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Carl M. Kadie

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Oct 2, 1991, 8:57:29 PM10/2/91
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ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:

> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> can prove or arrange any of the following:
>
>1. Prove there was -one- gas chamber in Europe for the
> purposes of genocide during World War II.
[...]

Do you have a certified check? Have you established rules explaining
how a third party, acceptable to both you and the challenger will hold
the check until awarding it to the winner?

- Carl
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Ralph Winston

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Oct 1, 1991, 9:54:14 PM10/1/91
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There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
can prove or arrange any of the following:

1. Prove there was -one- gas chamber in Europe for the
purposes of genocide during World War II.

2. Prove there was -one- person gassed in a so-called gas
chamber in Europe during World War II.

3. Prove there were -one- million Jews who died from all
causes in the European theater during World War II.

4. Prove _The Diary of Anne Frank_ is not a hoax.

5. Convince a major U.S. network to televise and show proof
of televising "Tour of Auschwitz Fakes" (written and
narrated by Ditlieb Felderer, a Jew) on nationwide TV in
prime time.

6. Convince a major U.S. network to televise and show proof
of televising a debate on the so-called "Holocaust
gassings" in prime time with three participants chosen by
the Exterminationists and three chosen by the
Revisionists. Two hour minimum.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please leave me mail or, if that is impossible, post a public
message if you are interested in challenging this reward. I personally
guarantee that this offer is genuine and that the $50,000.00 will be paid
to one who can fulfill it.

Ralph Winston

Come and get your money, exterminationists!

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Todd Bernhard

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Oct 3, 1991, 1:41:28 AM10/3/91
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I have a standing offer of $1.98 to one who can provide the following:

1) a photocopy of Ralph Winston's drivers license AND a photocopy of
George Martin's drivers license (i.e. they're real, and not the same)

2) a photocopy of the cashier's check for $50,000 that Ralph will
provide, as detailed below.

---todd

In article <45369...@b-cpu.UUCP> ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:
>
> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> can prove or arrange any of the following:
>
>1. Prove there was -one- gas chamber in Europe for the
> purposes of genocide during World War II.
>2. Prove there was -one- person gassed in a so-called gas
> chamber in Europe during World War II.
>3. Prove there were -one- million Jews who died from all
> causes in the European theater during World War II.
>4. Prove _The Diary of Anne Frank_ is not a hoax.
>

> Please leave me mail or, if that is impossible, post a public
>message if you are interested in challenging this reward. I personally
>guarantee that this offer is genuine and that the $50,000.00 will be paid
>to one who can fulfill it.
>
> Ralph Winston


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Howard Shubs

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Oct 2, 1991, 7:40:37 PM10/2/91
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In article <45369...@b-cpu.UUCP> ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:
> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> can prove or arrange any of the following:

I want -proof- of this!
--
Howard S Shubs hsh...@eff.org I don't represent the EFF,
The Denim Adept hshubs@BYTECOSY but I do agree with them.

antis...@st1.vuw.ac.nz

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Oct 2, 1991, 9:26:16 PM10/2/91
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ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) snarls (among other things):

> Prove there was -one- gas chamber in Europe for the purposes of genocide
during World War II.
> Prove there was -one- person gassed in a so-called gas chamber in Europe
during World War II.
> Prove there were -one- million Jews who died from all causes in the European
theater during World War II.
> Prove _The Diary of Anne Frank_ is not a hoax.

What standard of proof do you need ? IMHO the exhibited narrow-mindedness,
bias, and rank stupidity of the Banished BBS crowd posting here wouldn't be
satisfied if the clouds opened up and a loud voice from above testified.

BTW Ralphie, hows the reading into military logistics going ?

> Come and get your money, exterminationists!

Strange, I don't remember exterminating anyone...

--
Tony Quirke c/o ANTISCHUTZ(Christian Grams), antis...@ST1.VUW.AC.NZ
What I just wrote is not NZ's, VUW's and perhaps not even MY opinion.
"Ah, I see, and how many worshippers DO you have ?"
"I used to have three, but one died, one escaped, and the third is a
congenital idiot ! I'm not sure they count him, the bastards !"

Jeremy Reimer

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Oct 3, 1991, 1:17:36 AM10/3/91
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ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:

> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> can prove or arrange any of the following:
>
> 1. Prove there was -one- gas chamber in Europe for the
> purposes of genocide during World War II.
>
> 2. Prove there was -one- person gassed in a so-called gas
> chamber in Europe during World War II.
>
> 3. Prove there were -one- million Jews who died from all
> causes in the European theater during World War II.
>
> 4. Prove _The Diary of Anne Frank_ is not a hoax.
>
> 5. Convince a major U.S. network to televise and show proof
> of televising "Tour of Auschwitz Fakes" (written and
> narrated by Ditlieb Felderer, a Jew) on nationwide TV in
> prime time.
>
> 6. Convince a major U.S. network to televise and show proof
> of televising a debate on the so-called "Holocaust
> gassings" in prime time with three participants chosen by
> the Exterminationists and three chosen by the
> Revisionists. Two hour minimum.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Please leave me mail or, if that is impossible, post a public
> message if you are interested in challenging this reward. I personally
> guarantee that this offer is genuine and that the $50,000.00 will be paid
> to one who can fulfill it.

First of all, you don't HAVE $50,000.

Secondly, even if you did, you would never believe any proofs that anyone
presented anyway.

I'll give you $50,000,000 if you can *** PROVE *** that World War II happened.
Personally I think it was just a big conspiracy. If you do that, I'll throw
in an extra million if you *** PROVE *** that you exist. I very much doubt
that you do because no creature of the species Homo Sapiens could possibly be
so mind-bogglingly stupid.

So go ahead-- PROVE me wrong! (I'm sure you're too busy right now trying to
PROVE that you have a life, which must be a difficult task indeed, so no
hurry!)

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the Cat, the Lunatic George: What time is it? fun, fun, fun...
-------------------- Edmund: Three o'clock in the afternoon ------------------
THE COMFY CHAIR?!?! George: Oh thank GOD for that I thought I'd overslept!

br...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu

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Oct 3, 1991, 5:08:20 PM10/3/91
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In article <45369...@b-cpu.UUCP>, ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:
> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> can prove or arrange any of the following:

You're going to have to define what you mean by proof.

I mean, it seems to me that you're excluding eyewitness accounts, a
wide variety of records (medical, etc.), physical evidence and so on.
I'm willing to concede that all such evidence could easily be forged,
but that leaves us with the question of what might be more certain.
So please be specific about what you want people to produce. After
all, if you're not willing to accept ANYTHING as proof, then your
offer is just a lot of noise.

So what'll you take?

Larry Margolis

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Oct 3, 1991, 5:05:30 PM10/3/91
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In <45369...@b-cpu.UUCP> ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:
> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> can prove or arrange any of the following:
>
> 1. Prove there was -one- gas chamber in Europe for the
> purposes of genocide during World War II.
>
> 2. Prove there was -one- person gassed in a so-called gas
> chamber in Europe during World War II.
>
> 3. Prove there were -one- million Jews who died from all
> causes in the European theater during World War II.
>
> 4. Prove _The Diary of Anne Frank_ is not a hoax.

What constitutes "proof"? Eye-witness accounts? Documents? Photographs?

Who decides the proof is satisfactory?

> I personally guarantee that this offer is genuine

Well, your word is certainly proof enough for me! :-)

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (bitnet), mar...@watson.IBM.com (csnet)

David Marc Nieporent

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Oct 4, 1991, 12:20:22 AM10/4/91
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In article <45369...@b-cpu.UUCP> ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:

> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> can prove or arrange any of the following:

>1. Prove there was -one- gas chamber in Europe for the
> purposes of genocide during World War II.

>2. Prove there was -one- person gassed in a so-called gas
> chamber in Europe during World War II.

>3. Prove there were -one- million Jews who died from all
> causes in the European theater during World War II.

>4. Prove _The Diary of Anne Frank_ is not a hoax.

>5. Convince a major U.S. network to televise and show proof
> of televising "Tour of Auschwitz Fakes" (written and
> narrated by Ditlieb Felderer, a Jew) on nationwide TV in
> prime time.

>6. Convince a major U.S. network to televise and show proof
> of televising a debate on the so-called "Holocaust
> gassings" in prime time with three participants chosen by
> the Exterminationists and three chosen by the
> Revisionists. Two hour minimum.

>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Ralph Winston

At the risk of humoring Adolph here, I've got to reply. I'll give
$50,000 to anyone who can *prove* that

1. World War II happened.
2. Europe exists.
3. He or she exists.

David M. Nieporent niep...@phoenix.princeton.edu

John A. Weeks III

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Oct 3, 1991, 7:06:40 PM10/3/91
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In article <1991Oct2.2...@eff.org> hsh...@eff.org (Howard Shubs) writes:
> In article <45369...@b-cpu.UUCP> ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:
> > There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> > can prove or arrange any of the following:

> I want -proof- of this!

Something like this was recently discussed on the CBC's "As It Happens".
It was mentioned that anyone who claims that the holocoust did not happen,
or that it was not done by the Germans, can be arrested in several
countries (Canada included, if I remember correctly).

-john-

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NeWave Communications, Ltd. ...uunet!tcnet!newave!john

Bill Monhemius

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Oct 4, 1991, 12:57:11 PM10/4/91
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I'll give a $BILLION if anyone can prove that the chair I'm sitting on
exists. A $TRILLION if you can prove I have free-will (as opposed to
a predetermined life). =8^P

Mr. Winston go to the store and buy a clue.... 8^(

(if you exist)

- Bill Monhemius

Timothy Tim Murphy

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Oct 4, 1991, 5:54:23 PM10/4/91
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Ralph,

Why don't you try opening a history book, encyclopedia ar William R.
Shirer's book on the Third Reich? It's called "The Rise and Fall of the
Third Reich", and it later became a three - part documentary that won
acclaim as the first serious look at the results of the killing of *six*
million Jews.

The interesting thing about me saying this is that I has no problems
with WWII except that the kiling of innocents (Jews, Slavs, Poles,
etc...) grew to such an unacceptable extreme. The murder of any
innocents is unfortunate, but never had it occurred on such a vast scale.

BTW, I'm not completely sure of your position. Are you Jewish or a
National Socialist?

Tim Murphy


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Scott `The_Edge` Yanoff

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Oct 5, 1991, 12:31:54 AM10/5/91
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I'll give $50K to anyone who can prove the following:

*1* You don't really lose socks the dryer just because you put two in and only
one comes back.

*2* R.E.M. thinks out their lyrics for weeks and weeks before writing them.

*3* That even a PB&J sandwich is better than bad sex.

Of course, I am joking. I hope my lightheartedness proves a point.

By the way, just to not make this a Jewish issue, what about the 1 million
christians Hitler exterminated too?


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Graham Toal

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Oct 4, 1991, 9:00:55 PM10/4/91
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>ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:
>
>> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
>> can prove or arrange any of the following:

Funny, it was only $5000 a minute ago:

>Subject: Re: $5,000.00 REWARD to one who can prove or arrange one of these:

You wouldn't be trying to inflate the figures by a factor of 10, would you? ;-)

G

Scott Cromar

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Oct 6, 1991, 3:07:29 PM10/6/91
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In article <45369...@b-cpu.UUCP> ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:

> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> can prove or arrange any of the following:

Didn't Mel Murmelstein win a lawsuit against these people when he
demonstrated that this group isn't serious about actually paying up?
As I recall, he aslo obtained a finding that the Holocaust had, in
fact, occured.
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the hard choices--the only important kind."
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Tad Cook

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Oct 7, 1991, 2:56:44 AM10/7/91
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In article <45369...@b-cpu.UUCP>, ral...@b-cpu.UUCP (Ralph Winston) writes:
>
> There is a standing offer of $50,000.00 to one who
> can prove or arrange any of the following:
>
> 1. Prove there was -one- gas chamber in Europe for the
> purposes of genocide during World War II.
>
> 2. Prove there was -one- person gassed in a so-called gas
> chamber in Europe during World War II.
>
> 3. Prove there were -one- million Jews who died from all
> causes in the European theater during World War II.
>
>
> Please leave me mail or, if that is impossible, post a public
> message if you are interested in challenging this reward. I personally
> guarantee that this offer is genuine and that the $50,000.00 will be paid
> to one who can fulfill it.
>

Its already been proven. The Institute of Historical Review put up
this "reward", and some folks representing holocaust survivors who
were sick of these idiots pretending that the whole sorry affair
never happened took them up on it. The whole thing ended up in
court, and the "Institute" was ordered to pay up!


Tad Cook
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Scott Cromar

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Oct 8, 1991, 7:42:47 PM10/8/91
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t...@ssc.wa.com (Tad Cook) writes:

> Its already been proven. The Institute of Historical Review put up
> this "reward", and some folks representing holocaust survivors who
> were sick of these idiots pretending that the whole sorry affair
> never happened took them up on it. The whole thing ended up in
> court, and the "Institute" was ordered to pay up!

Has the Institute paid up? Well, "Ralph," has it? If not, why should
we go through the effort?

Has anyone else noticed how quiet "Ralph" has been these last couple
of days? It's really been quite pleasant. Maybe he's just writing up
all of our $50,000 checks...

--Scott "mail mine care of the Rutgers Math Dept" Cromar

Gene Gross

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Oct 17, 1991, 2:43:50 PM10/17/91
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Tim:

You are asking them to do something rational and reasonable. And from
what I can tell, this is a totally foreign concept to them.

I have read the testimony of both guards and inmates in the death
camps. The guards admit to the use of gas to kill hundreds upon
hundreds of Jews and others in the camps. There is testimony sworn to
by Nazi SS men that Jews were often rounded up and shot; then dumped
into mass graves. But more damning is the photography (including
filmed incidents) of the Nazis doing this very thing. But all of this
is discounted in one way or another.

Well, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. The
same with people like this. They are so afraid of one thing or
another that they throw reason out the window. They are, in the words
of one of C. S. Lewis' characters, bent people.

But let them rant and rave on -- the rest of the world can see them
for what they are. Someday we'll lance this boil and be rid of it.

Gene Gross

Disclaimer: My company doesn't speak for me on these matters, nor do
I speak for them on these matters. Anyone who has a problem with my
point of view has a personal problem.

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