uk - 2 user advantage 6.2 available free from extended systems
richard townsend-rose, tdoc
you have to PROVE that you have VO2.5 or 2.6
we scanned the back of the 2.5 cd, and the grafx 2.6 upgrade invoice
and that was ok.
so you get a 2 user ads6.2 which INCLUDES the ADS Internet Server.
so with Broadband - away you go... just open Port80 on server.
Will it be that easy ??? expect some requests for help !
spoof <g> what's an NT administrator ?? <g> not just the sign on....
rgtr
Erik Visser
Every developer can get a free development licence. (or more) of any
database.
This is just spam and i do not like it.
Erik Visser
"richard townsend-rose, tdoc" <rg...@tdoc.net> schreef in bericht
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Marc Verkade
I have to buy a Pervasive SQL Licence!
Furthermore.. It is true..
You get an ADS 2 user version for free!
Spam?? No...
ADS?? Yes!
Grtz, Marc
"Erik Visser" <evi...@n.o.s.p.a.m.wilg.nl> schreef in bericht
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Rens Renooij
In tegenstelling tot het afzeiken van personen zoals we pas hebben
meegemaakt en OT verhalen over welke regering waarom niet gelijk heeft vind
ik dit nuttige info en geen spam.
(English: Instead of all other OT's and calling names to other programmers
as seen lately I don't think thids is spam, but usefull info.)
Rens
ilias
tdoc) wrote:
>The rumour is TRUE
>
>you have to PROVE that you have VO2.5 or 2.6
>we scanned the back of the 2.5 cd, and the grafx 2.6 upgrade invoice
>and that was ok.
>
>so you get a 2 user ads6.2 which INCLUDES the ADS Internet Server.
>so with Broadband - away you go... just open Port80 on server.
>
[...]
If i understand this right:
-As an VO 2.5 / 2.6 owner,you get a "2 user ADS6.2 Developer Licence"
for free, which includes ADS Internet Server.
-If you sell a ADS Server based product to a client with 2 users, You
have to purchase a licence for this client.
-ADS Local Server (file based) remains still free (even if distributed
to clients).
>rgtr
Marc Verkade
Grtz, Marc
"ilias" <use...@abeon.com> schreef in bericht
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Paul De Bie
I only got a 60 day unlimited users EVAL version from ADS....and I did ask
for the two user unlimited developpers version...
Paul
"Marc Verkade" <ma...@NOmartiSPAM.nl> schreef in bericht
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Phil McGuinness
This is good and it was offered sometime ago.. me thinkst !!
Is this offer different to the original one...?
Just checking thats all.
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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"richard townsend-rose, tdoc" <rg...@tdoc.net> wrote in message
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Uwe Heyer
I asked for the 2 User/Server version and I got the link for download.
Ahoj
-Uwe
Bill Schuler (ADS)
deploy your application with the two-user you will have to purchase a
license for it.
--
Bill Schuler
Advantage Database Server
Worldwide Sales Manager
Phone (800)235-7576 ext. 6051
(208)322-7575 ext. 6051
Fax (208)327-5006
bi...@extendsys.com
5777 N. Meeker Ave.
Boise, ID 83711
<http://www.advantagedatabase.com/>
<http://devzone.advantagedatabase.com>
"Marc Verkade" <ma...@NOmartiSPAM.nl> wrote in message
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Bill Schuler (ADS)
message.
"
If you have any questions please let me know.
To follow-up on my promise posted here a couple weeks ago. We have worked
out the process for providing the free two - user version of the Advantage
Database Server to every VO developer who wishes to test or develop with
Advantage. Please visit our Advantage Web site (See link below) and
download the Advantage Server of your choice. I.E. Advantage for NetWare,
NT, Linux or Windows. Once you have downloaded the software contact
Advantage sales and they will provide you with a serial number and
validation code so you can install and use the Advantage Database Server.
You will need to provide your sales rep with a photo copy of your VO
registration card. The licensed two user ESI is providing is a developers
license. A developers license is a full copy of the Advantage Database
Server product limited to two concurrent users. It is not meant for
production nor can it be resold, distributed or transferred. If you need to
acquire a production copy of the Advantage Database Server software you will
need to purchase the software from your local sales rep.
If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. "
This offer has since expired. Your local sales rep may run a special offer
for a limited time, but the official offer from ESI has expired.
If you have questions please contact your local sales rep. or you can
contact me directly.
--
Bill Schuler
Advantage Database Server
Worldwide Sales Manager
Phone (800)235-7576 ext. 6051
(208)322-7575 ext. 6051
Fax (208)327-5006
bills@extendsys(NOSPAM).com
5777 N. Meeker Ave.
Boise, ID 83711
<http://www.advantagedatabase.com/>
<http://devzone.advantagedatabase.com>
"richard townsend-rose, tdoc" <rg...@tdoc.net> wrote in message
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Phil McGuinness
Phil McGuinness - Sherlock Software
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"Bill Schuler (ADS)" <bi...@extendsys.com> wrote in message
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Marc Verkade
Just drop an email to Simon Groothuizen at ADS Netherlands, I'm sure he will
help you!
Bill Schuler has offered this deal herte in the NG a year or two ago.
You can use Google to fiind his offer.
Grtz., Marc
"Paul De Bie" <paul....@CLEARTHIShnt.be> schreef in bericht
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Paul De Bie
license! I even referenced your name.
Anyway, no problem; the 60day eval is more than enough to test it all out
Paul
"Marc Verkade" <ma...@NOmartiSPAM.nl> schreef in bericht
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ilias
<bi...@extendsys.com> wrote:
[...]
>This offer has since expired. Your local sales rep may run a special offer
>for a limited time, but the official offer from ESI has expired.
Now i am a little confused.
My questions: At this moment, can a VO2.5/2.6 registred developer get
a "2 user ADS6.2 Developer Licence"?
If yes: where is the webpage (exact link) that informs about this very
friendly offer?
If no: why?
richard townsend-rose, tdoc
Its not spam - its a major change of heart by extended systems.
and as they dont tell every(any)one their offers, its quite important.
bit like the discussion of cost of ver2.7
r
Bill Schuler (ADS)
--
Bill Schuler
Advantage Database Server
Worldwide Sales Manager
Phone (800)235-7576 ext. 6051
(208)322-7575 ext. 6051
Fax (208)327-5006
5777 N. Meeker Ave.
Boise, ID 83711
<http://www.advantagedatabase.com/>
<http://devzone.advantagedatabase.com>
"ilias" <use...@abeon.com> wrote in message
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> On 23 Jun 2003 13:57:41 GMT, "Bill Schuler \(ADS\)"
> <bi...@extendsys.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
> >This offer has since expired. Your local sales rep may run a special
offer
> >for a limited time, but the official offer from ESI has expired.
>
> Now i am a little confused.
>
> My questions: At this moment, can a VO2.5/2.6 registred developer get
> a "2 user ADS6.2 Developer Licence"?
This offer has expired and is not being offered any longer. You can call
your local rep and see if they are willing to work with you. Because of a
few bad people we had to remove the software from the web and protect our
interest.
>
> If yes: where is the webpage (exact link) that informs about this very
> friendly offer?
>
> If no: why?
There where a number of people who tried to abuse this offer. They started
distributing the software and using it in enviroments they should not have.
Some even tried to falsify informaiton when registering the software. In
other words a few bad people forced us to stop this promotion.
Erik Visser
And if they do not provide free dev-versions, they run out of marked soon.
As said, every databases has free developers versions. No need to point
that out.
I think one of the reason's fortress lost marked share was they did not
provide a free dev. version. You had to buy one and could get a discount for
the first deploy-version.
regards, Erik Visser
"richard townsend-rose, tdoc" <rg...@tdoc.net> schreef in bericht
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Erik Visser
A troll is not a spammer.
If it is useful for some people it can not be spam?
Perhaps it is not as irritating as spam sometimes can be, but i still see it
as advertisement. And every unsollicited advertisement is spam in my
definition.
regards, Erik
"Rens Renooij" <R.Renooij@-RemoveThis-thegardenspecialist.com> schreef in
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Erik Visser
> I have to buy a Pervasive SQL Licence!
Yep, that true. I have 'bought' one too.
A CD + BOOK for EUR 25,= incl. shipping.....
cu
Erik
"Marc Verkade" <ma...@NOmartiSPAM.nl> schreef in bericht
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ilias
>"ilias" <use...@abeon.com> wrote in message
>news:tlbefv88326m6on87...@4ax.com...
>> On 23 Jun 2003 13:57:41 GMT, "Bill Schuler \(ADS\)"
>> <bi...@extendsys.com> wrote:
[...]
>> a "2 user ADS6.2 Developer Licence"?
>
>This offer has expired and is not being offered any longer. You can call
>your local rep and see if they are willing to work with you.
I personally don't like phonecalls, local reps etc.
I like a webpage with information, publically, equal rules for alls,
no interpretations and wills.
>Because of a
>few bad people we had to remove the software from the web and protect our
>interest.
i see.
>> If yes: where is the webpage (exact link) that informs about this very
>> friendly offer?
>>
>> If no: why?
>
>There where a number of people who tried to abuse this offer. They started
>distributing the software and using it in enviroments they should not have.
>Some even tried to falsify informaiton when registering the software. In
>other words a few bad people forced us to stop this promotion.
I understand.
I like ESI/ADS, very rational trade with this free local server,
professional look of webpages, clear information.
It is a challenge to serve the good people whilst minimising abuse of
the bad people.
Makes me feel a little sad, that ESI cannot take this challenge.
Cause i like this company really.
Marc Verkade
That's much! <BG>
Grtz, Marc
"Erik Visser" <evi...@n.o.s.p.a.m.wilg.nl> schreef in bericht
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Greg Garza
> as advertisement. And every unsollicited advertisement is spam in my
> definition.
I respect your opinion, but what about advertisements of VO
conferences/devcons, information about CULE, VOCOM, COMSDK, S.P.E.,
FabTools, SDT, etc.? Would you rather be having to remember to check
some website in order to stay informed about products and information
such as these? Where should we be hearing about them?
Greg
Bill Schuler (ADS)
Sorry to hear that. You maybe be able to send an email to them. But we do
consider ourselves partners to our developers. And if we are business
partners we should have enough faith in one another that we can talk via the
phone etc.....
>
>
> I understand.
>
> I like ESI/ADS, very rational trade with this free local server,
> professional look of webpages, clear information.
>
> It is a challenge to serve the good people whilst minimising abuse of
> the bad people.
>
> Makes me feel a little sad, that ESI cannot take this challenge.
I wish we could take on every challenge that came our way. But the facts
are I would rather have our R&D team put efforts into building new features
into our product.
We will run different promotions as time moves on.
Maybe some day I can talk Brian into distributing a 2-user version of
Advantage with every copy of Clipper or VO that is shipped. This way we
would not have to worry about match up the license.
ilias
<bi...@extendsys.com> wrote:
>> I personally don't like phonecalls, local reps etc.
>
>Sorry to hear that. You maybe be able to send an email to them. But we do
>consider ourselves partners to our developers. And if we are business
>partners we should have enough faith in one another that we can talk via the
>phone etc.....
it's not a matter of faith.
i simply prefere written conversation.
and a partner / vendor should respect my prefered conversation media.
>> I understand.
>>
>> I like ESI/ADS, very rational trade with this free local server,
>> professional look of webpages, clear information.
>>
>> It is a challenge to serve the good people whilst minimising abuse of
>> the bad people.
>>
>> Makes me feel a little sad, that ESI cannot take this challenge.
>
>I wish we could take on every challenge that came our way. But the facts
>are I would rather have our R&D team put efforts into building new features
>into our product.
I don't think it's a matter of R&D resources.
Maybe strategy.
Maybe philosophy.
>We will run different promotions as time moves on.
>
>Maybe some day I can talk Brian into distributing a 2-user version of
>Advantage with every copy of Clipper or VO that is shipped. This way we
>would not have to worry about match up the license.
This sounds rational.
Exept: "maybe" and "some day".
ESI should do this "for sure" and "immediately" thus an agreement is
guaranteed prior to the release fo VO2.7.
By the way: if i order now an "ADS developer licence 2 user", how
much must i pay for it?
>
Gary Stark
Erik Visser wrote:
> Hi Rens,
> A troll is not a spammer.
> If it is useful for some people it can not be spam?
Even if it's useful for some, Unsolicited Commercial Email is still unsolicited,
and that makes it spam.
> Perhaps it is not as irritating as spam sometimes can be, but i still see it
> as advertisement. And every unsollicited advertisement is spam in my
> definition.
Correct.
> "Rens Renooij" <R.Renooij@-RemoveThis-thegardenspecialist.com> schreef in
> bericht news:01c33982$3d91c180$0d320a0a@User...
> > Hoi Erik
> >
> > In tegenstelling tot het afzeiken van personen zoals we pas hebben
> > meegemaakt en OT verhalen over welke regering waarom niet gelijk heeft
> vind
> > ik dit nuttige info en geen spam.
> >
> > (English: Instead of all other OT's and calling names to other programmers
> > as seen lately I don't think thids is spam, but usefull info.)
> >
> > Rens
> >
> >
> >
> >
--
g.
Gary Stark
gst...@RedbacksWeb.com
http://RedbacksWeb.com
Erik Visser
One thing is the meesages comes from someone i have not seen here before.
Perhaps if you or antother frequent contributer had posted it, i would have
reacted different.
But more important: What did ADS contribute to the VO community? Not a
thing! They just have a (good) product and only want to make money. There
is nothing wrong with that, but it makes messages like this spam (imho).
The product you name are non or less commercial and there owners are very
respected contributers to the VO community. They do a all/ most in there own
time and do not get payed (or just a little) for what they are doing.
CULE and VOCOM comes from Rod da Silva, who has contributed lots and lots to
the VO-community
In some way CULE and VOCOM are commercial product's but i think Rod will
never make money with these tools. ( in terms of the timeinvestment he has
done)
Comsdk is not a commercial product (yet?).
Fabtools is not a commercial product
SDT / conferences etc are no commercial products. All benefits go direct or
indirectly to (parts of) the VO community
All this is just my opinon and feel free to (dis)agree
Erik Visser
"Greg Garza" <gga...@ruddwisdom.com> schreef in bericht
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Gary Stark
Greg Garza wrote:
> Erik,
>
> > as advertisement. And every unsollicited advertisement is spam in my
> > definition.
>
> I respect your opinion, but what about advertisements of VO
> conferences/devcons, information about CULE, VOCOM, COMSDK, S.P.E.,
> FabTools, SDT, etc.? Would you rather be having to remember to check
I don't consider the restrained posting of announcements as out and out
advertising. When Bill Schuler posted his original offer for the ADS
developer license; Brian's announcements of product availability or
perhaps special shipping deals, Joachim's of upgrades to bBrowser,
announcements of conferences, etc all fall within this category: they're
restrained, they're valid within this community, and most importantly,
they're infrequent whereby the facility of using the newsgroup is not
abused.
> some website in order to stay informed about products and information
> such as these? Where should we be hearing about them?
This is an appropriate forum, perhaps with a reference back to a website
for further details.
Harvesting my email address from a newsgroup and spamming me is absolutely
not the appropriate way to deal with these issues, despite the fact that
it might represent a finely focused market.
Spam me and, if it gets through several things might happen. 1: if I can
trace the sender to a legitimate ISP, I complain to the ISP, with a copy
of the evidence, with a request that the ISP take action against the user.
If the ISP has a reasonable fair use policy for his users, this will
explicitly make it "illegal" for users to send UCE, and the user may
forfeit his account.
2: If I sense that the user might be new to the internet, I also might
send the user a note explaining to them the error of their ways, and the
fact that harvesting of emails is not an appropriate way to conduct a
legitmate business.
3: If this persists, the sending IP address gets into my block list.
Greg Garza
I appreciate your response and I can see where you're coming from.
I could have named other "more" commercial products than the ones I did,
I was just using them as examples. So the spam/no-spam threshhold lies
in the degree to which the author is a VO contributor, in your opinion.
Fair enough, I might tend to agree with you on this (to a certain
extent).
But my question still remains: When enhancements/fixes happen to these
"commercial" VO-related products, I'd rather not have to check all
VO-related vendor's and their respective websites to learn about these
patches or upgrades (e.g. bBrowser).
There's plenty of unsolicited advertising going on in this NG that I
really don't care too much about, but as long as it's related to VO it
doesn't bother me.
BTW, I can list a few names that have appeared in this NG plenty of
times in the past 7 years or so (since I've been here) that only appear
when they're peddling their software -- well-known names in the VO
community. For the most part I'd only see these names when they were
having sales, free-shipping, etc., etc., etc. Again, I'm not
complaining. Didn't bother me one bit. I'm just trying to see where
you decide as to who is a contributor and who isn't. And yes, you can
say if they provide free code or support or whatever, but as I said,
there have been plenty of names here in the past that have not done very
much if any of that and I don't recall them being shunned for
"advertising."
Greg
"Erik Visser" <evi...@n.o.s.p.a.m.wilg.nl> wrote in message
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Greg Garza
> This is an appropriate forum, perhaps with a reference back to a
website
> for further details.
>
> Harvesting my email address from a newsgroup and spamming me is
absolutely
> not the appropriate way to deal with these issues, despite the fact
that
> it might represent a finely focused market.
I agree with everything you said. And, I guess I misread something in
this discussion. I thought we were talking about posting advertisements
in this NG.
Greg
ilias
<bi...@extendsys.com> wrote:
> See in-line below.
[...]
>This offer has expired and is not being offered any longer.
[...]
vs.
On 23 Jun 2003 13:38:10 GMT, "Bill Schuler \(ADS\)"
<bi...@extendsys.com> wrote:
>This is correct. The 2-user we are giving away is a developer copy.
"we are giving away".
-
am really confused.
things changed in less than 3 hours?
Bill Schuler (ADS)
my first email. This is my one mistake this year <g> . This offer has
expired, but once again if you feel this would really benefit you please
contact your local sales rep. You can even contact them via email if you
like.
--
Bill Schuler
Advantage Database Server
Worldwide Sales Manager
Phone (800)235-7576 ext. 6051
(208)322-7575 ext. 6051
Fax (208)327-5006
bi...@extendsys.com
5777 N. Meeker Ave.
Boise, ID 83711
<http://www.advantagedatabase.com/>
<http://devzone.advantagedatabase.com>
"ilias" <use...@abeon.com> wrote in message
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Erik Visser
> I could have named other "more" commercial products than the ones I did,
> I was just using them as examples.
OK, so you always show a green light if you want to show how red looks like
<g>
But lets agree we disagree.
Erik
"Greg Garza" <gga...@ruddwisdom.com> schreef in bericht
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Rens Renooij
If this was a commercial advertisement, I truly misinterpretted this mail.
In that case You're right and should this kind of mail be removed and
blocked out of this group. (Even if it was usefull info to me {:o)))
However I also must say that I didn't find this as irritating as other
things I read lately. And those mails really pisses me of.
CU
Rens
Bulat Baltin
Did they fixed a bug when skipping into empty record buffer (RECNO() >
LASTREC()) and then skipping back? I reported this bug in vo-ads forum
and sent to Extended Systems. I received no response.
Regards,
Bulat Baltin.
www.bulatsoft.com.ua
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ilias
<bi...@extendsys.com> wrote:
>Sorry for the confusion. I should have been more careful in the wording of
>my first email. This is my one mistake this year <g> .
ok.
>This offer has
>expired, but once again if you feel this would really benefit you please
>contact your local sales rep. You can even contact them via email if you
>like.
As i've said:
"
I like a webpage with information, publically, equal rules for alls,
no interpretations and wills.
"
I will not contact my local sales rep.
Although i'm very interested in ADS.
Marc Verkade
receiving a free 2 user version.
Easy understanding I think, isn't it?
Grtz, Marc
"ilias" <use...@abeon.com> schreef in bericht
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Ginny Caughey
In any case, it's not an effective form of communication. Apparently my spam
filter caught it and I never saw it.
--
Ginny
"Rens Renooij" <R.Renooij@-RemoveThis-thegardenspecialist.com> wrote in message
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ilias
<ma...@NOmartiSPAM.nl> wrote:
>"ilias" <use...@abeon.com> schreef in bericht
>news:bshgfvklc4g8735ld...@4ax.com...
>> On 23 Jun 2003 21:13:59 GMT, "Bill Schuler \(ADS\)"
>> <bi...@extendsys.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Sorry for the confusion. I should have been more careful in the wording
>of
>> >my first email. This is my one mistake this year <g> .
>>
>> ok.
>>
>> >This offer has
>> >expired, but once again if you feel this would really benefit you please
>> >contact your local sales rep. You can even contact them via email if you
>> >like.
>>
>> As i've said:
>>
>> "
>> I like a webpage with information, publically, equal rules for alls,
>> no interpretations and wills.
>> "
>>
>> I will not contact my local sales rep.
>So if you don't want to talk to your local rep, you won't make a change
>receiving a free 2 user version.
>Easy understanding I think, isn't it?
yes, it is.
>Grtz, Marc
Adriano Rui Gominho
I can reassure you this is not spam, unless sharing information about
usefull products within this ng fits your definition of spam.
Rtr has been an ADS heavy user and he sure knows how ADS performs in
the real world.
Adriano
John P. Marshall
provided there are regarding tools for VO developers.
Regards,
John
"Adriano Rui Gominho" <a...@mail.EUnet.pt> wrote in message
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Erik Visser
Yep. Depends on what kind of information and who is the sender.
If a person who has not posted here before shares us commercial information
usefull or not, i consider this as spam.
If it is technical information i do not see it as spam.
If someone like you who is a very participation member (do we call ourselfs
mebers, visitors or what?) of this newsgroup has commercial information ( He
you can get a msdn subscription for free!) i do not see it as spam.
This is (just) how i see it.
this particular message was commercial, from a person i have never heard
about and it was even untrue/ outdated if i understand ADS correctly.
regards, Erik Visser
"Adriano Rui Gominho" <a...@mail.EUnet.pt> schreef in bericht
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ilias
<evi...@n.o.s.p.a.m.wilg.nl> wrote:
>Hi Adriano,
>
>Yep. Depends on what kind of information and who is the sender.
>If a person who has not posted here before
"not posted here before"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:rgtr%40tdoc.net
>shares us commercial information
"commercial information"
Neither the poster, nor ESI have a raised incoming due to this post.
But even if...
>usefull or not, i consider this as spam.
"consider"
Feel free.
But take care how and where you express.
>If it is technical information i do not see it as spam.
>If someone like you who is a very participation member (do we call ourselfs
>mebers, visitors or what?) of this newsgroup has commercial information ( He
>you can get a msdn subscription for free!) i do not see it as spam.
irrelevant.
public newsgroup.
Equality.
>
>This is (just) how i see it.
Faulty view (see above).
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This is a public newsgroup.
Your postings in this topic are 'spam', as they are off-topic.
The fact that your are a regular poster does not change this.
It makes it even 'worser'
>this particular message was commercial, from a person i have never heard
>about and it was even untrue/ outdated if i understand ADS correctly.
The information was not untrue/outdated.
Read 'between the lines'.
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But: false information is nothing special.
Posters can correct this.
Like i correct your faulty statements.
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What i would like to say is:
Please stop to have this arrogance to write in this style against
newcomers, whilst making much harder mistakes than the person you
criticize.
I'v place a "watch" on this thread and i find the off-topic traffic
that you've generated very annoying.
At least open a new thread to discuss this.
e.g.
[OT] - Is this a commercial post, or what? [was: uk - 2 user advantage
6.2 ava...]
Adriano Rui Gominho
I find it very confusing the way you quote. Sometimes it seems like a
mail header incorrectly parsed onto the message<g>
Could you just state your points more concisely?
Adriano
Adriano Rui Gominho
Richard has been around for centuries<g>
A glimpse of his work at http://www.tdoc.org.uk/
Adriano
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:01:45 +0200, "Erik Visser"
ilias
<a...@mail.EUnet.pt> wrote:
>ilias,
>
>I find it very confusing the way you quote.
standard technique, nothing special.
>Sometimes it seems like a
>mail header incorrectly parsed onto the message<g>
don't get this.
>Could you just state your points more concisely?
...
>Adriano
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BTW: please delete content you are not refering to.
Geoff Schaller
responses.
> standard technique, nothing special.
I find nothing 'standard' in what you do for quote/response marking. All the
extra line breaks and brackets and dots add nothing to the context of the
quote but they do make it very difficult to follow.
Geoff
Gary Stark
I suspect that you misread the silly ass's response.
Geoff Schaller wrote:
> You see? I'm not alone in expressing difficulty with the way you post
> responses.
>
> > standard technique, nothing special.
The "nothing special" was, I suspect, a reference to "self" within the context
of the poster of that message. <g>
And in that case, it's probably still big-noting "self". :)
Geoff Schaller
Proof I am having difficulty with his posts!
ilias
What a challenge!
I've really difficulties to extract who of those two is "beaves".
ilias
<ge...@softwareXXXXobjectives.com.au> wrote:
The [manually recreated] full context:
>>>I find it very confusing the way you quote.
>>
>>standard technique, nothing special.
=> {"standard technique" refers to "quoting"}
>
>You see? I'm not alone in expressing difficulty with the way you post
>responses.
>
>I find nothing 'standard' in what you do for quote/response marking.
of course not, cause...
{"standard technique" refers to "quoting"}
>All the
>extra line breaks and brackets and dots add nothing to the context of the
>quote but they do make it very difficult to follow.
Distinguish!
I quote generally with precision, normally without altering the
content.
How i write below the quote is another topic.
>
>Geoff
>
>
richard townsend-rose, tdoc
I have no idea.
Also I have been trying to stop a complex method which is called by a
focuschange method running unless some records have been added to a
file.
So I collected the Reccount. and when I test it - guess what - it has
updated itself. so it must be a pointer that is passed not the
value...
But I have got the software !
Richard
ilias
<3062...@RedbacksWeb.com> wrote:
>Geoff,
>
>I suspect that you misread the silly ass's response.
[...]
"silly ass"
An insult.
But there's relativity.
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Me. [notice: 'idiot' ]
An 'idiot' calls me "silly ass".
I would not interpret it as an insult.
The 'idiot' is not able to insult me.
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Law. [notice: idiot]
An idiot calls someone "silly ass".
Law will not interpret is as an insult.
Cause the idiot is simply nuts.
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The Freedom Of Speach.
TheFreedom Of Being An Idiot.
Choose.
Geoff Schaller
There is so much punctuation in your responses and so many added blank lines
it is quite frustrating to attempt to read. This is especially true when you
respond to another response also cutting and pasting from an original. It is
impossibe to follow and the post I am repsonding to is case in point. The
"traditional" text way is to have ">" prefixing lines from the source, and
in qty to the number of reposts, and your text on a clear line.
Geoff
Geoff Schaller
> updated itself. so it must be a pointer that is passed not the
> value...
No - you cannot make that assumption.
More likely it is an access which goes away extracts the value at that
moment. You can check this by calling ivargetinfo() on the thing and finding
out what type of variable it is.
Geoff
ilias
context broken.
conversation aborted.
Geoff Schaller
Well done! See, you can be nice <g>.
(And probably the most welcome response to many people)
richard townsend-rose, tdoc
again thanks.
richard