ALIEN BLACK SPOTS UK
James Kibo Parry
J M Flanagan <J.M.Fl...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Basically I am interested in UFO's and their contents, and I was
> wondering if anyone knows where there is an area in the UK with over a
> 25% chance of seeing a craft within a week. No urine takes please.
I'm sorry, but I checked HM Government's official list and none of the
617 sites have more than a 23% probability.
> Also interested in US black spots and the Roswell crash of '47.
We don't have black spots here--in fact, we don't have Spot at all.
Spot's not allowed, he's JUST a DOG!
-- K.
Michael Straight
In article <WONGHL%DFE...@pcmail.usafa.af.mil>,
HOWARD L. WONG <WONGHL%DF...@pcmail.usafa.af.mil> wrote:
>In article <CyBp5...@world.std.com> ki...@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:
>In alt.alien.visitors article <38lma8$6...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>,
>Also interested in US black spots and the Roswell crash of '47.
>
>We don't have black spots here--in fact, we don't have Spot at all.
>Spot's not allowed, he's JUST a DOG! --- K
>
>I take offense to that! --- SPOT
^^^^
This is obviously not Spot, since Spot is not allowed.
And Kibo, the thread has nothing to do with Spot, it's refering to
the movie Brother From Another Planet, in which an African-American
Alien spots the UK from his ship but decides to land in New York
instead (which he also spoted from space).
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Ethan Straffin
<J.M.Fl...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Basically I am interested in UFO's and their contents, and I was
> wondering if anyone knows where there is an area in the UK with over a
> 25% chance of seeing a craft within a week. No urine takes please.
"Urine takes?" As in, "Urine take valve is clogged?"
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Ethan Straffin <est...@tori.next.com> wrote:
>In alt.alien.visitors article <38lma8$6...@mercury.dur.ac.uk>, J M Flanagan
><J.M.Fl...@durham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Basically I am interested in UFO's and their contents, and I was
>> wondering if anyone knows where there is an area in the UK with over a
>> 25% chance of seeing a craft within a week. No urine takes please.
>
>"Urine takes?" As in, "Urine take valve is clogged?"
>
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We don't have black spots here--in fact, we don't have Spot at all.
Ted Frank
>And Kibo, the thread has nothing to do with Spot, it's refering to
>the movie Brother From Another Planet, in which an African-American
>Alien spots the UK from his ship but decides to land in New York
>instead (which he also spoted from space).
And that's clearly a howler, because New York is not as big as the
Great Wall of China, which is the only man-made thing you can see in space.
--
ted frank "Police do not detain people hoping that they will commit
new crimes in their presence; that is not a promising
investigative technique"
-- U.S. v. Pryor, 32 F.3d 1192
Joseph Bay
>>"Urine takes?" As in, "Urine take valve is clogged?"
>A urine take is like a spit take, only messier.
This reminds me. One of my former suitemates still lives in the dorm where
we lived last year. He told me that some hooligans had apparently left
several bottles of urine in a hallway cubby hole. Several University
employees in full NBC suits (protective, not TV network) came to remove them.
Supposedly the first to identify the bottles suddenly said "My god! It's
full of piss!" (Actually he said "My God! It IS urine!" but I liked the 2001
bit so I changed it).
Joe
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V-X
>In article <38r8am$i...@nyx10.cs.du.edu> mstr...@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Michael Straight) writes:
>And that's clearly a howler, because New York is not as big as the
>Great Wall of China, which is the only man-made thing you can see in space.
Actually, as those of us who have been dropped shivering and naked from probe
ships on both of these landmarks and had to walk home know, New York is
actually many times larger than the Great Wall of China--wider at any rate, so
why you couldn't see this from space I have no idea. For that matter, many
interstates in the US are wider by far than the Great Wall--shouldn't you be
able to see them? (I wouldn't know--I've always been "otherwise engaged"
while in flight, if you know what I mean, and if you're thinking "anal probe"
I think you do.)
(In all seriousness, the "Great Wall" thing is an urban legend. I think it's
mentioned in the alt.folklore.urban FAQ.)
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N.J. Rodriguez
>>And Kibo, the thread has nothing to do with Spot, it's refering to
>>the movie Brother From Another Planet, in which an African-American
>>Alien spots the UK from his ship but decides to land in New York
>>instead (which he also spoted from space).
>And that's clearly a howler, because New York is not as big as the
>Great Wall of China, which is the only man-made thing you can see in space.
How can you Łsee a structure from space that is only 30 - 40 ft wide?
Nick
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Alan Greig
>>>And Kibo, the thread has nothing to do with Spot, it's refering to
>>>the movie Brother From Another Planet, in which an African-American
>>>Alien spots the UK from his ship but decides to land in New York
>>>instead (which he also spoted from space).
>
>>And that's clearly a howler, because New York is not as big as the
>>Great Wall of China, which is the only man-made thing you can see in space.
>
>
>
> How can you Łsee a structure from space that is only 30 - 40 ft wide?
It's all done with mirrors.
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|>In article <39856j$k...@whitbeck.ncl.ac.uk>, "N.J. Rodriguez" <N.J.Ro...@ncl.ac.uk> writes:
|>>>>And Kibo, the thread has nothing to do with Spot, it's refering to
|>>>>the movie Brother From Another Planet, in which an African-American
|>>>>Alien spots the UK from his ship but decides to land in New York
|>>>>instead (which he also spoted from space).
|>>
|>>>And that's clearly a howler, because New York is not as big as the
|>>>Great Wall of China, which is the only man-made thing you can see in space.
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>> How can you Łsee a structure from space that is only 30 - 40 ft wide?
|>
|>It's all done with mirrors.
That is way too obvious to be a successful troll, everyone knows that
mirrors do not work in space!
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Richard Burke
mstr...@nyx10.cs.du.edu "Michael Straight" writes:
> If you had been following the thread we JUST HAD in ark, you would know
> that YOU CAN'T USE MIRRORS IN THE VACUUM OF OUTER SPACE. Please excuse
> the flames if this is just a joke or something, but I'm tired of all the
> physics-ignorant nonsense in this group.
Err whot
well I agree about the phisics-ignorant nonsense posted to this group and
I'm not privy to the ark thread but a mirror is a mirror, and will reflect
light in a vacuum.
> CIA satelites can read the numbers off the drivers licence in your
> wallet (AND NO THEY DON'T USE MIRRORS, HA HA), so seeing the Great Wall
> from space is NO BIG DEAL.
CIA satelites can't read numbers off drivers licences within or without
your wallet. But can spot say a company of tanks or APC's moving accross a
desert.
RGB
MARK AINSCOW
certain times of the day. i.e. Dawn and dusk. The reason being that
the wall is built on top of mountains and therefore reflects the sun a
lot better.
MA
Eli Balin
Richard Burke <Ric...@majinga.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>CIA satelites can't read numbers off drivers licences within or without
>your wallet. But can spot say a company of tanks or APC's moving accross a
^^^^^^
I asked my dog if he could say this, and he just looked at me real
funny. So then I fed him some peanut butter, and watched his jaw get
stuck as he tried to chew it.
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brent jackson
\\ well I agree about the phisics-ignorant nonsense posted to this group and
\\ I'm not privy to the ark thread but a mirror is a mirror, and will reflect
\\ light in a vacuum.
HA! you're wrong wrong wrong! i looked inside my vacuum today and there is
no light in it! so how can a mirror work if there's no light, physics boy?
\\ CIA satelites can't read numbers off drivers licences within or without
\\ your wallet. But can spot say a company of tanks or APC's moving accross a
\\ desert.
they can read Alt.Pets.Chia? in the desert? without mirrors? how is
that possible?
-brent
full of shi^H^H^Hquestions today
Jay C Jachimiak
> CIA satelites can't read numbers off drivers licences within or without
> your wallet.
Don't kid yourself, Richard.
-Jay
jay...@panix.com in NYC
the "c" stands for "credentials"
Jay C Jachimiak
elib...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Eli Balin) wrote:
> In article <783957...@majinga.demon.co.uk>,
> Richard Burke <Ric...@majinga.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >CIA satelites can't read numbers off drivers licences within or without
> >your wallet. But can spot say a company of tanks or APC's moving accross a
> >desert. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^
>
> I asked my dog if he could say this, and he just looked at me real
> funny. So then I fed him some peanut butter, and watched his jaw get
> stuck as he tried to chew it.
Maybe your dog can't say it, but I bet Spot could - if he was allowed.
-Jay
jay...@panix.com in NYC
the "c" stands for "canine"
David DeLaney
>Richard Burke <Ric...@majinga.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>your wallet. But can spot say a company of tanks or APC's moving accross a
>>desert. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^
>I asked my dog if he could say this, and he just looked at me real
>funny. So then I fed him some peanut butter, and watched his jaw get
>stuck as he tried to chew it.
A *ha*! *You're* the one that's been spreading those stories about how to
train your dog to eat peanut butter!
Dave "And the lady in question *isn't* happy about it!" DeLaney
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>...thus spake Richard Burke through the avatar Ric...@majinga.demon.co.uk...
>\\ well I agree about the phisics-ignorant nonsense posted to this group and
>\\ I'm not privy to the ark thread but a mirror is a mirror, and will reflect
>\\ light in a vacuum.
>
>HA! you're wrong wrong wrong! i looked inside my vacuum today and there is
>no light in it! so how can a mirror work if there's no light, physics boy?
Vacuum means no *air*. So you contend there is no light in space...
>-brent
> full of shi^H^H^Hquestions today
Much more of the former than the later.
NinjaBOB of the Fuuma Clan
F. L. Myke Reynolds <taa...@netcom.com> wrote:
>In article <39egap$g...@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> b...@cs.brown.edu (brent jackson) writes:
>>...thus spake Richard Burke through the avatar Ric...@majinga.demon.co.uk...
>>\\ well I agree about the phisics-ignorant nonsense posted to this group and
>>\\ I'm not privy to the ark thread but a mirror is a mirror, and will reflect
>>\\ light in a vacuum.
>>
>>HA! you're wrong wrong wrong! i looked inside my vacuum today and there is
>>no light in it! so how can a mirror work if there's no light, physics boy?
>
>Vacuum means no *air*. So you contend there is no light in space...
I got to go with F. L. Myke Renolds on this one, everyone knows there is light
in space. I think -brent is just confused. After all everyone knows that
*shadows* don't propgate in a vaccume. Mr. -brent probably ment to type
shadows instead of light but his fingers slipped and he didn't notice untill
after he posted.
>
>>-brent
>> full of shi^H^H^Hquestions today
>
I just don't get the conotation.
Joseph Bay
>>CIA satelites can't read numbers off drivers licences within or without
>>your wallet. But can spot say a company of tanks or APC's moving accross a
>>desert. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^
>I asked my dog if he could say this, and he just looked at me real
>funny. So then I fed him some peanut butter, and watched his jaw get
>stuck as he tried to chew it.
At that point you have to have someone else (or yourself) say "A company of
tanks or APCs moving". Then it LOOKS like SPOT is saying it! Or if you're
filming it, you can superimpose your mouth in an orangey circle over Spot's
mouth and it'll look JUST LIKE CLUTCH CARGO!
That'll confuse those ALIEN VISITORS!
Hope this helps,
Joe Bay
James Grady Ward
there are several instances of shutle and other launches
haveing reported being able to distinguish city locations
at night by light output, or do you think a concentrated
area of lights will not be seen for a small distance
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Herschel A Gelman
Joseph Bay <b...@er7.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>jgw...@eos.ncsu.edu (James Grady Ward) writes:
>
>>at night by light output, or do you think a concentrated
>>area of lights will not be seen for a small distance
>
>no AIR in space, so how could they see concentrated lights?
>
>Think before you post you silly fool!
I think you need to think before you post too. Everyone knows there's
air in space, it's just that the oxygen-nitrogen ratio isn't what we're
used to, so of course we can't breath it. Also, the modified
concentration gives you a "thinner" sort of air, so that the light
particles aren't slowed down by the viscosity of air on Earth. That, of
course, is the reason that mirrors won't work in space. This also
affects shadows, but only of reasonably thin objects: if the object is
thin enough, the light particles can "tunnel" through the object and come
out on the other side. Therefore, there won't be any shadow cast by the
object. The actual thickness that an object needs to be before it casts
a shadow is, naturally, a function of how far into space you are.
Hope this helps.
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Joseph Bay
>at night by light output, or do you think a concentrated
>area of lights will not be seen for a small distance
Well, yes, a small distance, but not if it's in SPACE, you dolt! There's
no AIR in space, so how could they see concentrated lights?
Think before you post you silly fool!
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>In article <39pg6c$d...@er7.rutgers.edu>, b...@er7.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>>Well, yes, a small distance, but not if it's in SPACE, you dolt! There's
>>no AIR in space, so how could they see concentrated lights?
>Wonderful logic there. Light needs air to be seen. Lovely.
>BTW, the lights of cities can be seen from space, or has NASA been
>doctoring photos again?
Not to mention all them stars and the moon and stuff.
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>
>>at night by light output, or do you think a concentrated
>>area of lights will not be seen for a small distance
>
>Well, yes, a small distance, but not if it's in SPACE, you dolt! There's
>no AIR in space, so how could they see concentrated lights?
Wonderful logic there. Light needs air to be seen. Lovely.
BTW, the lights of cities can be seen from space, or has NASA been
doctoring photos again?
Now if you want to start talking about from very very far away... like say
another planet, maybe then it wouldn't be seen.
>Think before you post you silly fool!
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James Grady Ward
>
>>at night by light output, or do you think a concentrated
>>area of lights will not be seen for a small distance
>
>Well, yes, a small distance, but not if it's in SPACE, you dolt! There's
>no AIR in space, so how could they see concentrated lights?
>
>Think before you post you silly fool!
>
two question you silly fool, if you cant see light through
space, how can you see stars and the sun, and how can you see
the other planets, you do you see some spectrum besides light
and there are several instances of cities being seen by
their lights at night from space, look at some of the
documentaries on the early space program, they ocassionaly show
the effects of the capsules crossing over to the night side
of the planet
also the orignal idea was that the said alien was coming in
for a landing, so we are talking about something somewhat
close to the earth, of course they cant be seen from somewhere
like mars unless they have telescopes, which of course no alien
would use
and one last point, the constant speed of light that they talk
about is the speed of light in a vaccum, so tell the physcist
how they are using a constant that cant be
so think before you post please
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Dean Adams
In article <39pg6c$d...@er7.rutgers.edu>, b...@er7.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>jgw...@eos.ncsu.edu (James Grady Ward) writes:
>>at night by light output, or do you think a concentrated
>>area of lights will not be seen for a small distance
>Well, yes, a small distance, but not if it's in SPACE, you dolt!
>There's no AIR in space, so how could they see concentrated lights?
Geez, what are you talking about? By some chance have you confused
light with SOUND? Light happens to travel better with NO air at all.
And... city lights are *extremely* visible from space.
Dean Adams
In article <39sc3s$3...@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> jgw...@eos.ncsu.edu (James Grady Ward) writes:
>In article <39pg6c$d...@er7.rutgers.edu>, b...@er7.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>>Well, yes, a small distance, but not if it's in SPACE, you dolt! There's
>>no AIR in space, so how could they see concentrated lights?
>>Think before you post you silly fool!
>
>their lights at night from space
Several? Make that ALL THE TIME, if the weather is clear.
> look at some of the documentaries on the early space program,
> they ocassionaly show the effects of the capsules crossing over
> to the night side of the planet
Or you could just watch the video from almost any Shuttle mission.
Ted Frank
>and there are several instances of cities being seen by
>their lights at night from space, look at some of the
>documentaries on the early space program, they ocassionaly show
>the effects of the capsules crossing over to the night side
>of the planet
>
>also the orignal idea was that the said alien was coming in
>for a landing, so we are talking about something somewhat
>close to the earth, of course they cant be seen from somewhere
>like mars unless they have telescopes, which of course no alien
>would use
Can someone tell me more about this documentary about aliens????????/
>so think before you post please
Yeah!
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Joseph Bay
>joe bay writes:
>>Well, yes, a small distance, but not if it's in SPACE, you dolt! There's
>>no AIR in space, so how could they see concentrated lights?
>BTW, the lights of cities can be seen from space, or has NASA been
>doctoring photos again?
What do YOU think? If they could make that oh-so-convincing Moon Landing
thing, why can't they doctor a few photos?
>>Think before you post you silly fool!
YHBT. YHL. HAND. YSF.
>Billy Joe Bissette
Wow, are U the guy from Green Day? UR rilly CUTE! But I thought U
posted from AOL, right?
Joseph Bay
>In article <39pg6c$d...@er7.rutgers.edu>, b...@er7.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>>
>>jgw...@eos.ncsu.edu (James Grady Ward) writes:
>>Think before you post you silly fool!
>two question you silly fool, if you cant see light through
Hey, wait. One questions at a times, please.
>space, how can you see stars and the sun, and how can you see
>the other planets, you do you see some spectrum besides light
Well, you can see the other planets because on EARTH we have something
called an ATMOSPHERE. That's what allows you too see things in space.
In fact, you can even see the planets in a mirror, *if* you're within
Earth's atmosphere. And yes, I see some spectrum besides light. Well,
besides "visible" light, that is.
>and there are several instances of cities being seen by
>their lights at night from space, look at some of the
>documentaries on the early space program,
Oh yeah, like I'm supposed to believe those were real. They "filmed" in
space. Using WHAT LIGHT? I guess they could have used radiation, but
then they'd have to make the cities radioactive to show up on film, and
that would kind of suck, wouldn't it. You know Star Trek wasn't filmed
in space, but it looks like it was, doesn't it? Same thing with those
"documentaries" of the early "space" program.
>also the orignal idea was that the said alien was coming in
>for a landing, so we are talking about something somewhat
>close to the earth, of course they cant be seen from somewhere
>like mars unless they have telescopes, which of course no alien
>would use
Alright. For the alien to come in for a landing, it would have to
enter our atmosphere. Problem solved. The question is moot. Plus
alien technology probably has the ability to generate gravity and hold
an atmosphere outside the ship (in case they want to open a window or
something when it gets too hot, or to use their telescopes). But we
can't make assumptions about more advanced technology because we don't
really have any idea what it's like.
>and one last point, the constant speed of light that they talk
>about is the speed of light in a vaccum, so tell the physcist
>how they are using a constant that cant be
Oh no, you've misunderstood me. I didn't say that light can't *travel*
in a vacuum; I merely said that it's not visible there. How do you think
the Martians see us with their telescopes? Does the light (cough) "teleport"?
Hah hah.
Also, that's more than two question.
>so think before you post please
>--
>buckysan
I might request the same from you, buckysan. You have been trolled. You
have lost. Have a nice day.
By the way, what sort of school *is* "eos" anyway?
Joseph Bay
Oh yeah. They could "hear" the city lights. Sure.
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Joseph Bay
>Or you could just watch the video from almost any Shuttle mission.
Hah! I could watch "Lost in Space" too, but that doesn't prove anything!
I watched a videotape of "Lord of the Rings" once, so I know for a fact
that all midgets have hairy feet and sort-of-englishy accents.
Joe
Dean Adams
In article <39tfij$q...@er5.rutgers.edu> b...@eden.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>dad...@netcom.com (Dean Adams) writes:
>>Or you could just watch the video from almost any Shuttle mission.
>Hah! I could watch "Lost in Space" too, but that doesn't prove anything!
Yes, watching LiS would prove you like cheesy old SF shows.
>I watched a videotape of "Lord of the Rings" once, so I know for a fact
>that all midgets have hairy feet and sort-of-englishy accents.
So tell us something we don't know!
Michael Straight
throguhthe mud this way.
In article <3a030n$a...@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>,
James Grady Ward <jgw...@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote:
>
>In article <39tcn5$m...@er5.rutgers.edu>,
b...@eden.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>>jgw...@eos.ncsu.edu (James Grady Ward) writes:
>
>>>In article <39pg6c$d...@er7.rutgers.edu>,
b...@er7.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>>>>Think before you post you silly fool!
>
>>>two question you silly fool, if you cant see light through
>>>space, how can you see stars and the sun, and how can you see
>>>the other planets, you do you see some spectrum besides light
>>
>>Well, you can see the other planets because on EARTH we have something
>>called an ATMOSPHERE. That's what allows you too see things in space.
>>In fact, you can even see the planets in a mirror, *if* you're within
>>Earth's atmosphere. And yes, I see some spectrum besides light. Well,
>>besides "visible" light, that is.
>
>ok one last time, YOU CAN SEE light in space, first of all space
>is not a total vaccum, but that would not make a difference in
>terms of seeing light. how else can the space probes use
>video cameras as well as the cameras for other s/m emissions
>in between planets
First off, take your disgusting talk of filming interplanetary
S/M emissions to alt.sex.bondage.alien where it belongs. As if anyone
could have sex in the near vaccum of space.
>an interesting experiment lets put you in a jar and suck all
>the air out, and see what happens :)
he would die, and then be totally unable to detect any radiation
in the visible spectrum.
>and about the mirrors i must ask if you even know anything about
>optics, even assuming that light can not be seen in a vaccum,
>a mirror would still reflect the light off its surface,
>since nothing about how a mirror works involves the air around
>it mearly the reflective properties of the mirrors surface
Now this is the really loopy part. How is a mirror supposed to
reflect any kind of light (visible spectrum or otherwise) without
some kind of atmosphere to polarize the light? Of course the
"air around" the mirror has nothing to do with the mirror's reflection
and everything to do with polarizing the light.
>>
>>>and there are several instances of cities being seen by
>>>their lights at night from space, look at some of the
>>>documentaries on the early space program,
>>
>>Oh yeah, like I'm supposed to believe those were real. They "filmed" in
>>space. Using WHAT LIGHT? I guess they could have used radiation, but
>>then they'd have to make the cities radioactive to show up on film, and
This would be about as effective as using a flash to take a picture of
the Grand Canyon at night.
>>that would kind of suck, wouldn't it. You know Star Trek wasn't filmed
>>in space, but it looks like it was, doesn't it? Same thing with those
>>"documentaries" of the early "space" program.
>
>first off light is radiation, or do you even know what radiatant
>energy is. it is just not a type that is normally harmful to us.
>and there are lots of clips of the planet taken from the orbiters
Again, orbiters are not completely outside of Earth's atmosphere,
otherwise there would be nothing to polarize the light.
>>>so think before you post please
And read an elementary Physics textbook
Michael Straight can't see enough of the phrase "ALIEN AFRICAN AMERICAN"
..............................................................................
Ethical Mirth Gas/"I'm chaste alright."/The Magical Shirt/Hath grace limits?"
"Halt this grimace!"/Chili Hamster Tag/The Gilt Charisma/"I gather this calm."
James Grady Ward
In article <39tcn5$m...@er5.rutgers.edu>, b...@eden.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>jgw...@eos.ncsu.edu (James Grady Ward) writes:
>>In article <39pg6c$d...@er7.rutgers.edu>, b...@er7.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>>>Think before you post you silly fool!
>>two question you silly fool, if you cant see light through
>>space, how can you see stars and the sun, and how can you see
>>the other planets, you do you see some spectrum besides light
>
>Well, you can see the other planets because on EARTH we have something
>called an ATMOSPHERE. That's what allows you too see things in space.
>In fact, you can even see the planets in a mirror, *if* you're within
>Earth's atmosphere. And yes, I see some spectrum besides light. Well,
>besides "visible" light, that is.
ok one last time, YOU CAN SEE light in space, first of all space
is not a total vaccum, but that would not make a difference in
terms of seeing light. how else can the space probes use
video cameras as well as the cameras for other e/m emissions
in between planets
an interesting experiment lets put you in a jar and suck all
the air out, and see what happens :)
and about the mirrors i must ask if you even know anything about
optics, even assuming that light can not be seen in a vaccum,
a mirror would still reflect the light off its surface,
since nothing about how a mirror works involves the air around
it mearly the reflective properties of the mirrors surface
>
>>and there are several instances of cities being seen by
>>their lights at night from space, look at some of the
>>documentaries on the early space program,
>
>Oh yeah, like I'm supposed to believe those were real. They "filmed" in
>space. Using WHAT LIGHT? I guess they could have used radiation, but
>then they'd have to make the cities radioactive to show up on film, and
>that would kind of suck, wouldn't it. You know Star Trek wasn't filmed
>in space, but it looks like it was, doesn't it? Same thing with those
>"documentaries" of the early "space" program.
first off light is radiation, or do you even know what radiatant
energy is. it is just not a type that is normally harmful to us.
and there are lots of clips of the planet taken from the orbiters
>>so think before you post please
>>--
>>buckysan
>
>By the way, what sort of school *is* "eos" anyway?
tis a school that is working on the mars mission project and
has a good areospace program, not much really:)
well here we go again
--
buckysan
Joseph Bay
>Hey, Star Trek was filmed in a studio... Didn't you ever notice the wires?
>Plus the fact that half the ship wasn't even built. :) Or maybe the wires
>were really CB antennas...
Yeah. Same thing with "The Eagle has landed". Wires, props, salt shakers
with lights on them. It was filmed in an airplane hanger with a bluescreen.
And an atmosphere :)
>Eos is a computer system at NCSU. Eos is also the Greek goddess of dawn.
>EOS is an advanced satellite system.
And it's a kind of cannon. I remember seeing the commercials in the late
1980s.
>What sort of school is "eden"?
Alright, I meant to ask what kind of school NCSU was, but that's moot now,
huh. You get a point.
>Billy Joe Bissette
I take your reticence as an indication that you truly
are Billy Joe from Green Day.
bjbi...@eos.ncsu.edu
>space. Using WHAT LIGHT? I guess they could have used radiation, but
>then they'd have to make the cities radioactive to show up on film, and
>that would kind of suck, wouldn't it. You know Star Trek wasn't filmed
>in space, but it looks like it was, doesn't it? Same thing with those
>"documentaries" of the early "space" program.
Hey, Star Trek was filmed in a studio... Didn't you ever notice the wires?
Plus the fact that half the ship wasn't even built. :) Or maybe the wires
were really CB antennas...
>By the way, what sort of school *is* "eos" anyway?
Eos is a computer system at NCSU. Eos is also the Greek goddess of dawn.
EOS is an advanced satellite system.
What sort of school is "eden"?
--
Billy Joe Bissette
David DeLaney
>ok one last time, YOU CAN SEE light in space, first of all space
>is not a total vaccum, but that would not make a difference in
>terms of seeing light. how else can the space probes use
>video cameras as well as the cameras for other e/m emissions in between planets
We've got space probes making video GIFs of rude emissions from other planets?
Wow! *Now* I understand why Jesse Helms wants to change all of NASA's funding
to money for putting up Space Billboards!
>an interesting experiment lets put you in a jar and suck all
>the air out, and see what happens :)
The jar implodes. Is this a trick question or something?
>first off light is radiation, or do you even know what radiatant
>energy is. it is just not a type that is normally harmful to us.
>and there are lots of clips of the planet taken from the orbiters
I'm fascinated. Tell us more about the radiatant energy.
Dave "is it refracted by aluminium prisms, perchance? KIBO WILL NOW DIRECT MATT
McIRVIN TO EXPLAIN THE PHYSICS-HISTORY IN-JOKE!!!" DeLaney
bjbi...@eos.ncsu.edu
In article <3a0mad$5...@er5.rutgers.edu>, b...@eden.rutgers.edu (Joseph Bay) writes:
>bjbi...@eos.ncsu.edu writes:
>
>>Hey, Star Trek was filmed in a studio... Didn't you ever notice the wires?
>>Plus the fact that half the ship wasn't even built. :) Or maybe the wires
>>were really CB antennas...
>
>Yeah. Same thing with "The Eagle has landed". Wires, props, salt shakers
>with lights on them. It was filmed in an airplane hanger with a bluescreen.
>And an atmosphere :)
A lot of that Eagle footage was from "inside" the lander with a really
crappy camera angle also... You'd think they'd find a better place to
put the camera if it were real... :)
So of course the real question is where did all that money for the
"space program" really go? Even though the special effects used by
NASA were better than those used on Star Trek, that wouldn't account for
all the money "spent"
>I take your reticence as an indication that you truly
>are Billy Joe from Green Day.
Actually, not that I know of. I thought you wanted confirmation, and simply
did not give that confirmation. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :) I don't
use my middle name "Joe," but it shows up automatically due to the fact that
NCSU has it on all my records and I'm too lazy to change my newsreader
signiture. But no, I do not beleive that I am Billy Joe from Green Day,
although I could always be mistaken or an unknown(or known)part of some
conspiricy.
--
Billy Joe Bissette
Herschel A Gelman
>>
>>BTW, the lights of cities can be seen from space, or has NASA been
>>doctoring photos again?
>
>R ALL STEW-BID.
I have a bunch of them in my directory, but NASA encrypted them with
something called rot13. I think this is that new unbreakable encryption
system developed at UCLA which even the government can't break. Unless
maybe they have a really really really really really fast computer.
Really really fast. Really.
Also, the rot13 file has ".jpg" at the end, which is probably yet another
level of protection, and since I haven't heard of it, it's probably some
top secret proprietary thing that's only used for internal government
correspondance. But if you want to try to decode all of this, you're
welcome to them.
> YOARS, SGT. BLOOMENKRAFFT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You misspelled "liederhosen".
Kevin Mauer
: Furrfu...some people are just too stupid to live. Don't you remember that
: electromagnetic energy changes frequency when it travels through media of
: different densities? That's exactly what happens when the normally-invisible
: radiation from stars crosses the boundary between space (not dense) to our
: atmosphere (very dense by comparison): its frequency changes into that of
: visible light so we can see it!
: --
: Ethan Straffin +-+ est...@next.com +-+ famed procrastinator at .sig design
: +-+ Pain makes you beautiful; painkillers make everyone else beautiful. +-+
: -- from the Judybats mailing list
Ahem... Ah, let's all try to remember highschool physics....
Light, as you stated, is nothing more than an electromagnetic wave.
Therefore, it does not need a medium to travel through. Light that is visible
in the atmosphere is also visible in space. While it is true, different media
will affect light differently, the frequency shift is not that much that
invisible electromagnetic energy, such as radio waves, will become visible
in the atmosphere. The greater affects of a media change on light (and em
energy in general) is refraction and reflection. In other words, certain
frequencies of light get through our atmosphere better than others, thus
the sky is blue, and the sun is red at sunrise and sunset.
David DeLaney
Lovely logic, yes, especially if you can perceive the curlicues.
|>BTW, the lights of cities can be seen from space, or has NASA been
|>doctoring photos again?
|
|DUS ENY1 HEV THEES FOE-TOES THET HEV BEAN TEMPUD WITH? NASA MUST THINK WEE
|R ALL STEW-BID.
|
| YOARS, SGT. BLOOMENKRAFFT
|
|++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hey a.c.e-m guys - I think I've found one of your escaped mijits, hiding out
in a.a.v! It appears to be having some trouble hanging up the internal modem
though - perhaps the eels shorted a critical component out? Please advise...
Dave "will crosspost to a.c.e-m for food" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney d...@panacea.phys.utk.edu "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. Disclaimer: IMHO; VRbeableWIKTHLC
http://enigma.phys.utk.edu/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ / CanterSiegelKibozeBait!!
Andrew B Stellman
AFRICAN AMERICAN .. by David DeL...@panacea.ph
> in a.a.v! It appears to be having some trouble hanging up the internal modem
> though - perhaps the eels shorted a critical component out? Please advise...
LEAYED HYIMMM TOO OREEVOLLLUUSZHIN - bzzxth b0--zz
oops, sorry. uhm, turn him over to the proper authorities, and we -- er,
they'll deal with him. and give him plenty of lime jey JEYLLO LAYIM
JELLO GOOOZ GOOD YUMMY LOYOIVE THAYT LAYIM JELLOYOO bz-0 er, sorry, uhm,
yes. lots of jello. and for god's sake, take him for a walk once in a
while! i mean, you'd think it was the worst fate in the world, walking
your midget around the block.
andy
Ron Morley
: Excerpts from netnews.alt.culture.electric-midget: 20-Nov-94 Re: ALIEN
: andy
Do not give this midget any lime jello. Lime jello is the substance
which is most abused by revolutionary midgets. Also, the midget
should not be taken outside and should be deactivated (you'll find the
main power switch behind a small panel on the back of the unit)
immediately. If you wish I will send a representative to pick up this
midget and bring him to my headquarters for interrogation.
Ron Morley
Chief Midget Executioner
--
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