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The FIX is in! Renderosity screws Legume!

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Legume

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Dec 21, 2002, 10:32:27 AM12/21/02
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Yes, kids, it's true. In the middle of voting for Artist of the Year, the
Powers That Be at Renderosity.com decided to close down the vote; stating
that the administrators of the site are the ones who select the Artist of
the Year, unlike in every year past; they also state that they set up the
entire front-page story and voting poll with links to the candidates
galleries BY ACCIDENT, and that this new voting procedure was a policy
secretly decided "some time ago".

All this happens just as I'm about to overtake the front-runner, who, by
chance, happens to be a VENDOR at Renderosity, someone with an established
business relationship with the sponsor of the contest.

If that's not a FIX, I don't know what is.
--
Legume
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"I have been thinking about sitting down with Crazy Acid Burnout Man and
having a serious talk with him." - Ivan Stang

Legume

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Dec 21, 2002, 10:33:56 AM12/21/02
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Leonard the Committed

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Dec 21, 2002, 1:14:29 PM12/21/02
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Not to mention we had to create an account to vote for yer sorry ass, with a
legit e-mail address! That means we ended up on yet another "spam list".


"Legume" <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote in message
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Blackout

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Dec 21, 2002, 2:34:01 PM12/21/02
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"Legume" wrote

> Yes, kids, it's true. In the middle of voting for Artist of the Year, the
> Powers That Be at Renderosity.com decided to close down the vote; stating
> that the administrators of the site are the ones who select the Artist of
> the Year, unlike in every year past; they also state that they set up the
> entire front-page story and voting poll with links to the candidates
> galleries BY ACCIDENT, and that this new voting procedure was a policy
> secretly decided "some time ago".
>
> All this happens just as I'm about to overtake the front-runner, who, by
> chance, happens to be a VENDOR at Renderosity, someone with an established
> business relationship with the sponsor of the contest.
>
> If that's not a FIX, I don't know what is.

those motherfuckers! how dare they screw YOU before WE could screw THEM!


Priestess Pisces

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Dec 21, 2002, 2:52:08 PM12/21/02
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come on kids,
you think theyd let us screw them twice with the same dildo
this is still the CON we are talking about.
you need to try a new approach


"Leonard the Committed" <ccssk@-removeTHIS-chartermi.net> wrote in message
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Joe Cosby

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Dec 21, 2002, 3:29:36 PM12/21/02
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 09:33:56 -0600, Legume
<no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote:

This is nice. I liked the part where somebody is giving x2000 a
"second warning" for saying something negative about management.

Especially so as the offending remarks seem to have been purged.

I posted a nice rant at the end. I hope nobody notices that I really
don't have shit to do with the site.

I don't think a little reality should get in the way of a good rant.

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

Ya know, Jesus wouldn't be so popular if he wasn't all sweaty and naked on the cross

El Queso

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Dec 21, 2002, 5:25:59 PM12/21/02
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Legume wrote:
> Yes, kids, it's true. In the middle of voting for Artist of the Year, the
> Powers That Be at Renderosity.com decided to close down the vote; stating
> that the administrators of the site are the ones who select the Artist of
> the Year, unlike in every year past; they also state that they set up the
> entire front-page story and voting poll with links to the candidates
> galleries BY ACCIDENT, and that this new voting procedure was a policy
> secretly decided "some time ago".
>
> All this happens just as I'm about to overtake the front-runner, who, by
> chance, happens to be a VENDOR at Renderosity, someone with an established
> business relationship with the sponsor of the contest.
>
> If that's not a FIX, I don't know what is.

Total bullshit. We should all.... well... damn. My anger spends quick
nowdays. I'm gonna go play my guitar now. Good luck, though.
Queso

Legume

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Dec 21, 2002, 5:30:05 PM12/21/02
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"Blackout" <blac...@404subgenius.com> wrote in
news:Bm3N9.51$l54....@news.uswest.net:

> those motherfuckers! how dare they screw YOU before WE could screw
> THEM!

At least we have the courtesy to screw someone without breaking the rules
of engagement.

Here are the facts, Blackout:

The winner of the AOY prize is decided by public vote. We're the public.
And we vote. Thus we are within the rules of engagement.

They are NOT. They are changing their own rules because they don't want ME
to be Artist of the Year; because my artwork isn't the kind of pretty,
commercially exploitable tripe they are trying to promote.

nu-monet v5.0

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Dec 21, 2002, 5:47:51 PM12/21/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> The winner of the AOY prize is decided by public
> vote. We're the public. And we vote. Thus we are
> within the rules of engagement.
>
> They are NOT. They are changing their own rules
> because they don't want ME to be Artist of the
> Year; because my artwork isn't the kind of pretty,
> commercially exploitable tripe they are trying to
> promote.


Well, the obvious way to get even with scoundrels
is to be a better scoundrel. How would the
Renderers feel if someone published on online
press release announcing a lawsuit against them?

NOT you, surprisingly enough. Just some Joe Blow
quoted in whatever online publication, as launching
a class-action suit against their website in, let
us say, Florida, or Tennessee, where lawsuits are
a way of life.

The ANNOUNCEMENT of a lawsuit could be real gaudy,
asserting criminal fraud, wire fraud, contest
rigging, even tax evasion. It would have no
bearing on a REAL lawsuit, if in fact one existed.

Because that is the irony, here. The willingness
of lots of online pubs to publish press releases
without checking the facts.

But wouldn't it make the Renderers shit themselves
to think that they are going to be sued for lots
more than they would make for their little dido?

Plus, all that BAD publicity for their vendor...

--
http://www.sexy-jewelry.com/item-bb.html
(the ONLY URL worthy of being a .sig)

Legume

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Dec 21, 2002, 6:21:32 PM12/21/02
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"nu-monet v5.0" <not...@succeeds.com> wrote in
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> Well, the obvious way to get even with scoundrels
> is to be a better scoundrel. How would the
> Renderers feel if someone published on online
> press release announcing a lawsuit against them?

Nu-Monet, it seems that every time I come to the conclusion that you're a
devious bastard, you go and find something even more devious?

nu-monet v5.0

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Dec 21, 2002, 6:37:40 PM12/21/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> "nu-monet v5.0" <not...@succeeds.com> wrote in
> news:3E04F0...@succeeds.com:
>
> > Well, the obvious way to get even with scoundrels
> > is to be a better scoundrel. How would the
> > Renderers feel if someone published on online
> > press release announcing a lawsuit against them?
>
> nu-monet, it seems that every time I come to the
> conclusion that you're a devious bastard, you go
> and find something even more devious?


Why does everybody always assume that I have a heart
of darkness, and *then* that I'm not very good at
using it?

They always assume that I'm a big time drug dealing
corporate executive child pimping SPECTRE-CIA agent
assassin, especially women, and then they get all
shocked and shit when I get all dangerous on them
by proposing putting dog doo in a paper bag on the
mark's front step, setting it on fire and ringing
their doorbell.

Damnit, when you are a respected member of the
Forces of Evil, you have to exhibit some core
competencies.

Hell, you at least *used* to be on the dark side.
I hope I'm not alone with Joe Cosby enjoying the
sordid and perverse pleasure that comes from being
a naughty, naughty individual. PRABOB that Magdalen
isn't here or she would tell me to stop doing that
or something.


--
"Do not EVER watch a Rammstein video when
you are fried on Hawaiian mushrooms."
--take my word for it

Priestess Pisces

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Dec 21, 2002, 8:39:10 PM12/21/02
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"nu-monet v5.0" <not...@succeeds.com> wrote in message
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damn evil is sexy,
i gotta go wank now

--
Priestess Pisces of the 99.44% Anti-Pure
Founder of Wankers for "Bob"
Resident of the State of Flying Jesse's BBQ and Donut Shop
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Blackout

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Dec 21, 2002, 10:44:55 PM12/21/02
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"Legume" wrote

> > those motherfuckers! how dare they screw YOU before WE could screw
> > THEM!
>
> At least we have the courtesy to screw someone without breaking the rules
> of engagement.
>
> Here are the facts, Blackout:
>
> The winner of the AOY prize is decided by public vote. We're the public.
> And we vote. Thus we are within the rules of engagement.
>
> They are NOT. They are changing their own rules because they don't want ME
> to be Artist of the Year; because my artwork isn't the kind of pretty,
> commercially exploitable tripe they are trying to promote.

wait a MINUTE! are you saying that the SYSTEM is CORRUPT?

Artemia Salina

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Dec 22, 2002, 1:23:55 AM12/22/02
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 13:14:29 +0000, Leonard the Committed wrote:

> Not to mention we had to create an account to vote for yer sorry ass, with a
> legit e-mail address! That means we ended up on yet another "spam list".

I do have to say one thing about Renderosity; I've been signed up
for something like a year and haven't gotten a bit of spam via them.


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nenslo

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Dec 22, 2002, 3:36:31 AM12/22/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> Yes, kids, it's true. In the middle of voting for Artist of the Year, the
> Powers That Be at Renderosity.com decided to close down the vote; stating
> that the administrators of the site are the ones who select the Artist of
> the Year, unlike in every year past; they also state that they set up the
> entire front-page story and voting poll with links to the candidates
> galleries BY ACCIDENT, and that this new voting procedure was a policy
> secretly decided "some time ago".
>
> All this happens just as I'm about to overtake the front-runner, who, by
> chance, happens to be a VENDOR at Renderosity, someone with an established
> business relationship with the sponsor of the contest.
>
> If that's not a FIX, I don't know what is.

Maybe they just didn't want the winner to be an ASSHOLE who
DELIBERATELY FUCKS WITH THEM and tries to STUFF THE BALLOT BOX. Maybe
roping in a lot of folks who are not otherwise involved or interested
and getting them to vote for you is what THEY think a fix is. Being
an asshole and a BABY, now that is not good.

Legume

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Dec 22, 2002, 10:28:52 AM12/22/02
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nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote in news:3E05798E...@yahooX.com:

> Maybe they just didn't want the winner to be an ASSHOLE who
> DELIBERATELY FUCKS WITH THEM and tries to STUFF THE BALLOT BOX. Maybe
> roping in a lot of folks who are not otherwise involved or interested
> and getting them to vote for you is what THEY think a fix is. Being
> an asshole and a BABY, now that is not good.

Some people NEED to be fucked with, Nenslo. I'd think YOU would understand
that more than anyone. And I only "fuck with them" in the capacity that I
don't post the same generic Poser pin-ups that inundate the site.

As for "stuffing the ballot box", hey, it's no sin to have people who like
my artwork outside the boundaries of the site, and there's no rule that
says I can't campaign off-site for votes.

Frankly, I should be artist of the Year there because I'm the only one of
all the candidates who isn't trapped into creating images of the same genre
over and over...genres that have already been fucked to death by a thousand
other artists there.

nenslo

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Dec 22, 2002, 4:13:12 PM12/22/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote in news:3E05798E...@yahooX.com:
>
> > Maybe they just didn't want the winner to be an ASSHOLE who
> > DELIBERATELY FUCKS WITH THEM and tries to STUFF THE BALLOT BOX. Maybe
> > roping in a lot of folks who are not otherwise involved or interested
> > and getting them to vote for you is what THEY think a fix is. Being
> > an asshole and a BABY, now that is not good.
>
> Some people NEED to be fucked with, Nenslo. I'd think YOU would understand
> that more than anyone. And I only "fuck with them" in the capacity that I
> don't post the same generic Poser pin-ups that inundate the site.
>
> As for "stuffing the ballot box", hey, it's no sin to have people who like
> my artwork outside the boundaries of the site, and there's no rule that
> says I can't campaign off-site for votes.
>
> Frankly, I should be artist of the Year there because I'm the only one of
> all the candidates who isn't trapped into creating images of the same genre
> over and over...genres that have already been fucked to death by a thousand
> other artists there.

So get your own website and then YOU decide what happens there. It's
their website and they run it the way they want to. Every asshole who
gets his kicks out of jerking people around for his own pleasure
thinks he's doing them a BIG FAVOR. Stop lying to yourself; you're
not MEAN, NASTY AND HATEFUL as an exercise in philanthropy, you do it
because you enjoy it and that's the name of that tune. The reason so
much of the art at Renderosity is similar is because THAT'S WHAT THEY
LIKE. They aren't into being all "creative" or "daring" or fucking
with people's heads. They're into doing what interests them and
showing it to each other. You went into THEIR environment and you're
all "oh I got cheated" because you can't force them to do things
according to your whim. GET THIS - normal people DON'T LIKE being
agitated, disturbed, fucked with and jerked around. It does NOT
improve their lives or make them happier. It does NOT make the world
a better place to screw things up for the normals just because you are
an asshole. They are the ones who keep everything running so we can
loaf around and think of fucked up concepts and show them to each
other. THEY are not the target audience for that sort of thing, THEY
are not capable of appreciating it, and if you insist on thrusting
fucked up concepts in the faces of normals they will suddenly and
shockingly change things so you can't do it any more. That's the
world you are living in, so don't be a whiney baby about it. Take
what you get and like it. I've got a whole closet full of fucked up
art that NOBODY wants to see and I have the sense to keep my big yap
shut about it and not further humiliate myself by acting like the
world is unfair and I am so unappreciated. SUCK IT UP, YOU FUCKING
PUSSY. DON'T BE SUCH A GODDAMN PANTYWAIST.

nu-monet v5.0

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Dec 22, 2002, 4:14:37 PM12/22/02
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nenslo wrote:
> ...I've got a whole closet full of fucked up

> art that NOBODY wants to see and I have the
> sense to keep my big yap shut about it and not
> further humiliate myself by acting like the
> world is unfair and I am so unappreciated...


I want to see your art, Unky nenslo, he said,
in his best widdow girl voice. Unless 'oo tink
its too gwownup or bootytown fo' me.

I wike my Unky nenslo. He's siwwy.

--
Give me thank or kill me.
--nu-monet

The Stinking Bishop Prostata Cantata MP

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Dec 22, 2002, 4:25:27 PM12/22/02
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In article <Xns92EC6AF0...@216.166.71.239>,

Legume <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote:
>
>Frankly, I should be artist of the Year there because I'm the only one of
>all the candidates who isn't trapped into creating images of the same genre
>over and over...genres that have already been fucked to death by a thousand
>other artists there.

i agree. nobody does 'tragedy' like legume. while others do trite
"tribute" images, Legume puts a bunny in the crosshais in front of the
whitehouse.

thats why *i* voted for him. and it pisses me off that i have been
disenfranchised in this matter.


stupid fuckers

--
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"She grew on him like E. coli and he was room temperature Canadian beef."
-Author Unknown

Joe Cosby

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Dec 22, 2002, 5:18:58 PM12/22/02
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 09:32:27 -0600, Legume
<no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote:

>Yes, kids, it's true. In the middle of voting for Artist of the Year, the
>Powers That Be at Renderosity.com decided to close down the vote; stating
>that the administrators of the site are the ones who select the Artist of
>the Year, unlike in every year past; they also state that they set up the
>entire front-page story and voting poll with links to the candidates
>galleries BY ACCIDENT, and that this new voting procedure was a policy
>secretly decided "some time ago".
>
>All this happens just as I'm about to overtake the front-runner, who, by
>chance, happens to be a VENDOR at Renderosity, someone with an established
>business relationship with the sponsor of the contest.
>
>If that's not a FIX, I don't know what is.

Here, you should point people to this:

http://www.poserpros.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6998&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Tell them to control+f on "rosity" to get to the good stuff.

Damn It! We take their land, rape their women, give them blankets infested with
samllpox, AND THIS is how they thank us!

Legume

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Dec 22, 2002, 5:45:09 PM12/22/02
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nenslo wrote:

<snip><Drivel>

Cram it up your wrinkled old ass, you geriatric pig-felcher. If I want your
fucking opinion I'll fetch your teeth out of the glass and stuff them in
you withered old pie hole.

In other words:

"Shut Up, Nenslo".

Two Beans

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Dec 22, 2002, 8:53:10 PM12/22/02
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> If that's not a FIX, I don't know what is.

Maybe we should administer some kinda "slashdot effect" to the site.
Anyone know how to get LOTS of people to visit r-osity at once?

-2B

Joe Cosby

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Dec 22, 2002, 8:51:03 PM12/22/02
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People ask me if I've ever been called a Nazi. I answer that no one
has
ever had dreams of being tied down and sexually ravished by someone
dressed
as a liberal.
- P.J. O'Rourke

Jesus has returned, with a rusty coat hanger
- The Rev. Ivan Stang

Blackout

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Dec 22, 2002, 10:33:47 PM12/22/02
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"Legume" wrote

> <snip><Drivel>
>
> Cram it up your wrinkled old ass, you geriatric pig-felcher. If I want
your
> fucking opinion I'll fetch your teeth out of the glass and stuff them in
> you withered old pie hole.
>
> In other words:
>
> "Shut Up, Nenslo".

THE SILVERBACKS ARE FIGHTING!


nenslo

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:39:43 AM12/23/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> nenslo wrote:
>
> <snip><Drivel>
>
> Cram it up your wrinkled old ass, you geriatric pig-felcher. If I want your
> fucking opinion I'll fetch your teeth out of the glass and stuff them in
> you withered old pie hole.
>
> In other words:
>
> "Shut Up, Nenslo".

And furthermore, you are damned lucky to have any place to show your
work at all, especially a place that never charged you a cent, where
more people can see your work in ONE DAY than saw Van Gogh's during
his entire lifetime. If you ever had to take slides of your work,
actual photographic transparencies of ten years' worth of genuine oil
paintings, around to two dozen galleries and have them all say "no
thank you," you'd get down on your knees and thank god for the
privilege of being able to simply click a button to put your work up
where people can see it and you don't have to make up a lot of
fakey-assed shit to try to prove it's "important" in some way, or
stand around at an opening and see artfags standing with their backs
to the art talking about their hairdos. In short, if you ever had to
see what it's like to be a "real" artist (which I wasted twenty years
trying to do), who can't drive a nail into the wall and hang a picture
on it without having to compete against every other artist who ever
lived AND INEVITABLY LOSE, you would do that most rare of human
actions: take your own advice, and shut up.

Legume

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:59:42 AM12/23/02
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nenslo wrote:

<snip><More Drivel>

Y'know, Nenslo, you sound more like Grandpa Simpson every day.

Joe Cosby

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Dec 23, 2002, 3:57:28 AM12/23/02
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On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:13:12 -0800, nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote:

>Legume wrote:
>>
>> nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote in news:3E05798E...@yahooX.com:
>>
>> > Maybe they just didn't want the winner to be an ASSHOLE who
>> > DELIBERATELY FUCKS WITH THEM and tries to STUFF THE BALLOT BOX. Maybe
>> > roping in a lot of folks who are not otherwise involved or interested
>> > and getting them to vote for you is what THEY think a fix is. Being
>> > an asshole and a BABY, now that is not good.
>>
>> Some people NEED to be fucked with, Nenslo. I'd think YOU would understand
>> that more than anyone. And I only "fuck with them" in the capacity that I
>> don't post the same generic Poser pin-ups that inundate the site.
>>
>> As for "stuffing the ballot box", hey, it's no sin to have people who like
>> my artwork outside the boundaries of the site, and there's no rule that
>> says I can't campaign off-site for votes.
>>
>> Frankly, I should be artist of the Year there because I'm the only one of
>> all the candidates who isn't trapped into creating images of the same genre
>> over and over...genres that have already been fucked to death by a thousand
>> other artists there.
>
>So get your own website and then YOU decide what happens there. It's
>their website and they run it the way they want to.

God I hate this line of bullshit.

So I guess people should just bend over and take it up the ass for
every corporate scumbag that rolls along?

I have been hearing this same line of neo-republican drool since
fucking Microsoft. "If you don't like Windows, just don't use it!
Stop bitching! They can do whatever they want! Shut up unless you
have like, your own operating system!"

I guess if I don't like the way grocery stores operate, I should just
SHUT UP and starve to death, right? If I don't like it, well BY GOLLY
I should get my own grocery store and they I decide what happens
there.

Those in power deserve complete and unquestioning obedience -because-
they're in power, right?

No that's not what you're saying but yes that's what it boils down to.
Pull your head out of your ass and follow your little line of bullshit
to it's logical conclusion.

And if the oil interests manage to get some drooling fuckwit elected
president, and he wants to start a war in the middle east against the
oil interests, I should just SHUT UP and by golly I should get my own
country and then -I- decide what happens there. It's -their- country


and they run it the way they want to.

Yes, I know there is a million miles between renderosity and the war
in Iraq. But the logic is the same, the logic is bullshit, and the
logic is the mindset that I see in the pink motherfuckers around me,
whether it's the Microsoft antitrust case (debacle, "game has been
called due to lack of interest") the presidential "elections" or the
impending war in the middle east. It's exactly the same kind of "BUH!
... BUH! ... WELL, JUST ROLL OVER ON YOUR STOMACH AND GET FUCKED! IF
YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GO ELSEWHERE!" fucking nonsense.

"America: love it or leave it!"

Remember that from the sixties?

Well guess what, nenslo?

That's YOU

Don't protest. Don't object. Don't raise a fuss. Accept those in
authority and don't complain. The SYSTEM works. Criticising the
SYSTEM can only interfere. Thank GOD for the scraps that the SYSTEM
throws you off the table, drag them into a quiet corner and gnaw them
in silence.

And be thankful they were thrown to you.

Just ignore the staggering levels of bullshit and the lies that they
try to shove down your throat, whether it's some bullshit 3-d
rendering gateway or the government or the coca-cola company.

If you don't like it, WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK TO WAZZILAND WHERE YOU
CAME FROM?

Yeah, I know nenslo. You are just trolling, trying to fuck people up
over a one-sided argument.

You're a regular Frank Zappa.

Well, it worked. This particular line of bullshit makes me want to
puke.

IT'S THEIR DARN WEBSITE! GO START YOUR OWN!

Bullshit, nenslo.

...As long as they're clean they don't have to be perfectly straight.

-- Rev. Magdalen,

Joe Cosby

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Dec 23, 2002, 4:28:26 AM12/23/02
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Well, nenslo, I'll tell you what.

I have musical talent. Real talent. I knew it when I was fifteen and
writing tunes that had the other little garage band heroes stomping
over one another wanting me in their band. I knew it when I was
seventeen and had sleazoid 'agents' trying to put me in a band. I
knew it when I was twenty and the local recording studio, where we
were renting time, used to have people who would drop their jobs and
just sit and listen to our pickup band, cross-legged on the floor jaws
dropping.

But I wasn't blind. I looked, and I saw the art fags. Getting
gallery shows over some piece of crap where they pissed on a canvas of
Jesus and called it PISS JESUS. OOH, GOSH, THAT'S SO ... SO ... UH,
GOSH! I MEAN, THAT REALLY SAYS SOMETHING, FUCK, UHM YEAH, OR
SOMETHING, I GUESS, I MEAN IT MUST, I MEAN THEY PISSED ON THE CANVAS!
I MEAN ... OOOH ... GOSH!

While real, talented, powerful mind-boggling artists were pissed out
into the streets.

Painting, music, whatever the fuck. It's all the same.

GEE, I LOVE YOUR MUSIC. BUT DOES IT MAKE ME -FEEL- LIKE A PEPSI!?

I saw what it was all about when I was seventeen.

I knew that if I tried to go for a career as a musician, I would have
people in suits and ties, trying to look sincere, trying to "get it",
sitting down and saying "gee, I love your music. But does it make me
-feel- like a Pepsi?"

And then they blink.

So I have struggled with trying to balance a full-time job and do my
music in whatever rare moments I have to myself.

Do you know what it feels like to know your soul is being raped? Do
you know what it means for that to be your life?

You think you do, but you don't.

You went for the life I didn't. You devoted yourself to it. And as
you make clear, you FAILED.

Not that this failure is a failure of your art. I know. If you don't
get that at this point, stop reading and go masturbate, you aren't
following a fucking thing.

I know.

So you went for The Life. And you feel like you Fought The Good
Fight. And what the fuck did it add up to?

The thing is, I know people who made it. The whole pre-Nirvana club
scene was all people I knew. It wasn't "grunge".

In fact the "nirvana sound" wasn't really typical before nirvana. It
was a strange mixture of a kind of acid neo-hippy-acid sound and a lot
of 80's style heavy metal. It was distinctive, but it didn't have the
sound that people now call "grunge". People fucking loved nirvana,
before they made it big, people were hysterical for nirvana from day
one. But it wasn't a style. It was them. It was this one particular
band.

So the rest of it, the 99 million out of a billion bands who didn't
make it, were playing this other stuff, and most of them died.

And everybody I knew, were either playing the black black death metal
sound, or the acid bleeding ears hippy sound.

Or they were doing "Rush" covers.

Or they were playing "Freebird" in dingy bars.

Why?

Because they loved Freebird? Because they loved "Rush"? Because they
loved black black death metal?

The answer is no.

But, the answer is also, in a continuous gradient from "freebird" to
nirvana, "no, but they fooled themselves into believing that they did
love it, because they could get $200 a night for it".

So what's my point?

Even those who didn't sell out, sold out.

Even those who didn't go corporate commercial Pepsi Jingle writer,
sold out.

Maybe they fooled themselves that they didn't.

Maybe they convinced themselves that playing in that little
off-the-freeway Renton bar, sneaking a few jazzy riffs in on the
custom left handed five string bass, was a triumph, and if they had to
do Freebird once an evening, well at least they weren't SELLOUTS.

But of course, they were.

So whine at me about your tough life as a TRUE ARTEEST, nenslo.

The simple fact is, that the internet, shit like mp3.com, is
completely shattering the art world that existed in the past.

The coke chain record industry faggots are DYING.

It won't mean that every dipshit with a copy of Poser is going to be
able to quit their day job and spend the day doing renders of
Subgenius logos all day. But the playing field will be vastly more
level. And the tiny, narrow, channels in which artists had to try to
work in the past will be broken.

And it won't matter if it's the "right style". Whether it's Piss
Jesus or Freebird. It will just matter if it works.

But if, and only if, sites like renderosity and mp3.com don't punk out
completely to the advertising, corporate interests.

Do you get it now?

***

Well, you can take this as a flame, or a very good rant triggered by
your random bullshit.

You should take it as the latter and be flattered.

Which is a polite way of saying; "shut the fuck up, nenslo".

:^*

MRvDC

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Joe Cosby wrote:
> ::snippity snap snap::


>
> But I wasn't blind. I looked, and I saw the art fags. Getting
> gallery shows over some piece of crap where they pissed on a canvas of
> Jesus and called it PISS JESUS.

Actually. It was PissChrist. He took a wee in a big jelly jar type
thingy, plopped a crucifix inside, screwed the lid, and took a picture.

I forget the name of the artist. But. I remember the issue being that
the artist had received funding (however minimal) from the US
Government. The National Blah-de-fucking-blah-blah Thingy of the Arts or
whatever. And that sort of pissed folks off (ha!) that government artsy
monies were being used to fund some guy dunking the symbol of agony [I'm
sorry. *Sacrifice*.] for the western world's messiah in a jelly jar
filled with his own pee-pees.

I suppose an argument can be made that Christ was a god walking the
earth as a man so. Obviously. He needed to take a wee everynow and
again. Personally. I just dismissed it as some dude lacking any real
talent whatsoever so he had to do something 'shocking' to make a name
for himself. And then. Of course. There's the people that just lurve to
be shocked so they do the little 'I'm so shocked!' dance for him and the
cycle of mediocrity goes around and around and around.

Sorta like Marilyn Manson. Yeah. Sorta like that.

But. Still. I met this one chick (her father is a minister here in
Southern California) who said to me once, (and rather robotically in
fact), "Jesus lived without sin," when I made the off-handed comment
that Christ had morning wood. (This girl later went on to ripping me off
some serious cash in a pot deal. Good thing Christ lived without sin,
eh? So dirty little fuckers like her can run around ripping well-meaning
potheads like me of cash).

But. What is sin? Christ (if he ever did exist...I just like to refer to
Him as a literary figure. That way I don't sound quite as silly.) most
definitely had to pee. Shit. And. If he wasn't castrated. Definitely
woke up with an erect cock which, when the opportunity afforded itself,
he probably spanked like a crazy monkey.

So. I guess. I do understand PissChrist some. Idunno.

NOW IMMA GONNA RAMBLE MEANINGLESSLY!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHAHA!!!!!

Sometimes. For kicks. I like to make pretend that Christ really was
Satan come to free us all from the yoke of slavery. And. Since he was
executed by the Romans. And. They went on to form the ROMAN Catholic
Church. CHRISTIANITY is really the ENEMY of CHRIST and they've convinced
the entire planet that the *REAL* MESSIAH is the BAD GUY when it's
really just the opposite in this horrid little mirror reality we live
in. Up is down. Left is Right. Angels are Demons. Right is Wrong. Now.
Wouldn't *that* be a FIX to get one's proverbial lacy pink panties in a
twist about!

"Daddy, Daddy, Daddy...the *DOCTORS* calling..."

But. Wait! This one is different! Christ (as a literary figure) was a
hybrid. Half-human. Half-angel. Lucifer was a fallen angel (the PROUDEST
of all the angels, in fact).

Now. As literary figures. Would Lucifer take pleasure in watching one of
HIS OWN KIND being humilated, tortured and eventually executed by a
bunch of *lousy* chittering little TALKING MONKEYS?

I seriously doubt it. That'd be a poorly drawn character. All that angel
pride thrown aside so he could be king of the shit-apes. Nah. I don't
think so. I certainly wouldn't smile if a bunch of dung beetles swarmed
all over a member of my family (none of whom I care for very much).

"Better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven." Sure. Sure. But don't
think I *like* you, Chimpy.

I think Lucifer would prolly be a bit pissed off about the whole affair.
Might even hate "Gawd" a little bit more. Mebbe he'd hum "Bankrupt on
Selling" to himself as his lip curled into a snarl.

Mebbe he'd let rip with an earthquake or something. Take a mess of those
dirty little apes out.

That'll learn 'em.


> ::snippity snap snap::


> Well, you can take this as a flame, or a very good rant triggered by
> your random bullshit.
>

I not sure what mine was.

> You should take it as the latter and be flattered.

Oui. Oui. Oui.


Lucifuge.
#!0

El Queso

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Dec 23, 2002, 4:30:39 PM12/23/02
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Legume wrote:
> nenslo wrote:
>
> <snip><More Drivel>
>
> Y'know, Nenslo, you sound more like Grandpa Simpson every day.
>

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! He TOTALLY does. Great, now I'll hear that voice when I
read a Nenslo post and give him more affection than he deserves.
Queso

ignatz topolino

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Joe Cosby <joec...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote in message news:<p0jd0v8f7daf4670h...@4ax.com>...

> On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:13:12 -0800, nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote:

> Pull your head out of your ass and follow your little line of bullshit
> to it's logical conclusion.

If there's one thing I respect about Nenslo, it's that he ALWAYS
follows his bullshit to its logical conclusion. He is the most
Logical Extremist you could ever hope to meet.

ignatz topolino

chaosisrael

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Dec 23, 2002, 9:15:46 PM12/23/02
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MRvDC <brt...@dangermedia.org> wrote in message news:<3E074F9F...@dangermedia.org>...

> Joe Cosby wrote:
> > ::snippity snap snap::
> >
> > But I wasn't blind. I looked, and I saw the art fags. Getting
> > gallery shows over some piece of crap where they pissed on a canvas of
> > Jesus and called it PISS JESUS.
>
> Actually. It was PissChrist. He took a wee in a big jelly jar type
> thingy, plopped a crucifix inside, screwed the lid, and took a picture.
>
> I forget the name of the artist.

Robert Maplethorpe, IIRC.
The fact that he was as queer as ducks in the penguin house didn't
make him terribly popular with the the then-current Reagan
administration to begin with.


--
C.

chaosisrael

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Dec 23, 2002, 9:19:02 PM12/23/02
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Joe Cosby <joec...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote in message news:<tvjd0v40fbk52fn3n...@4ax.com>...

> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 00:39:43 -0800, nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote:
>
>
> Well, nenslo, I'll tell you what.
>
> [STFU-N]
>

Joe, you have destroyed my entire universe, and put it back together,
quark by quark.

PRACOSBY.


--
C.

chaosisrael

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Dec 23, 2002, 10:04:14 PM12/23/02
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El Queso <""the_cheese_23\"@(nospam)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3gLN9.56853$vb3.2...@news2.west.cox.net>...

I always imagine him as Niles Crane, posessed by the ghost of Peter Lorre.

--
c.

ICEKNIFE

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Dec 23, 2002, 11:47:27 PM12/23/02
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"Legume" <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote in message
news:Xns92EB6B88...@216.166.71.239...
> Yes, kids, it's true. In the middle of voting for Artist of the
Year, the
> Powers That Be at Renderosity.com decided to close down the vote;
stating
> that the administrators of the site are the ones who select the
Artist of
> the Year, unlike in every year past; they also state that they set
up the
> entire front-page story and voting poll with links to the candidates
> galleries BY ACCIDENT, and that this new voting procedure was a
policy
> secretly decided "some time ago".
>
> All this happens just as I'm about to overtake the front-runner,
who, by
> chance, happens to be a VENDOR at Renderosity, someone with an
established
> business relationship with the sponsor of the contest.
>
> If that's not a FIX, I don't know what is.


This matter is currently under investigation, by order of The
Director, code confirmation GILGAMESH, OPCON1:A0 01 07, 22/11/02.

Confirmed and relayed,

OPCON 3, A0 code ISKANDAR


ICEKNIFE

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Dec 24, 2002, 12:03:03 AM12/24/02
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"nu-monet v5.0" <not...@succeeds.com> wrote in message
news:3E04FC...@succeeds.com...


if you were the forces of evil instead of a SATIRE of them, I could
retire.

because you're NOT, I'm forced to HELP and HELP and HELP until NOTHING
LIVES.


now, the unfunny weeping time I so cherish...

YOU are not really the forces of EVIL...

*I* really *AM* the Forces of Good.


Know what THAT means?


yup.


we're FUCKED! OH GOD, WE ARE SOOOO FUCKED! HELP! HELP! THERE IS NO
GOD, NO ONE WILL SAVE US, THE CURE IS MUCH WORSE THAN THE DISEASE, IT
IS A KNIFE, IT SEES US AS A CANCER, OH FUUUUCK, WE'RE ALL DEAD FUCKIN'
DOOMED MEAT BY-PRODUCTS OF THE DAMNED! WE'RE FUCKED, FUCKED I TELL
YOU, AND *NOT* IN A *NICE* WAY!

please don't let me die until it's gone if i die it can get out and
nothing can save us i am all that stands between it and everything
else please help me survive so it can't get us all please please
please please ple

NICE TRY MEATBOT. NICE *LAST* TRY.


COMES THE HARVEST DARK WET AND SWEET
THE OCEANS WILL BOIL, THE SKIES WILL BURN
THICK THE AIR WITH THE SMOKE OF BURNT MEAT
WE DINE IN DELIGHT ON WHAT COULD NOT LEARN


and, uh....


BURMA SHAVE!


ICEKNIFE

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Dec 24, 2002, 12:11:11 AM12/24/02
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"Joe Cosby" <joec...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote in message
news:uvqc0vou2u2046kkr...@4ax.com...

The only women who've had fantasies of being ravaged by P.J. O'Rourke
are SO FUCKIN' UGLY that only someone like P.J. O'Rourke would fuck
them. This is sad for them, since one becomes someone like P.J.
O'Rourke by being impotent, and angry about it.


"It is not POSSIBLE to kill indiscriminately. The rational mind
discriminates against all humans at all times. Don't worry about it,
just go ahead and do what must be done. THE FUTURE STOPS HERE!"

ICEKNIFE, Bohemian Club
Speech, (C) 1998


ICEKNIFE

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Dec 24, 2002, 12:18:12 AM12/24/02
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"Legume" <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote in message
news:Xns92EC6AF0...@216.166.71.239...


FUCK you , Legume.

When YOU'VE been drained of Vril (and most bodily fluids) for over
two decades like Nenslo has, THEN you can talk. You emerging fuckwits
think because you've got talent, inspiration, and a bit of fame that
it gives you the right to make fun of collosal neverwuzes like Nenslo?
You think just because crushing fear of feeling good doesn't plague
you, that it makes it ok for you to tease poor pathetic Nensie?
Someday YOU might decide that feeling good doesn't last, and that
feeling bad is more realistic - THEN you can whine back at him with a
powerpout that can compete - until that day, keep your happy-flaps
SHUT, pretty-please.

You BASTARDHEAD!


ICEKNIFE

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Dec 24, 2002, 12:38:05 AM12/24/02
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THIS IS A POIM. I CALL IT "NENSLO".


****

I HACE THEM ARTS I KEEPS IN MY BUTT SO YOU CAN PROCTOSCOPES THEM AT
THE TIME WHEN YOU SEE ME TO BE THEM BRILLIANCE ARTEATS. UNTIL THEM YOU
CAN HACE WORSHIPINGNESS FOR ME AND MY ARTBUTT, AND SEND MONEY AND
CHEESES OF MANY LANDS AND KNIGHT ME AND SUCK MY PROTUBERANCES UNTIL I
SAY "NIMPYWUDD". TASTE THE MAGIC OF THE ARTBUTT IN CELESTIAL BESTIAL
MOTION, AND SMEAR HOW BRILLIANT I AM ALL OVER YOUR CHOAVISH REALMS,
YES, AND SO TO MAKE THE STAINS OF NICE FREEDOMS AND SMARTYNESS AND
FEELING GROOVY ALL UP IN YOUR TIME OF KNOWING AND BEING AND DOING, AND
DANCE WITH THEM SLIPPERY THINGS THAT MAKE YOU VOMIT LIKE YOU WANT
SOMETHING, BECAUSE YOU BITCHES IS SNARKLARPIN UP THE WRONG DRAINPIPE,
AND YER TONGUE IS GONNA GET STUCK. SO. GO INTO MY CLOSET AND I WILL
LOCK YOU IN WITH THEM LONESOME ARTBUTTFATS AND ARTBUTTFARTS AND YOU
WILL BECOME YET ANOTHER CARBUNCLE OF THE GESTICULATION FROM THE
ARTBUTT OF MY VERY, ALL THE TALENT AND GOOEY NICENESS TO JUST ABOVE
YOUR EYES AND YOU CAN NOT STAND AND YOU CAN NOT BREATHE AND YOU CAN
NOT RESIST AND SO BECOME IMMORTALIZED EVEN AS YOU FLOUNDER, DYING IN
DARKNESS AND THE WETSPOT OF A CALLOW AND WAN GOD OF DEEP GUNKYFUN.
LOVE ME! LOVE ME DAMN YOU! LOVE MEEEEEE! AND SHUT UP AND LOVE ME AND I
HATE YOU AND LOVE ME AND SHUT UP, IS (ARTBUTT) WHUT!


THIS WERM A POIM OFF ICEKNIFE AND IS PROLLY TOXIC.

THAT MEANS *WARNING* AND CAN MEAN YOU CAN DIE FROM IT IF YOU LIKE.


ICEKNIFE

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Dec 24, 2002, 12:54:16 AM12/24/02
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"Joe Cosby" <joec...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote in message
news:tvjd0v40fbk52fn3n...@4ax.com...

<pitiful longass pinkish excuse DELETED>


Talent has NOTHING to do with it.

Neither does skill.


I write because I HAVE TO.

Same reason Goomer renders, same reason Jon Trubee creates.


When there's no one reading, I write. When no one is watching, Goomer
makes art. When no one is listening, Trubee makes insane sounds he
can't replicate that will NEVER be heard again.

It's not ABOUT careers for frootyboys with delusions of adequacy.

IT'S A FUCKLING MENTAL ILLNESS, YOU STUPID NONFUCKABLE!

which is why you (and nenslo) don't have what it takes, and fucking
STANG *does*. Of course, if he reads that, I'll claim this post was
forged.

He cares if people like his stuff... but how they feel certainly
isn't enough to STOP him.

TRY THIS:

People don't LOVE your art? And that matters to you? SHOOT YOUR MOMMY
for failing to raise you in a manner that doesn't cause you to depend
on others for your emotional fulfilment. You whiny little bitchmonkey!


"You're not The Evil Doktor Crackbaby Pornmonkey! And where the FUCK
are my sea monsters???"
ICEKNIFE, whenever you can't run away


Her Ladyship Lilith von Fraumench

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Dec 24, 2002, 1:43:15 AM12/24/02
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In article <tvjd0v40fbk52fn3n...@4ax.com>, Joe Cosby
<joec...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote:

> And everybody I knew, were either playing the black black death metal
> sound, or the acid bleeding ears hippy sound.
>
> Or they were doing "Rush" covers.
>
> Or they were playing "Freebird" in dingy bars.
>
> Why?
>
> Because they loved Freebird? Because they loved "Rush"? Because they
> loved black black death metal?

YES YES YES. One day I shall BE that black black death metal band
playing Freebird as covered by Rush as covered by Hypocrisy as covered
by Emperor as covered by Wild Man Fisher as covered by ME, YA FUCK.

AND YOU'LL *LIKE* IT!!!


Her Ladyship Lilith

--
--=8=-- \m/ --=8=-- http://lilith.foolspress.com/ --=8=-- \m/ --=8=--


...As long as they're clean they don't have to be perfectly straight.

-- Rev. Magdalen, <1zML9.3579$Nz5.1...@twister.austin.rr.com>

Her Ladyship Lilith von Fraumench

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Dec 24, 2002, 1:48:03 AM12/24/02
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In article <uvqc0vou2u2046kkr...@4ax.com>, Joe Cosby
<joec...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote:

> People ask me if I've ever been called a Nazi. I answer that no one
> has ever had dreams of being tied down and sexually ravished by someone
> dressed as a liberal.
> - P.J. O'Rourke

Correction: Jack Chick has dreams like that ALL THE TIME.

Joe Cosby

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Dec 24, 2002, 1:46:04 AM12/24/02
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 22:43:15 -0800, Her Ladyship Lilith von Fraumench
<lil...@ZubJenius.com> wrote:

>In article <tvjd0v40fbk52fn3n...@4ax.com>, Joe Cosby
><joec...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> And everybody I knew, were either playing the black black death metal
>> sound, or the acid bleeding ears hippy sound.
>>
>> Or they were doing "Rush" covers.
>>
>> Or they were playing "Freebird" in dingy bars.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Because they loved Freebird? Because they loved "Rush"? Because they
>> loved black black death metal?
>
>YES YES YES. One day I shall BE that black black death metal band
>playing Freebird as covered by Rush as covered by Hypocrisy as covered
>by Emperor as covered by Wild Man Fisher as covered by ME, YA FUCK.
>
>AND YOU'LL *LIKE* IT!!!
>

Well, it would certainly be novel.

That would kick butt, actually.

But I think it's way beyond you.

The black black death metal version of "Freebird" as covered by Rush?

It would kick ass.

But you could never pull it off.

>
>Her Ladyship Lilith

"But, my dear man, reality is only a Rorschach
ink-blot, you know."

--Alan Watts

nenslo

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Dec 24, 2002, 2:04:22 AM12/24/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> nenslo wrote:
>
> <snip><More Drivel>
>
> Y'know, Nenslo, you sound more like Grandpa Simpson every day.

The most irritating thing about me is, YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT.

nenslo

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Dec 24, 2002, 2:08:20 AM12/24/02
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You're right, people shouldn't be allowed to decide how their own
website is run.

Joe Cosby

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Dec 24, 2002, 2:41:02 AM12/24/02
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:08:20 -0800, nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote:


>You're right, people shouldn't be allowed to decide how their own
>website is run.

Sure, good point, but let's face it, it isn't just "a couple guys
running a web site".

It would be nothing without the contributions of the artists on the
site.

West Bank to be redeveloped as Palestinian Heritage Theme Park.

nenslo

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Dec 24, 2002, 3:44:09 AM12/24/02
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Joe Cosby wrote:
>
>
> Do you know what it feels like to know your soul is being raped? Do
> you know what it means for that to be your life?
>
> You think you do, but you don't.

Well that settles that. Thank god SOMEBODY knows what I think I feel.

>
> You went for the life I didn't. You devoted yourself to it. And as
> you make clear, you FAILED.

Actually, what I failed at is making clear that if I operate in the
realm of "fine art," every time I touch brush to canvas I am in direct
competition with every artist who precedes me - so failure is
inevitable in that I may be able to paint better hands than Frans Hals
(and I can) but I can never get the luminous skin tones of Vermeer or
the eyewatering vibratory impact of Van Gogh or the wild echoing
spaces of Matta or the sharp clear solid edge of Robert Williams.
There will always be someone I can look at who does something better
than me, or does things I could never do, like fresco a ceiling. So
operating in that competitive mindframe is self-defeating, and being
around artfags - people "queer for art" - who can't blow a booger
into a hanky without saying the name of the artist whose work it
reminds them of is wearisome and does not put paint on canvas. That's
why when I paint I don't paint to get a gallery show, or be declared
artist of the year on some website; I paint to paint. My goal is to
do the picture I want to do the way I want to do it. Any artist who
does art as a form of competition has already failed. It's a
discipline, not a sport.

>
> I know.
>
> So you went for The Life. And you feel like you Fought The Good
> Fight. And what the fuck did it add up to?

This is stuff that YOU think, not anything I ever thought. I didn't
ever "go for The Life." I just did what I did and do what I do
without some picture of what it's SUPPOSED to be, what competition I
am supposed to win or what image I am supposed to project to convince
people I am what they want. Maybe that's why you crap-jackals get so
hacked off at me when I say what I think. Yeah, I have taken my
slides around to galleries and had them say "no thanks." I don't
judge them or the world by that, I don't have any feelings about it at
all except that they wanted something different from what I showed
them. I have also had galleries ASK me to show and I said "no thanks"
because I didn't think it would be worth the trouble. I don't have
any feelings about that either except a slight regret at being so
lazy. It's a lot of hassle to get a show set up, and very expensive
to do all the framing, and very BORING to be around artfags (people
"queer for art") and for some reason I am supposed to really want to
do it and have lots of people look at my art and tell me how great it
is; but I don't. I'm not constantly cursing the world for not
welcoming me into its bosom and putting me on the cover of Art News.
I don't do what people do who do that, and I don't want to. When I
put things up on Renderosity I was just happy that it was so easy, and
happy to see that twenty people had looked at a picture and that a
couple of people had taken the time to make positive comments about
it. I didn't get all torqued because 250 people looked at a space
fantasy poser chick picture and think it was totally unfair. That's
what people like.

>
> The thing is, I know people who made it. The whole pre-Nirvana club
> scene was all people I knew. It wasn't "grunge".
>
> In fact the "nirvana sound" wasn't really typical before nirvana. It
> was a strange mixture of a kind of acid neo-hippy-acid sound and a lot
> of 80's style heavy metal. It was distinctive, but it didn't have the
> sound that people now call "grunge". People fucking loved nirvana,
> before they made it big, people were hysterical for nirvana from day
> one. But it wasn't a style. It was them. It was this one particular
> band.
>
> So the rest of it, the 99 million out of a billion bands who didn't
> make it, were playing this other stuff, and most of them died.
>
> And everybody I knew, were either playing the black black death metal
> sound, or the acid bleeding ears hippy sound.
>
> Or they were doing "Rush" covers.
>
> Or they were playing "Freebird" in dingy bars.
>
> Why?
>
> Because they loved Freebird? Because they loved "Rush"? Because they
> loved black black death metal?
>
> The answer is no.
>
> But, the answer is also, in a continuous gradient from "freebird" to
> nirvana, "no, but they fooled themselves into believing that they did
> love it, because they could get $200 a night for it".

Well, see what I do is I go into my studio and I repair some books or
I run my sewing machine, or a couple of times a year I will paint, and
I will have a nice time. I don't go in there to suffer because
someone else's life is different from mine. I go do whatever project
I am doing until I feel like stopping. And the only reason is it's
something to do to fill the time and create the illusion of not having
wasted it.

>
> So what's my point?
>
> Even those who didn't sell out, sold out.
>
> Even those who didn't go corporate commercial Pepsi Jingle writer,
> sold out.
>
> Maybe they fooled themselves that they didn't.
>
> Maybe they convinced themselves that playing in that little
> off-the-freeway Renton bar, sneaking a few jazzy riffs in on the
> custom left handed five string bass, was a triumph, and if they had to
> do Freebird once an evening, well at least they weren't SELLOUTS.
>
> But of course, they were.

That's pretty good writing, I must say. But it has nothing to do with
me. I never even got that SELLOUT concept, never thought in those
terms. Never had any high concept of the honor and glory of "FINE
AHT" or what art IS or what it's FOR. I was and am interested in
getting what I have inside my head OUTSIDE my head, not to be
acclaimed but so it will STOP BOTHERING ME. And in order to do that
it was necessary to acquire skills. So I did. Then I ended up with
these dozens and dozens of paintings and constructions and drawings
and felt like I ought to try to do something with them, but it ended
up being too much like work.

>
> So whine at me about your tough life as a TRUE ARTEEST, nenslo.

Actually what I was doing was telling Legume NOT to whine. I guess
you missed that part. My life is pretty okay. You are very good at
having reactions to things you think I am thinking or things you
thought I meant when I said something, but I NEVER HEARD OF THAT STUFF
BEFORE.

>
> The simple fact is, that the internet, shit like mp3.com, is
> completely shattering the art world that existed in the past.
>
> The coke chain record industry faggots are DYING.
>
> It won't mean that every dipshit with a copy of Poser is going to be
> able to quit their day job and spend the day doing renders of
> Subgenius logos all day. But the playing field will be vastly more
> level. And the tiny, narrow, channels in which artists had to try to
> work in the past will be broken.
>
> And it won't matter if it's the "right style". Whether it's Piss
> Jesus or Freebird. It will just matter if it works.
>
> But if, and only if, sites like renderosity and mp3.com don't punk out
> completely to the advertising, corporate interests.
>
> Do you get it now?
>

No I don't. Renderosity isn't "punking out" to the "corporate
interests" you are just inventing out of thin air when they decide
that a person who does not represent the tastes of the vast majority
of their members would not be a suitable choice for artist of the
year. If anything, Renderosity IS the "corporate interest" and
expecting it to behave otherwise and promote individuality and
extremism rather than the norm is STUPID. STUPID STUPID STUPID. It's
their website and they have a right to run it the way they want. If
you have a website you can run it the way you want, and if I told you
you should run it differently you'd probably give me a longer and more
fascinating lecture than you have here.

But I've already seen that you don't believe people have the right to
run their website the way they want to. So you should get to work on
converting your website to THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF NENSLO. If you don't
then your some sort of corporate Microsoft monster.

> ***
>
> Well, you can take this as a flame, or a very good rant triggered by
> your random bullshit.

It's my standard line of bullshit. It was an interesting rant, in
that it showed more of your character than I have seen before. I have
only seen about three rants I thought were very good and they were all
by Sterno. I had to stop reading and look away from the screen until
I stopped laughing, over and over again. Now that's a good rant.
This one made me cringe sometimes, but I didn't laugh much.

>
> You should take it as the latter and be flattered.
>
> Which is a polite way of saying; "shut the fuck up, nenslo".
>

If I have something to say, I'll say it. And sometimes even if I don't.

nenslo

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Dec 24, 2002, 3:47:00 AM12/24/02
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Joe Cosby wrote:
>
>
> It would kick ass.
>
> But you could never pull it off.
>

Nobody could pull PeeLil's ass of, it's stuck on there tight.

Dave White

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Dec 24, 2002, 4:53:41 AM12/24/02
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>> Legume wrote:
>>
>> Hell, you at least *used* to be on the dark side. I hope I'm not alone
>> with Joe Cosby enjoying the sordid and perverse pleasure that comes
>> from being a naughty, naughty individual. PRABOB that Magdalen isn't
>> here or she would tell me to stop doing that or something.

Messing with the pea-branes of some Pink webmaster(s) is actually one of
the very few TRULY WRONG AND ANTISOCIAL activities that I can seriously
groove with. All sorts of anal-retentives go out on the Internet and
mistakenly think that they can enforce their braindamage on every
breathing soul who comes and visits their website, 'cause it's their dime.

Ownership isn't everything, and it can be supremely gratifying to watch
some monkeyboy learn that the hard way.

As a positive side effect, it tends to force said monkeyboy to learn about
running a secure website pretty damn quick, or get competent help.

Another positive side effect is that such TERRIBLE and ILLEGAL activities
give computer geeks the chance to feel like rampaging bikers in a bad
early 70's motorcycle gang flick.

Unfortunately, the era of the dumbass martinet webmaster with hardly a
clue is largely over; corporate sponsorship brings corporate-sponsored
geeks who can recognize and fix the targets of opportunity. This means
that a simple act of vandalism becomes as involved, complex, and dangerous
as a burglary, and raises the question of whether the result is worth the
risk.

On another note: What is the difference between "complaining" and
"whining"? Too often, it depends on whether the other guy gives a shit or
not. This is an unfortunate dilution of the perjorative meaning of
"whining", namely self-centered, impotent, and incessant complaining. This
is STUPID, since it makes important distinctions DISAPPEAR.

Yet another note: Slack is (also) the ability to break the moral rules you
make for yourself without becoming a sociopathic predator. "You can be
what you won't." Put another way, absolute moral stances cause the holder
of that opinion to ignore important bits of contextual information that
actually are CRUCIAL to making those important "right or wrong" decisions.

std::

nu-monet v5.0

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Dec 24, 2002, 10:29:46 AM12/24/02
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ICEKNIFE wrote:
>
> please don't let me die until it's gone if
> i die it can get out and nothing can save us
> i am all that stands between it and everything
> else please help me survive so it can't get us
> all please please please please ple
>
> NICE TRY MEATBOT. NICE *LAST* TRY.
>
> COMES THE HARVEST DARK WET AND SWEET
> THE OCEANS WILL BOIL, THE SKIES WILL BURN
> THICK THE AIR WITH THE SMOKE OF BURNT MEAT
> WE DINE IN DELIGHT ON WHAT COULD NOT LEARN
>
> and, uh....
>
> BURMA SHAVE!


Izzat sum kind of erroristic threat aginst the
Pres'dent of These Here United States of 'merica?

'Cause 'round these here parts we shoot people
look like you.

--
There's NO SUCH THING as SNUFF MONKEYS
in the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY!"

Bobdiddley

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Dec 24, 2002, 3:45:43 PM12/24/02
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Nenslo wrote:
>I was and am interested in
>getting what I have inside my head OUTSIDE my head, not to be
>acclaimed but so it will STOP BOTHERING ME. And in order to do that
>it was necessary to acquire skills. So I did.

This pretty much sums up my approach, as well. Except mine is songs. I learned
to play some instruments and learned how to run a tape recorder, because NO ONE
ELSE cared enough to get these songs out of my head. Years back, I gave a
cassette to Stang, and when pressed for comment, he said, "Sounds pretty
normal." I was devastated, until I recognized that he was right on and honest.
I write pretty normal songs. I feel like a SubGenius, I enjoy reading alt.slack
rants and trolls, I think yetibabes are luscious, but when it comes down to it,
I like to make music with a meter, chords, rhymes - all that dull normal stuff.
If you were to listen several times to them, you might discern a subtle dark
undertone, but you might not. I'll still write and record, even if I'm never
recognized by Subs nor Mals. I just don't wanna die with a bunch of sounds
locked inside my head.

Council Of Nineteen Motherfuckers

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Dec 24, 2002, 4:25:57 PM12/24/02
to
In article <3E081F02...@yahooX.com>, nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com>
wrote:

Never mind Nenslo, ever since he lost his childhood puppy to a golf
shoe he has never been the same. Just pack him in ice and make baby
noises, and he'll be OK.

Council Of Nineteen Motherfuckers

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Dec 24, 2002, 4:26:39 PM12/24/02
to
In article <5j0g0v09aujaf91mj...@4ax.com>, Joe Cosby
<joec...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote:

> But you could never pull it off.

Nah, I just don't wanna. I've got more devious musical plans than that.

Legume

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Dec 24, 2002, 6:15:08 PM12/24/02
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nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote:

> The most irritating thing about me is, YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT.
>

Sorry, Nenslo, that's not NEARLY the most irritating thing about you. And
not just because you're a deluded old turd slowly turning white and dusty.

--
Legume
----------
"I have been thinking about sitting down with Crazy Acid Burnout Man and
having a serious talk with him." - Ivan Stang

Legume

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Dec 24, 2002, 7:49:36 PM12/24/02
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nenslo wrote:

> Actually, what I failed at is making clear that if I operate in the
> realm of "fine art,"

Your "art" certainly gives us no clue.


>I can never get the luminous skin tones of Vermeer or
> the eyewatering vibratory impact of Van Gogh or the wild echoing
> spaces of Matta or the sharp clear solid edge of Robert Williams.

Don't feel so bad. Most people are just like you in that respect.



> There will always be someone I can look at who does something better
> than me, or does things I could never do, like fresco a ceiling.

Or go a whole day without shitting one's pants.

> I don't paint to get a gallery show, or be declared
> artist of the year on some website; I paint to paint.

Just like Bob Dean is "Media fasting".


>Maybe that's why you crap-jackals get so
> hacked off at me when I say what I think.

No, it's because you're a half-senile old tard.

> Yeah, I have taken my
> slides around to galleries and had them say "no thanks." I don't
> judge them or the world by that, I don't have any feelings about it at
> all except that they wanted something different from what I showed
> them.

Something that doesn't suck ass, for instance.

> I have also had galleries ASK me to show and I said "no thanks"
> because I didn't think it would be worth the trouble.

"Can I tape this to my floor to scare away roaches?", is NOT an invitation
to show at a gallery.

> I don't have
> any feelings about that either except a slight regret at being so
> lazy.

Good thing you're too stupid to regret being stupid. Or too old.

> lots of people look at my art and tell me how great it
> is

At least that's what Mom used to say before she passed on.


; but I don't. I'm not constantly cursing the world for not
> welcoming me into its bosom and putting me on the cover of Art News.

That's because you're too busy cursing it for your ugliness.

nenslo

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Dec 25, 2002, 1:18:41 AM12/25/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote:
>
> > The most irritating thing about me is, YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT.
> >
>
> Sorry, Nenslo, that's not NEARLY the most irritating thing about you. And
> not just because you're a deluded old turd slowly turning white and dusty.
>

But I AM right, and you know it.

nenslo

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Dec 25, 2002, 1:24:08 AM12/25/02
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Well I hope you feel better, little fella. Those were pretty suckass
weak flames that only made you look more like a feebly fuming
frustrated crank than the intelligent and creative individual I know
you are.

nenslo

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Dec 25, 2002, 1:26:19 AM12/25/02
to
Council Of Nineteen Motherfuckers wrote:
>
> In article <3E081F02...@yahooX.com>, nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Joe Cosby wrote:
> > >
> > > It would kick ass.
> > >
> > > But you could never pull it off.
> >
> > Nobody could pull PeeLil's ass of, it's stuck on there tight.
>
> Never mind Nenslo, ever since he lost his childhood puppy to a golf
> shoe he has never been the same. Just pack him in ice and make baby
> noises, and he'll be OK.
>

Well it is.

ICEKNIFE

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Dec 25, 2002, 7:47:58 AM12/25/02
to

"Dave White" <da...@i-one.at> wrote in message
news:pan.2002.12.24....@i-one.at...

> On another note: What is the difference between "complaining" and
> "whining"? Too often, it depends on whether the other guy gives a
shit or
> not. This is an unfortunate dilution of the perjorative meaning of
> "whining", namely self-centered, impotent, and incessant
complaining.

Look, cut it out. Nenslo can't help what he is. When you're old and
broken and worn out and fucked up and living life from day to day as
one huge throbbing raw nerve begging to be put to sleep, THEN you can
comment on his habits.


ICEKNIFE

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Dec 25, 2002, 7:49:36 AM12/25/02
to

"nu-monet v5.0" <not...@succeeds.com> wrote in message
news:3E087...@succeeds.com...

> ICEKNIFE wrote:
> >
> > please don't let me die until it's gone if
> > i die it can get out and nothing can save us
> > i am all that stands between it and everything
> > else please help me survive so it can't get us
> > all please please please please ple
> >
> > NICE TRY MEATBOT. NICE *LAST* TRY.
> >
> > COMES THE HARVEST DARK WET AND SWEET
> > THE OCEANS WILL BOIL, THE SKIES WILL BURN
> > THICK THE AIR WITH THE SMOKE OF BURNT MEAT
> > WE DINE IN DELIGHT ON WHAT COULD NOT LEARN
> >
> > and, uh....
> >
> > BURMA SHAVE!
>
>
> Izzat sum kind of erroristic threat aginst the
> Pres'dent of These Here United States of 'merica?
>
> 'Cause 'round these here parts we shoot people
> look like you.

I

Look like


your COMPUTER,


Dave.


Legume

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Dec 25, 2002, 11:57:37 AM12/25/02
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nenslo wrote:

> Well I hope you feel better, little fella. Those were pretty suckass
> weak flames that only made you look more like a feebly fuming
> frustrated crank than the intelligent and creative individual I know
> you are.

Hey, I target my material to the audience.

Friday Jones

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Dec 25, 2002, 6:33:11 PM12/25/02
to
In article <Xns92EF7A01...@216.166.71.239>, Legume
<no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote:

>nenslo wrote:
>
>> Well I hope you feel better, little fella. Those were pretty suckass
>> weak flames that only made you look more like a feebly fuming
>> frustrated crank than the intelligent and creative individual I know
>> you are.
>
>Hey, I target my material to the audience.

I have a piece of Nenslo art hanging beside my bed.

I like it, and look at it often, and occasionally touch it.

I ALSO have a piece of Legume art, but that is hanging over one of my
curtains, and is out of my reach.

--

łA strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I
advice the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives
boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the
ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no
character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of
your walks.˛
- Thomas Jefferson

SHERIFF OF HONK HONK

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Dec 26, 2002, 12:21:54 AM12/26/02
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fri...@fridayjones.com (Friday Jones) wrote in message news:<friday-ya02408000...@news.earthlink.net>...

> In article <Xns92EF7A01...@216.166.71.239>, Legume
> <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote:
>
> >nenslo wrote:
> >
> >> Well I hope you feel better, little fella. Those were pretty suckass
> >> weak flames that only made you look more like a feebly fuming
> >> frustrated crank than the intelligent and creative individual I know
> >> you are.
> >
> >Hey, I target my material to the audience.
>
> I have a piece of Nenslo art hanging beside my bed.
>
> I like it, and look at it often, and occasionally touch it.
>
> I ALSO have a piece of Legume art, but that is hanging over one of my
> curtains, and is out of my reach.
>
> --
>
> ³A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I

> advice the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives
> boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the
> ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no
> character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of
> your walks.²
> - Thomas Jefferson


WHAT IS THIS PLACE?


Frank is dead!
Open the windows !
go out and breath the automn air!
get out of the tomb!

lobs frieght winged mantis


************************************************************

'ZOOGS RIFT'" ALLEGED "PERSON" OR IS IT JUST "IMAGINARY PLAYMATE"?
~ GORGE CO

************************************************************

Who are you?

What is your name?

Do you understand? NAME? ~ Michael Gula, 1974

nenslo

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Dec 26, 2002, 1:03:11 AM12/26/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> nenslo wrote:
>
> > Well I hope you feel better, little fella. Those were pretty suckass
> > weak flames that only made you look more like a feebly fuming
> > frustrated crank than the intelligent and creative individual I know
> > you are.
>
> Hey, I target my material to the audience.
>

Which is why you've been voted artist of the year at Renderosity.

You keep this up and you're liable to hurt my feelings in about a
THOUSAND YEARS.

Council Of Nineteen Motherfuckers

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Dec 26, 2002, 1:12:21 AM12/26/02
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In article <3E0A9B9E...@yahooX.com>, nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com>
wrote:

That would require someone finding your feelings first--that'd take
another thousand at least.


Lilith von Fraumench
Council of Nineteen Motherfuckers

Legume

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Dec 26, 2002, 1:12:50 AM12/26/02
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nenslo news:

> Which is why you've been voted artist of the year at Renderosity.

Uh, Nenslo, I DIDN'T get voted artist of the year. Take your pills now,
Pappaw, your forgetting stuff. Remember the beginning of the thread?

>
> You keep this up and you're liable to hurt my feelings in about a
> THOUSAND YEARS.

You don't have feelings to hurt. You're a wretched bitter old failure, a
knobby and scabrous old hermit, and all you ever do is try to drag people
who aren't victims of some delusion of talent down into a loveless,
sexless, meatless little world just like yours.

Why don't you just go crawl back into the Mystery Hole for another seven
years?

nenslo

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Dec 26, 2002, 3:49:49 AM12/26/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> nenslo news:
>
> > Which is why you've been voted artist of the year at Renderosity.
>
> Uh, Nenslo, I DIDN'T get voted artist of the year. Take your pills now,
> Pappaw, your forgetting stuff. Remember the beginning of the thread?

Duuuhhh... WEEELY??? It's like this "irony" thing where one says the
OPPOSITE thing, see. PRETTY FUCKING SUBTLE. Try to grasp this - You
DIDN'T get voted artist of the year because you don't TARGET YOUR
MATERIAL TO THE AUDIENCE like you said, mister hyper-alert geniusy
figure-it-out guy. I thought you being such an on top of it fellow
and superior in every way and shit, you wouldn't miss that. BUT YOU
DID. I will now explain it real simple like - You didn't get voted
artist of the year because you don't do the LAME SPACE FANTASY POSER
CHICK CRAP that gets a person voted Renderosity Artist of the Year.
OH WHAT A TERRIBLE INSULT. No wonder you keep posting these limp
flames at me.


>
> You don't have feelings to hurt. You're a wretched bitter old failure, a
> knobby and scabrous old hermit, and all you ever do is try to drag people
> who aren't victims of some delusion of talent down into a loveless,
> sexless, meatless little world just like yours.

I guess I'm the worst kind of failure, to not even know what I failed
AT. When perceptive people tell me what a failure I am, and what it
is I failed at, it's always things I didn't even know I ever tried to
do. It sometimes makes me suspect that they just WANT me to be a
failure, so they will feel better about themselves. But that can't
possibly be true. That would be a pretty low way to be.

>
> Why don't you just go crawl back into the Mystery Hole for another seven
> years?

Ouch! Ooh that caused me to feel an actual sensation of physical pain!

Get this now. There's nothing you can ever say to me that will bother
me one bit unless I decide I want it to. You are just talking about a
phony made-up picture in your head that you call Nenslo, and it is
made out of YOUR ideas. It doesn't say a damn thing about me, but it
says a hell of a lot about you. If you want to have a lot of opinions
and feelings about a thing you just made up, go right ahead.

nenslo

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Dec 26, 2002, 3:53:29 AM12/26/02
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Council Of Nineteen Motherfuckers wrote:
>
> In article <3E0A9B9E...@yahooX.com>, nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Legume wrote:
> > >
> > > nenslo wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well I hope you feel better, little fella. Those were pretty suckass
> > > > weak flames that only made you look more like a feebly fuming
> > > > frustrated crank than the intelligent and creative individual I know
> > > > you are.
> > >
> > > Hey, I target my material to the audience.
> > >
> >
> > Which is why you've been voted artist of the year at Renderosity.
> >
> > You keep this up and you're liable to hurt my feelings in about a
> > THOUSAND YEARS.
>
> That would require someone finding your feelings first--that'd take
> another thousand at least.
>

I should think a person with as many soft spots as you have would be a
little more careful about what they say to an unfeeling monster like me.

Legume

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Dec 26, 2002, 10:09:09 AM12/26/02
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nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote in news:3E0AC2A8...@yahooX.com:

> Duuuhhh... WEEELY??? It's like this "irony" thing where one says the
> OPPOSITE thing, see. PRETTY FUCKING SUBTLE.

OK, Nenslo, I understand. Media fasting again.


> I guess I'm the worst kind of failure, to not even know what I failed
> AT.

Finally you're beginning to accept the truth.


>When perceptive people tell me what a failure I am, and what it
> is I failed at, it's always things I didn't even know I ever tried to
> do.

You'd know if you had a nice home nurse to make sure you get your senility
meds.

> It sometimes makes me suspect that they just WANT me to be a
> failure, so they will feel better about themselves. But that can't
> possibly be true.

It's not. You ARE a failure. And you smell like OLD.


That would be a pretty low way to be.

> Get this now. There's nothing you can ever say to me that will bother


> me one bit unless I decide I want it to.

Really? Even if I said "I peed on that muffin you just ate"?

>You are just talking about a
> phony made-up picture in your head that you call Nenslo

Well, it's certainly more interesting than the real thing.

>It doesn't say a damn thing about me, but it
> says a hell of a lot about you.

Ah, the infamous rubber/glue maneuver. Well played, Nenslo.

> If you want to have a lot of opinions
> and feelings about a thing you just made up, go right ahead.

Rubber/Glue countermaneuver.

nenslo

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Dec 27, 2002, 2:34:04 AM12/27/02
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Legume really settled nenslo's hash by saying:

>
> nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote in news:3E0AC2A8...@yahooX.com:
>
> > Duuuhhh... WEEELY??? It's like this "irony" thing where one says the
> > OPPOSITE thing, see. PRETTY FUCKING SUBTLE.
>
> OK, Nenslo, I understand. Media fasting again.
>
> > I guess I'm the worst kind of failure, to not even know what I failed
> > AT.
>
> Finally you're beginning to accept the truth.
>
> >When perceptive people tell me what a failure I am, and what it
> > is I failed at, it's always things I didn't even know I ever tried to
> > do.
>
> You'd know if you had a nice home nurse to make sure you get your senility
> meds.
>
> > It sometimes makes me suspect that they just WANT me to be a
> > failure, so they will feel better about themselves. But that can't
> > possibly be true.
>
> It's not. You ARE a failure. And you smell like OLD.


I'm leaving all those weak flames for any latecomers who may have
missed them.
There was a time many years ago that I would have resented being
called old.

>
> >You are just talking about a
> > phony made-up picture in your head that you call Nenslo
>

> >It doesn't say a damn thing about me, but it
> > says a hell of a lot about you.
>
> Ah, the infamous rubber/glue maneuver. Well played, Nenslo.

No, you actually aren't talking about ME. You are making up crazy
things about an imaginary person you call Nenslo. You don't know
anything about me. Believe whatever you want about your imaginary pal.

See, when people do namecalling they call people names they themselves
find most offensive. That's why nobody tries to insult people by
saying nice things about them. So the things you call your imaginary
Nenslo, the target for your namecalling, are all things from inside
your own head, the things you think are bad. You may have noticed I
tend to call people stupid, pompous, prejudiced, things like that
because those are the things I think are bad.

Legume

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Dec 27, 2002, 3:12:21 AM12/27/02
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nenslo wrote

> No, you actually aren't talking about ME. You are making up crazy
> things about an imaginary person you call Nenslo. You don't know
> anything about me. Believe whatever you want about your imaginary pal.
>
> See, when people do namecalling they call people names they themselves
> find most offensive. That's why nobody tries to insult people by
> saying nice things about them. So the things you call your imaginary
> Nenslo, the target for your namecalling, are all things from inside
> your own head, the things you think are bad. You may have noticed I
> tend to call people stupid, pompous, prejudiced, things like that
> because those are the things I think are bad.

Boring. Do better next time. Faggot.

Joe Cosby

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Dec 27, 2002, 3:12:09 AM12/27/02
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On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:12:21 -0600, Legume
<no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote:

>nenslo wrote
>> No, you actually aren't talking about ME. You are making up crazy
>> things about an imaginary person you call Nenslo. You don't know
>> anything about me. Believe whatever you want about your imaginary pal.
>>
>> See, when people do namecalling they call people names they themselves
>> find most offensive. That's why nobody tries to insult people by
>> saying nice things about them. So the things you call your imaginary
>> Nenslo, the target for your namecalling, are all things from inside
>> your own head, the things you think are bad. You may have noticed I
>> tend to call people stupid, pompous, prejudiced, things like that
>> because those are the things I think are bad.
>
>Boring. Do better next time. Faggot.

Close, but you're missing the rabbit up the sleeve.

Have you ever noticed how when somebody can't think of a comeback, all
of a sudden they become a super-sensitive psychoanalyst?

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nenslo

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Dec 27, 2002, 4:45:03 AM12/27/02
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Joe Cosby wrote:
>
> On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:12:21 -0600, Legume
> <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote:
>
> >nenslo wrote
> >> No, you actually aren't talking about ME. You are making up crazy
> >> things about an imaginary person you call Nenslo. You don't know
> >> anything about me. Believe whatever you want about your imaginary pal.
> >>
> >> See, when people do namecalling they call people names they themselves
> >> find most offensive. That's why nobody tries to insult people by
> >> saying nice things about them. So the things you call your imaginary
> >> Nenslo, the target for your namecalling, are all things from inside
> >> your own head, the things you think are bad. You may have noticed I
> >> tend to call people stupid, pompous, prejudiced, things like that
> >> because those are the things I think are bad.
> >
> >Boring. Do better next time. Faggot.
>
> Close, but you're missing the rabbit up the sleeve.
>
> Have you ever noticed how when somebody can't think of a comeback, all
> of a sudden they become a super-sensitive psychoanalyst?
>

Have you ever noticed how when somebody can't out-smart you they fling
infantile jibes?

Legume

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Dec 27, 2002, 9:56:03 AM12/27/02
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nenslo wrote
> Have you ever noticed how when somebody can't out-smart you they fling
> infantile jibes?

Have you ever noticed that Nenslo smells like old and pee?

Council Of Nineteen Motherfuckers

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Dec 27, 2002, 7:03:09 PM12/27/02
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In article <3E0AC383...@yahooX.com>, nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com>
wrote:

Yeah, you would think that. But we don't blame you for being a dumb
unfeeling monster--in fact, we wanna put you on exhibit so that we can
study you in your natural habitat.

OH WAIT--WE ALREADY *HAVE*!!! D'OH!!!

HellPopeHuey

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Dec 28, 2002, 12:21:50 AM12/28/02
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Legume <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote in message news:<Xns92F16567...@216.166.71.239>...

> nenslo wrote
> > Have you ever noticed how when somebody can't out-smart you they fling
> > infantile jibes?
>
> Have you ever noticed that Nenslo smells like old and pee?

So? Ya get more than four SubGeeners over the age of 20 together at
one time and the whole damned place starts to smell like a dialysis
clinic in Taipei.

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nenslo

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Dec 28, 2002, 1:31:39 AM12/28/02
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Legume wrote:
>
> nenslo wrote
> > Have you ever noticed how when somebody can't out-smart you they fling
> > infantile jibes?
>
> Have you ever noticed that Nenslo smells like old and pee?
>
Have you ever noticed that Legume can smell over the internet?

nenslo

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Dec 28, 2002, 1:33:33 AM12/28/02
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HellPopeHuey wrote:
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> Legume <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote in message news:<Xns92F16567...@216.166.71.239>...
> > nenslo wrote
> > > Have you ever noticed how when somebody can't out-smart you they fling
> > > infantile jibes?
> >
> > Have you ever noticed that Nenslo smells like old and pee?
>
> So? Ya get more than four SubGeeners over the age of 20 together at
> one time and the whole damned place starts to smell like a dialysis
> clinic in Taipei.
>

Personally I was thinking herpetarium.

Legume

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Dec 28, 2002, 4:39:15 PM12/28/02
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nenslo wrote

> Have you ever noticed that Legume can smell over the internet?

Don't blame me if you own a shitty old computer without stink ports.

HellPopeHuey

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Dec 29, 2002, 12:47:16 AM12/29/02
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Legume <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote in message news:<Xns92F2A9C4...@216.166.71.239>...

> nenslo wrote
>
> > Have you ever noticed that Legume can smell over the internet?
>
> Don't blame me if you own a shitty old computer without stink ports.

Well, even so, it beats purple's Imaginary Penis. Not that anyone
would want to do so if it DID really exist. Haw haw, guess THAT nailed
his Iamginary Foreskin to the wall!

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Dec 29, 2002, 12:40:49 PM12/29/02
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"HellPopeHuey" <hellpo...@subgenius.com> wrote in message
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> Legume <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns92F16567...@216.166.71.239>...
> > nenslo wrote
> > > Have you ever noticed how when somebody can't out-smart you they fling
> > > infantile jibes?
> >
> > Have you ever noticed that Nenslo smells like old and pee?
>
> So? Ya get more than four SubGeeners over the age of 20 together at
> one time and the whole damned place starts to smell like a dialysis
> clinic in Taipei.
>
hrmm I was under the impression I was in the group of "younger" subgenii and
I am 25, I mean aren't 99% of the subgenii of the age of 20 anyhow, or is
that the point?

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The Stinking Bishop Prostata Cantata MP

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Dec 29, 2002, 2:24:52 PM12/29/02
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In article <uuQGrF2rCHA.1632@cpimsnntpa03>,

Priestess Pisces <prieste...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> So? Ya get more than four SubGeeners over the age of 20 together at
>> one time and the whole damned place starts to smell like a dialysis
>> clinic in Taipei.
>>
>hrmm I was under the impression I was in the group of "younger" subgenii and
>I am 25, I mean aren't 99% of the subgenii of the age of 20 anyhow, or is
>that the point?


Yep, we all smell.

Hell, My B.O. can kill vultures while they're feeding on a week old summer
roadkill skunk 500meters away.


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Dec 29, 2002, 3:35:17 PM12/29/02
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Voice in the desert: Quiet, isn't it, Priestess Pisces?

> hrmm I was under the impression I was in the group of "younger" subgenii
and
> I am 25, I mean aren't 99% of the subgenii of the age of 20 anyhow, or is
> that the point?

I'm in my mid-30s, head towards late-30s.

OTOH, I hardly ever post here.
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Dec 30, 2002, 5:29:59 PM12/30/02
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nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote in message news:<3E0C026B...@yahooX.com>...

> See, when people do namecalling they call people names they themselves
> find most offensive. That's why nobody tries to insult people by
> saying nice things about them. So the things you call your imaginary
> Nenslo, the target for your namecalling, are all things from inside
> your own head, the things you think are bad. You may have noticed I
> tend to call people stupid, pompous, prejudiced, things like that
> because those are the things I think are bad.

That is SO true! I mean, I totally think walnuts are bad! They
shouldn't even be called nuts. They should replace all walnuts with
pecans. I mean, pecans about the same size and shape and they taste
so much better. Only some crazy old hippie would make walnut pancakes
instead of pecan ones.

Well, off to do more vacating.


PS I saw that, about the fishes and the pooping etc. You kids are all
in big trouble.

Joe Cosby

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Dec 30, 2002, 5:37:08 PM12/30/02
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On 30 Dec 2002 14:29:59 -0800, magd...@subgenius.com (Rev. Mary
Magdalen) wrote:

sig

They should replace all walnuts with pecans.

- Rev. Mary Magdalen

nenslo

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Dec 30, 2002, 9:52:29 PM12/30/02
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"Rev. Mary Magdalen" wrote:
>
> nenslo <nen...@yahooX.com> wrote in message news:<3E0C026B...@yahooX.com>...
>
> > See, when people do namecalling they call people names they themselves
> > find most offensive. That's why nobody tries to insult people by
> > saying nice things about them. So the things you call your imaginary
> > Nenslo, the target for your namecalling, are all things from inside
> > your own head, the things you think are bad. You may have noticed I
> > tend to call people stupid, pompous, prejudiced, things like that
> > because those are the things I think are bad.
>
> That is SO true! I mean, I totally think walnuts are bad! They
> shouldn't even be called nuts. They should replace all walnuts with
> pecans. I mean, pecans about the same size and shape and they taste
> so much better. Only some crazy old hippie would make walnut pancakes
> instead of pecan ones.

Waffles. Only some skanky poebucker hag would confuse pancakes with waffles.
I have a nifty little waffle iron looks just like a flying saucer.

And pecans are twice as much as walnuts here in Yeti Country. Pecans
are Texans' only compensation for being in Texas. I often use
hazelnuts, of which Oregon is the world's largest producer. They
actually ship them to Europe to make into Nutella.

>
> Well, off to do more vacating.
>

You can get MORE vacant?

The Stinking Bishop Prostata Cantata MP

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Dec 30, 2002, 10:01:14 PM12/30/02
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In article <bf2ea6cf.0212...@posting.google.com>,

Rev. Mary Magdalen <magd...@subgenius.com> wrote:

>shouldn't even be called nuts. They should replace all walnuts with
>pecans. I mean, pecans about the same size and shape and they taste
>so much better. Only some crazy old hippie would make walnut pancakes
>instead of pecan ones.


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Jan 2, 2003, 3:11:57 PM1/2/03
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FAILED ART FAG? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Jan 16, 2003, 1:35:58 PM1/16/03
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WHAT EXACTLY IS A FAILED ART FFAG ANYWAY?

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HellPopeHuey

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Jan 16, 2003, 7:56:57 PM1/16/03
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Legume <no-e...@fuckthespammers.com> wrote in message news:<Xns92F0CB0...@216.166.71.239>...

> Why don't you just go crawl back into the Mystery Hole for another seven
> years?

That's a perfectly awful way to refer to Mrs. Nenslo's genitalia. She
might be a lovely woman for all we know. Don't judge her so, just
because her mate is an ambulatory crab puff 4 stories high.

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Jan 16, 2003, 9:39:20 PM1/16/03
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In article <sXCV9.1336$ZF.5...@news.uswest.net>,
"BObHein5MEIN4684610OOO\\\\///^^\\\\\\//"
<BMuffin1...@aol.com.commie.comANTID> wrote:

>WHAT EXACTLY IS A FAILED ART FFAG ANYWAY?

One that nobody bothers to smoke.

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nenslo

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Jan 18, 2003, 4:36:40 AM1/18/03
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BObHein5MEIN4684610OOO\\\\///^^\\\\\\// wrote:
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> WHAT EXACTLY IS A FAILED ART FFAG ANYWAY?
>

It's like a "sleeping cadaver."

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