
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Geoff Schaller
Its impressive...
Kind of calls for even more respect for what we say in here....
Brian
> Is devrealm going to be doing UK orders again?
Yes, I would assume so. A list of international
dealers can be found at http://www.cavo.com
Brian
Brian
> This list says something about the size of the silent readership.
> Its impressive...
>
> Kind of calls for even more respect for what we say in here....
Excellent point Geoff ! I'd say that for every one poster there
are 50 Lurkers. Frankly a lot of the time I'm in the Lurker category<g>
I think it would do us a world of good, to be sensitive as to what
we post here, as people from all walks of life, and from every part
of the globe use Visual Objects as a solution to solve Business and
Scientific problems.
Last year in Nuremberg I had the opportunity to see an Visual Objects
application that controlled the Security at U.N. Belgium. Very Impressive !
Good things are being done with Visual Objects globally..Let try to
keep in mind, we all in this together.
Brian
Gary Stark
>
> If you meant something else than the fact that Luxembourg is a very,very
Yes, it's a very small country. IIRC, one city, a border on each side ....
blink and you miss it. :)
What could I say about Luxembourg that was not nice ? :)
--
g.
Gary Stark
No way.
Try Petersons ... their Back Block is very pleasant ....
Simon Whitlam ...
Scarborough ....
Craig Dawson wrote:
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Phil McGuinness
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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> Tyrrells?
Mark L. Cooper
Maybe I'm missing a subtlety here, but WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU DRINK
BUTTERSCOTCH SCHNAPPS AT A WINERY???? You can get that at the grocery store.
Believe it or not, the 'North Coast' of Ohio has some fine wineries. Just
south of Lake Erie is some fine grape growing areas
I apologize if you do mean Butterscotch Snaps and it's some kind of Aussie
pastry.
Mark
--
Mark L. Cooper
Columbus, Ohio USA
Phil McGuinness
There are lot of Wineries in this district and a small local market so they
tend to have a few speciality 'items' that sell well.
Probably just for cash flow. The exports are huge these days.
One interesting product is "Chili Snaps"... and of course the old perrenial
"Butterscotch Schaps".
Hey the Cheeses are good and even the Chocolate factory.. worth a look.
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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Peter M. Taft MD
interested in a "VO 2.7 Pro" version of the product. Instead of the free
standard group of 3rd party VO add-ons, include a bundle of the full "Pro"
versions of each product at a slightly reduced price from that of the
combined free-standing versions. Just a thought ... Peter
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Franky De Medts
i do a lot of "lurking" at this newsgroup
i must say it is the best learning school i know
greetings
franky de medts
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Geoff Schaller
Peter, I acutally canvassed this with Brian at Devcon in July. I too think
this is a great idea. I beleive that most of the bigger VO workshops would
go for this just for its simplicity. Sure the small guy not dabbling into
the depths of ADO or bBrowser etc might not be interested but it would save
me going to 5 different agencies for the source code pro versions. Brian did
raise the issue of coordination and pricing... its not a trivial exercise
from his perspective... but he did say he would look at it.
If anyone else thinks this is a good idea, please attach a note to the
thread.
Geoff
Joze Stensak
"Geoff Schaller" <geo...@softwareXXobjectives.com.au> wrote in message
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Johel
> I think it would do us a world of good, to be sensitive as to what
> we post here, as people from all walks of life, and from every part
> of the globe use Visual Objects as a solution to solve Business and
> Scientific problems.
>
> Last year in Nuremberg I had the opportunity to see an Visual Objects
> application that controlled the Security at U.N. Belgium. Very Impressive
!
> Good things are being done with Visual Objects globally..Let try to
> keep in mind, we all in this together.
Very true!!! Let's hope others can understand it also and be more polite....
Regards,
Johel
Christoph Reichl
> application that controlled the Security at U.N. Belgium. Very Impressive
!
> Good things are being done with Visual Objects globally..Let try to
> keep in mind, we all in this together.
Hi Brian,
not in Belgium, but in Austria :-)
Hope to seen you in Nuernberg. This year i can show the application managing
the fire-security at the Vienna Internatinal Airport. ( 25000 datapoints ).
Nice project.
Greetings from Austria
Christoph
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Geoff Schaller
(Actually I hope Oskar organises an application show)
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Christoph Reichl
> Don't just show it to Brian..... show all of us! <g>
of course, an if oskar has no place in the app-show, I make my own for
everone who wants to see ;-)
There are nice features inside..( Access to realtime videostorage.... )
Greetings from Austria
Christoph
"Geoff Schaller" <geo...@softwareXXobjectives.com.au> schrieb im
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ilias
wrote:
>Now that summer vacation is over.......
>
>The offical Visual Objects 2.7 Pre Sales page is now ready to take pre
>orders. Credit Cards will NOT be charged until the product ships (as
>always). The idea here is to get an idea of how many pre order we can get
>on file to better estimate the demand for VO 2.7.
[...]
-
[still doubts? this topic below may helps]
[VO27] - Should One Support VO27 Developement?
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=tukrlvctf232qo9k1...@4ax.com
Marshall Rhinehart
The idea/concept of an application show is one that I would whole heartedly
endorse.
Peter Drucker has an expression, that "it's more important to do the right
thing, than to do things right." I have often felt that this forum (the ng)
is an excellent way to learn "to do things right." An opportunity to see
the end product of others, and the discussion it would most assuredly
engender, would allow all of us a greater insight as to whether we are
"doing the right thing" (in addressing certain larger scale issues).
Here's hoping Oskar still has the stomach for such things <g>.
Marshall
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Bob
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>
> The offical Visual Objects 2.7 Pre Sales page is now ready to take pre
> orders. Credit Cards will NOT be charged until the product ships (as
> always). The idea here is to get an idea of how many pre order we can get
> on file to better estimate the demand for VO 2.7.
>
Massimo Belgrano
"Bob" <B...@vb.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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Geoff Schaller
recently. He also announced a 2.8 interim version to include other new stuff
on the road to 3.0 - this is all quite exciting because it means VO gets
back to a regular update program again. It confirms GrafXSoft's commitment
to the product.
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Rob Panosh
Rob
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Karl Faller
the rumour says: .7 no, .8 yes
Karl
Ed Richard
Not a rumour, firm plans for 2.8 as Brian explained in Germany. Mind you,
still plans with the usual disclaimer.
Ed
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Rob Panosh
Unicode support many moons ago .... and as far as I can see it is still a
rumor. When Brian first took VO over we had a lengthy conference call about
Unicode support and got the impression that it was at the top of his list.
Well anyway you can drop five developers off the VO list ... the only thing
we will be using VO for is maintaining our current customers until they
upgrade to our new product.
Rob Panosh
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Malcolm Gray
> That's why we are rewriting our application using VB.Net ....
> we needed Unicode support many moons ago .... and as far as I
> can see it is still a rumor. When Brian first took VO over we
> had a lengthy conference call about Unicode support and got
> the impression that it was at the top of his list. Well anyway
> you can drop five developers off the VO list ... the only
> thing we will be using VO for is maintaining our current
> customers until they upgrade to our new product.
He does have the problem that offering unicode as an option
is always going to be more work than forcing it, but if he
made it compulsory many of us would not upgrade.
Rob Panosh
> made it compulsory many of us would not upgrade.
Adding Unicode support should be seemless and shouldn't cause the developer
any greif.
Rob
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Malcolm Gray
> Malcolm,
>> made it compulsory many of us would not upgrade.
> IMHO including it into version 2.7 would have been the perfect
> opportunity. Adding Unicode support should be seemless and
> shouldn't cause the developer any greif.
I would like it to be seamless but I don't see how to offer both
backwards compatability with 8 bit char
seamless use of unicode
without quite a lot of compiler switches and confusion.
Geoff Schaller
Its serious work! Its not a trivial exercise.
That's why 2.8 was decided on I suppose, it isolates what is probably a
significant change.
geoff
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Rob Panosh
>> Its serious work! Its not a trivial exercise.
I agree ... I thought since they had the engine apart they mine as well bore
the heads and replace the pistons.
Cheers,
Rob
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Geoff Schaller
(...between you and me, the pace for Robert has been nothing less than
frenetic as it is...)
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Rob Panosh
Unfortunately they just don't have the resources to make all the changes at
once.
Rob
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