Your user misbehaving on Usenet newsgroups
Gary Stark
I am writing you this note to bring to your attention the abuse being
perpetrated by a person who appears to be one of your users. The person
in question is Nikolaos Lazaridis, and he posts his messages under the
name of Ilias.
This individual constantly and frequently trolls the
comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects newsgroup, posting inflammatory and
innacurate articles, in contravention of the charter of the newsgroup
and usenet rules.
This user continues, despite repeated requests from members of the
community served by this newsgroup, to post his misinformation. I can
assure you that, as a person who has been closely involved (for 10 years
now) with the product served by the newsgroup, Nikolaos lacks the
fundamental knowledge of the product, its history, or its capabilities
for him to be able to post meaningful responses to others. It is a
constant concern of many that some newer members of the newsgroup may
read his posts and regard them as reasonable and factual, when in fact
nothing could be further from the truth.
Regretfuly, I believe that it is now an appropriate time to turn to you,
his content provider, with a request for you to ban him from using this
facility.
To assist you in addressing this matter I am enclosing header
information from several of this person's recent postings to this group.
I would appreciate any action you can take to ensure that this person no
longer disrupts this newsgroup's conduct of its business.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
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From:
ilias <use...@abeon.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects
Subject:
Re: ADS
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From:
ilias <use...@abeon.com>
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Re: ADS
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From:
ilias <use...@abeon.com>
Newsgroups:
comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects
Subject:
[ADS] - Extended Systems Inc. does not care
about VO!
Date:
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--
g.
Gary Stark
gst...@RedbacksWeb.com
http://RedbacksWeb.com
Gary Stark
As you can see, I've had enough of his moronic outbursts.
I have forwarded the following email to ab...@uni-berlin.de, who appear to be the Silly Ass's current upstream host.
I would encourage all of you to gather some header information from your own files, and send a similar message to ab...@uni-berlin.de so that we can have him banned from here.
His abuse of the charter for this ng has gone on for far too long.
ilias
<nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> wrote:
>Sir,
>
>I am writing you this note to bring to your attention the abuse being
>perpetrated by a person who appears to be one of your users. The person
>in question is Nikolaos Lazaridis, and he posts his messages under the
>name of Ilias.
[...]
You conclude that "ilias" is not my name, as there is a person with
the same surname in the town in which i probably live?
"[...]
But I can also tell you that Illias Lazardis has an address in
Germany. It's in the same city that a Nikolaos Lazaridis also
maintains an address.
[...]"
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=3EEA85FA.5DD5B04A%40RedbacksWeb.com
-
I remind you:
"[...]
What do you think?
Will i "crawl back into my little hole"?
Or will i react?
[...]"
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=bce88o%2462a%241%40newsreader.mailgate.org
-
[please could some friend of this friendly human drop him an email (or
give him a call) to bring him back to reality? ]
David Dupuy
Gary
Thank you for taking the initiative. You have my support - email
already sent.
Well Done!
David Dupuy
Guarde Software
--
Posted via http://dbforums.com
Paul De Bie
I am really afraid that you might experience serious health problems (maybe
even a nervous breakdown <g>) if you continue to get so upset with Ilias.
Paul
"Gary Stark" <nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> schreef in bericht
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Gary Stark
He's blocked - I was the first to block the silly ass, I believe - but all of
the turds that are left here because of others responding and reposting leaves
us with no alternative but to go to his ISP.
If the ISP has an AUP, they'll actually cancel his account. It's worth a shot.
I'm actually very close to posting his address here, btw. It's just that I don't
want to lower myself to his complete absence of standards. Lest anyone get
concerned that I'd be posting private information, all that I'll be posting is
information that is already on the public record.
Hopefully the foul smelling angry little cretin will just go away, but if we
innundate his ISP with requests to ban him, the worst that can happen is
nothing, and the best is bye bye silly ass.
ilias
>On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:34:59 +1000, Gary Stark
><nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> wrote:
>
>>Sir,
>>
>>I am writing you this note to bring to your attention the abuse being
>>perpetrated by a person who appears to be one of your users. The person
>>in question is Nikolaos Lazaridis, and he posts his messages under the
>>name of Ilias.
[to the readers]
Gentle as i am, I've already introduced myself to this community:
[OT] - usenet <vo...@null.com> => ilias <use...@abeon.com>
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=35a10d4c.03060...@posting.google.com
-
But there's some paranoia that i am a 'horse':
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=79193847812.20030613142509%40sas-software.nl
-
Anyway, do whatever you like.
And never forget:
Democracy - Rules - Priorities !
Walt R. Jesse
<nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> wrote:
Hi Gary
>All,
>
>As you can see, I've had enough of his moronic outbursts.
>
>I have forwarded the following email to ab...@uni-berlin.de, who appear to be the Silly Ass's current upstream host.
>
>I would encourage all of you to gather some header information from your own files, and send a similar message to ab...@uni-berlin.de so that we can have him banned from here.
Done.
silly ass sounds like (s)ilias <g>
Regards
Walt
PS: Now I do what (s)ilias always does (could not resist):
http://members.aol.com/matze1999/SK98/SK98Homepage.html
Gary Stark
> >I would encourage all of you to gather some header information from your own files, and send a similar message to ab...@uni-berlin.de so that we can have him banned from here.
>
> Done.
>
> silly ass sounds like (s)ilias <g>
Purely coincidental, I assure you.
:)
Gary Stark
> PS: Now I do what (s)ilias always does (could not resist):
> http://members.aol.com/matze1999/SK98/SK98Homepage.html
>
>
You forgot [something] but I can't [figure out] ??? what >>>
Walt R. Jesse
<nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> wrote:
>Walt.
>
>
>> >I would encourage all of you to gather some header information from your own files, and send a similar message to ab...@uni-berlin.de so that we can have him banned from here.
>>
>> Done.
>>
>> silly ass sounds like (s)ilias <g>
>
>Purely coincidental, I assure you.
>
>:)
Gary
Have sent this eMail to ab...@uni-berlin.de (abuse ?)
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren
Gerne möchte ich Herrn Gary Stark beipflichten.
Dieser Person (Ilias, Nikolaos Lazaridis oder wie er sonst heissen
mag) ist untragbar in unserem Newsgroup
(comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects)
Hat offensichtlich vom Thema (Visual-Objects) keinen Schimmer,
versucht aber durch durchwegs negative Ansichten, unbegründete
Besserwisserei, und Pauschalbehauptungen Unruhe zu stiften und
Mitglieder unseres Newsgroups die nicht so sattelfest sind, zu
verunsichern, ja sogar auf den falschen Weg zu führen.
Wenn Sie an Beispiele interessiert sind, sehen Sie bitte in unserem
Newsgroup nach.
mit freundlichen Grüssen
Walt R. Jesse
[Gary]
PS.: If you cannot read german, don't worry, (s)ilias will translate
this for you.
Gary Stark
Great stuff. Thanx.
"Walt R. Jesse" wrote:
I'm not so sure that he can; can he read ?
:)
Then again, I probably won't see it, because he's killfiled!
Florian Eggenberger
> Purely coincidental, I assure you.
No Gary, how did they use to say in old Rome: Nomen est omen!
So, Walt can't be wrong.
--
Have a nice and peaceful day!
Florian Eggenberger, PROFICON AG, Triesen/Liechtenstein
Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition
from weak minds. --Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Marc Verkade [Marti BV]
Grtz, Marc
"Gary Stark" <nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> schreef in bericht
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Gary Stark
Florian Eggenberger wrote:
> Hi Gary
>
> > Purely coincidental, I assure you.
> No Gary, how did they use to say in old Rome: Nomen est omen!
They spoke Germain in old Rome?
<g>
> So, Walt can't be wrong.
Of course not!
Walt R. Jesse
<nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> wrote:
>Florian
>
>Florian Eggenberger wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary
>>
>> > Purely coincidental, I assure you.
>> No Gary, how did they use to say in old Rome: Nomen est omen!
>
>They spoke Germain in old Rome?
No, obviously english <g>
Meinhard Schnoor-Matriciani
you want to keep him away ? Spam his mailbox with X11 several times ........
<bg>
Regards,
Meinhard
NetNews Administration
> As you can see, I've had enough of his moronic outbursts.
>
> I have forwarded the following email to ab...@uni-berlin.de,
> who appear to be the Silly Ass's current upstream host.
>
> I would encourage all of you to gather some header information
> from your own files, and send a similar message to
> ab...@uni-berlin.de so that we can have him banned from here.
From another posting:
> Hopefully the foul smelling angry little cretin will just go
> away, but if we innundate his ISP with requests to ban him, the
> worst that can happen is nothing, and the best is bye bye silly
> ass.
Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.
First of all we want to stress that a call for flooding an (admini-
strative) mailbox (with abuse complaints) is abuse as well. You're
upsetting and obstructing the ones who's help you're requesting.
About "ilias":
We take every complaint very seriously. But we generally don't act
on problems with the _content_ of postings as long as there is no
violation of legal matters or severe violation of newsgroup charters,
hierarchy rules (e.g. flooding, spam, forged cancels) or our server's
policy. We don't see any of these conditions fulfilled in the case
in question. When reporting newsgroup abuse, please remember that
newsgroups are a public forum, and it's solely up to you which posts
you do read or not. Please use your newsreader's filtering facilities
("killfile") if you don't want to read somebody's articles. We will
not intervene in personal disputes and disagreements as we're neither
a referee nor a nanny.
If you think "ilias" is disturbing newbies: Write an informational
text about him and mail it to them or post it on a regular basis.
If you consider legal action against "ilias" (for whatever reason):
The IP address in the "NNTP-Posting-Host:" and "X-Trace:" headers are
set by our server and cannot be forged. This information can be used
to find the person who sent the message, depending on the applicable
laws.
Thank you for your understanding.
Best regards,
Bettina (Newsmaster Team FU Berlin)
--
Frequently asked questions (FAQ):
http://news.individual.net/faq.html
Guenther Stiewi
wrote:
>Florian
>
>Florian Eggenberger wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary
>>
>> > Purely coincidental, I assure you.
>> No Gary, how did they use to say in old Rome: Nomen est omen!
>
>They spoke Germain in old Rome?
>
><g>
Yep. Ve had wayz to make them shpeak!
(Seriously: Rome was sacked by germanic tribes after using germanic tribes as
foreign legionairs for quite a while)
Gary Stark
Thank you for your prompt response.
NetNews Administration wrote:
> Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.
>
Thank you for your prompt response.
> First of all we want to stress that a call for flooding an (admini-
> strative) mailbox (with abuse complaints) is abuse as well. You're
> upsetting and obstructing the ones who's help you're requesting.
While I take your point, in fact flooding your mailbox was certainly not
my intent. Rather, I felt it necessary to demonstrate to you the
frustration being caused by your miscreant user. The best way I felt that
this could be done would be for other individuals to post to you a
similar complaint to the one that I have lodged. That way you would see
that a great number of individuals feel similarly to me.
If you believe that I was wishing to flood your mailbox, then I do
apologise - that was certainly not my intent.
>
> About "ilias":
>
> We take every complaint very seriously. But we generally don't act
> on problems with the _content_ of postings as long as there is no
> violation of legal matters or severe violation of newsgroup charters,
And I agree with this concept. However, I contend that 'Ilias" is
continually and repeatedly abusing the newsgroup and thus is severely
violating the charter of this newsgroup.
First of all, the charter itemises 5 key points that represent legal
topics within the constraints of the charter. These are :
"(1) To discuss the design, programming, and administration of systems
and applications which use CA-Visual Objects.
(2) To share ideas, information, and specific experience regarding
design and programming of applications with CA-Visual Objects.
(3) To discuss new products of interest to CA-Visual Objects developers,
including updates to CA-Visual Objects itself and third-party add-on
products, their usage, advantages and drawbacks, and where
shareware/freeware can be found for downloading;
(4) To educate and inform others about the strengths, weaknesses, and
general usage of CA-Visual Objects to solve real world problems; and
(5) To allow brief announcements of products and events
specifically for CA-Visual Objects programmers.
This specifically excludes:
(a) General-purpose programming tools;
(b) Announcements of over 20 lines of text;
(c) Advertisements listing specific prices and ordering
information;
(d) Advertisements for products and events which are not
substantially specific to the needs of CA-Visual Objects
developers;
(e) Any product or event that has been announced on
comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects within the past 30
days; and
(f) Recruitment announcements that are not specific to
developers using CA-Visual Objects."
"Ilias" is not asking any questions relevent to those key points. He has
no relevant experience with the language, and is totally unskilled in the
language, yet he appears to profess to be an expert. Within the context
of the first 4 of these 5 points he is in clear, consistant and repeated
breach of the charter. He does not appear to be a trader, and so the
fifth point of the charter probably does not apply.
Contuing from the charter:
"The charter is a statement of what constitutes good manners in the
newsgroup. It will be enforced through cooperation, mutual respect,
and peer pressure when necessary. Anyone who willfully persists in
violating the newsgroup's charter will in all likelihood eventually be
asked, by the newsgroup's regular participants, to stop posting. "
"Ilias" has been asked on frequent occasions by other participants to
stop his postings. He has refused to do so, and in fact recently his
frequency of posting has increased, rather than decreased.Further, his
recent postings have become even more abusive to other members than his
earlier postings.
Again, from the charter:
"If further sanctions are necessary, they will be discussed with the
offender personally, and then in news.admin.net-abuse.misc if it comes
to that."
I believe that we are now approaching this point, and I believe that you,
as a supplier to him of the service that he is abusing, are best placed
to discuss these matters with him personally.
> hierarchy rules (e.g. flooding, spam, forged cancels) or our server's
> policy. We don't see any of these conditions fulfilled in the case
How many of his messages - and the responses from users here to them -
have you checked, and over what period.
I'm confident that a poll of the people from this newsgroup would advise
you that his behaviour over the past few months - since April, if my
memory serves me correctly - has not been acceptable, and that he needs
to be severly reprimanded, if not banned, from this newsgroup.
> in question. When reporting newsgroup abuse, please remember that
> newsgroups are a public forum, and it's solely up to you which posts
> you do read or not. Please use your newsreader's filtering facilities
> ("killfile") if you don't want to read somebody's articles. We will
I have been doing this for quite some time with respect to "Ilias".
Unfortunately, a killfile is only partially effective. As I'm sure you're
aware, the issue arises when others choose to not do so, and then respond
to his posts - posts which in many cases appear designed to simply
inflame fierce rebuttal. It is those posts which then become visible in
one's newsreader.
And of course, one should not lose sight of the fact that it would be
that original posting of "Ilias" that is in breach of the charter, and
his inflamatory language only increases the offence he is committing.
> not intervene in personal disputes and disagreements as we're neither
> a referee nor a nanny.
I accept and respect this. Please understand that I have never met the
individual, and have no personal grudge against him. Indeed, I have -
many months ago - invited him to post questions that are meaningful and
relevant to the newsgroup. That he has repeatedly and continually failed
to do so only speaks to his intent to disrupt the peaceful business of
the newsgroup.
Were he to participate in the newsgroup in a friendly and positive
manner, I feel confident that he would be welcomed with open arms.
However, he continually and repeatedly refuses invitations to do exactly
that, and instead continues to disrupt and troll. His behaviour is
anti-social, and while he continues his current behaviour patterns, I
would sufggest that it is also outside the boundaries of the charter and
not acceptable to the majority of participants within the group.
> If you think "ilias" is disturbing newbies: Write an informational
> text about him and mail it to them or post it on a regular basis.
I think that would be counter productive. I believe that much of what he
is doing is attention seeking, and this would be simply fulfilling that
goal. I thnik a better approach is to ensure that he behaves in a
respectful and respectable manner.
> If you consider legal action against "ilias" (for whatever reason):
> The IP address in the "NNTP-Posting-Host:" and "X-Trace:" headers are
> set by our server and cannot be forged. This information can be used
> to find the person who sent the message, depending on the applicable
> laws.
Which is precisely why I quoted the headers in my original note, to
permit you to trace the true originator of the messages in question.
I have no desire to be sole judge and jury in this matter, but I believe
that it would be the desire of the majority of the participants in this
newsgroup to have you discuss this matter with the individual concerned,
and alert him to the fact that he is posting in breach of the newsgroup's
charter.
If there is some way that I - or the newsgroup participants - can present
you with further evidence of our collective feelings in this matter,
please let us (or me) know.
I am hopeful that the mere threat of disruption of his services should be
enough to alert him to the seriousness of his breaches, and that a short
discussion with him from you should hopefully be all that is required.
> Thank you for your understanding.
Thank you again for your prompt response.
Walt R. Jesse
wrote:
Bettina,
Which means, that although you are neither a referee nor a nanny you
can decide that this is not your problem and that although we should
filter (killfile) the posts of (s)Ilias (pronounced Silly Ass) we
should read it to warn the newbies.
Are you kidding ??
Okay then, it was foreseeable that from an official side we cannot
expect any help.
It's more simple and comfortable to write some post and hide behind
the rules.
(I just listened to a song on the radio called: Dream On <g>)
In this case you're stimulating (s)Ilias to go on with his kind of
spam! (Who cares?)
We will find a way to muzzle (s)Ilias without your help.
Bye
Walt
Paul De Bie
STOP this. It is a waste of time. Ilias is behaving like a child, he just
seeks attention. Don't you have kids? (I do). Then you should know that
the only way is to just IGNORE them. And in the end they'll stop with their
ridiculous behaviour.
The same goes for DOGS, as a matter of fact. Your dog is begging for food
at of the time? Just ignore him. *Every* day! After 3weeks, he will not
bother you anymore (and I am convinced that my dog has more brains than
Ilias, so in this case it could take a few weeks longer but ultimately he'll
go away)
So, you want to get rid of Ilias. Ignore him. NEVER EVER reply or react on
his messages (I have never done this). And if you want to make this easy:
killfile him too. If nobody ever responds to this guy, he will go away.
Please let's stop this Ilias thing. Over the past months, we have seen
hundreds of messsages about this guy. Messages NOT ABOUT VO and very often
of discutable content (even real hate-mail). So this is a breach of the
newsgroup charter too.
Please, please, ban this guy from your thoughts. Consider him to be air,
and his postings *baked* air.
Thank you all
Paul
"Gary Stark" <nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> schreef in bericht
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ilias
<paul....@CLEARTHIShnt.be> wrote:
>Guys, guys, guys (and girls, girls, girls),
>
>STOP this. It is a waste of time. Ilias is behaving like a child, he just
>seeks attention. Don't you have kids? (I do). Then you should know that
[...]
i don't seek attention.
hopefully people stop with their annoying off-topic comments.
>Please let's stop this Ilias thing. Over the past months, we have seen
>hundreds of messsages about this guy. Messages NOT ABOUT VO and very often
>of discutable content (even real hate-mail). So this is a breach of the
>newsgroup charter too.
>Please, please, ban this guy from your thoughts. Consider him to be air,
>and his postings *baked* air.
>Thank you all
>
>Paul
I agree.
Please stop this off-topic-posting about my person.
-
My postings are all mainly in-topic.
Walt R. Jesse
<paul....@CLEARTHIShnt.be> wrote:
>Guys, guys, guys (and girls, girls, girls),
>
>STOP this. It is a waste of time. Ilias is behaving like a child, he just
>seeks attention. Don't you have kids? (I do). Then you should know that
>the only way is to just IGNORE them. And in the end they'll stop with their
>ridiculous behaviour.
>The same goes for DOGS, as a matter of fact. Your dog is begging for food
>at of the time? Just ignore him. *Every* day! After 3weeks, he will not
>bother you anymore
Because he starved <g>
Regards
Walt
George Razutov
Gentlemen,
In order to facilitate VO rank cleaning process, let me offer a simple
procedure. It was used for many years in USSR, China, North Corea and
many other countries, and proved itself to be very effective.
1. Local Party organisation (in this case -- VO newsgroup) chooses one
of its members to become "Public enemy" (PE).
2. Local Party leader organizes a session to "criticize" the PE. Every
Party member must bring a rotten tomato and throw it at PE. Senior
members can throw several tomatoes if they wish.
3. Those members who have thrown the tomato are registered as "Real
Communists" (in this case -- "Real VO Programmers"), and can go home
and be happy until the next session.
4. Those members who didn't bring a tomato or didn't want to throw it,
are registered as "Non-reliable persons". They can be reported to KGB
(in this case -- to ISP), and they are candidates to become the next
Public enemy.
5. Current PE, after the session, is officially excluded from the
Party, reported to KGB (sorry, ISP) and gets his 10 years of prison.
Steps 1-5 are repeated until there are no more "Non-reliable persons"
in the local organisation. After that the next Public enemy is chosen
from "Real Communists", and the process restarts. It continues until
there is only one Party member left. The rest member throws tomatoes
at himself, reports himself to KGB as the last Public enemy and goes
into prison. The rank cleaning process is over.
George Razutov
Rob
I'm inclined to agree with Paul, here. I understand your's and Geoff's
concern that 'newbies' might get mis-information etc. etc.
Maybe we should police our own NG. Every time one of us sees a posting from
Ilias we immediately post something like:
"Warning - Ilias is well-know on this, and other, NGs as an unreliable
source of information. The purpose of his postings is usually to
mis-represent some personal hang-up he has as a valid topic for this NG.
Please ensure you check the veracity of any information he posts. We also
suggest you do not reply to him. Invariably you will receive some
bad-mannered, illogical and spiteful responses for your efforts."
Probably others can come up with something better, but you get the idea....
--
Rob Grattan
R&D Software Pty. Ltd.
Guenther Stiewi
Now if you could write a virus that would establish itself on Bilious' PC(s)
and attaches that disclaimer to each of his postings....
</WishfulThinking>
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:33:08 +1000, "Rob" <robREM...@rndsoftware.com.au>
wrote:
ilias
wrote:
>Gary Stark <nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> wrote in message news:<3F52CC73...@RedbacksWeb.com>...
>
>Gentlemen,
>
>In order to facilitate VO rank cleaning process, let me offer a simple
>procedure. It was used for many years in USSR, China, North Corea and
>many other countries, and proved itself to be very effective.
>1. Local Party organisation (in this case -- VO newsgroup) chooses one
>of its members to become "Public enemy" (PE).
>2. Local Party leader organizes a session to "criticize" the PE. Every
>Party member must bring a rotten tomato and throw it at PE. Senior
"usenet-tomatoes" are postings like this:
"
Your assumption is incorrect.
He's a troll. Nothing more.
And probably a whole lot less.
"
Many people forget, that throwing usenet-tomatoes can result in a
legal penalty.
I don't have problems with usenet-tomatoes in general.
But their excessive use cann annoy a community.
Willie Moore
Regards,
Willie
"Gary Stark" <nom3...@RedbacksWeb.com> wrote in message
news:3F52D18F...@RedbacksWeb.com...
> All,
>
> As you can see, I've had enough of his moronic outbursts.
>
> I have forwarded the following email to ab...@uni-berlin.de, who appear to
be the Silly Ass's current upstream host.
>
> I would encourage all of you to gather some header information from your
own files, and send a similar message to ab...@uni-berlin.de so
that we can have him banned from here.
>
> His abuse of the charter for this ng has gone on for far too long.
>
>
> Gary Stark wrote:
>
Gary Stark
Willie Moore wrote:
> Good job!
>
> Regards,
Thanx.
How was your Labor Day?