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Keeper Of th' Flame

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January 31, 2003
A War Crime or an Act of War?
By STEPHEN C. PELLETIERE


ECHANICSBURG, Pa. - It was no surprise that President Bush, lacking
smoking-gun evidence of Iraq's weapons programs, used his State of the Union
address to re-emphasize the moral case for an invasion: "The dictator who is
assembling the world's most dangerous weapons has already used them on whole
villages, leaving thousands of his own citizens dead, blind or disfigured."

The accusation that Iraq has used chemical weapons against its citizens is a
familiar part of the debate. The piece of hard evidence most frequently
brought up concerns the gassing of Iraqi Kurds at the town of Halabja in
March 1988, near the end of the eight-year Iran-Iraq war. President Bush
himself has cited Iraq's "gassing its own people," specifically at Halabja,
as a reason to topple Saddam Hussein.

But the truth is, all we know for certain is that Kurds were bombarded with
poison gas that day at Halabja. We cannot say with any certainty that Iraqi
chemical weapons killed the Kurds. This is not the only distortion in the
Halabja story.

I am in a position to know because, as the Central Intelligence Agency's
senior political analyst on Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, and as a
professor at the Army War College from 1988 to 2000, I was privy to much of
the classified material that flowed through Washington having to do with the
Persian Gulf. In addition, I headed a 1991 Army investigation into how the
Iraqis would fight a war against the United States; the classified version
of the report went into great detail on the Halabja affair.

This much about the gassing at Halabja we undoubtedly know: it came about in
the course of a battle between Iraqis and Iranians. Iraq used chemical
weapons to try to kill Iranians who had seized the town, which is in
northern Iraq not far from the Iranian border. The Kurdish civilians who
died had the misfortune to be caught up in that exchange. But they were not
Iraq's main target.

And the story gets murkier: immediately after the battle the United States
Defense Intelligence Agency investigated and produced a classified report,
which it circulated within the intelligence community on a need-to-know
basis. That study asserted that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds,
not Iraqi gas.

The agency did find that each side used gas against the other in the battle
around Halabja. The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated
they had been killed with a blood agent - that is, a cyanide-based gas -
which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used
mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at
the time.

These facts have long been in the public domain but, extraordinarily, as
often as the Halabja affair is cited, they are rarely mentioned. A
much-discussed article in The New Yorker last March did not make reference
to the Defense Intelligence Agency report or consider that Iranian gas might
have killed the Kurds. On the rare occasions the report is brought up, there
is usually speculation, with no proof, that it was skewed out of American
political favoritism toward Iraq in its war against Iran.

I am not trying to rehabilitate the character of Saddam Hussein. He has much
to answer for in the area of human rights abuses. But accusing him of
gassing his own people at Halabja as an act of genocide is not correct,
because as far as the information we have goes, all of the cases where gas
was used involved battles. These were tragedies of war. There may be
justifications for invading Iraq, but Halabja is not one of them.


In fact, those who really feel that the disaster at Halabja has bearing on
today might want to consider a different question: Why was Iran so keen on
taking the town? A closer look may shed light on America's impetus to invade
Iraq.

We are constantly reminded that Iraq has perhaps the world's largest
reserves of oil. But in a regional and perhaps even geopolitical sense, it
may be more important that Iraq has the most extensive river system in the
Middle East. In addition to the Tigris and Euphrates, there are the Greater
Zab and Lesser Zab rivers in the north of the country. Iraq was covered with
irrigation works by the sixth century A.D., and was a granary for the
region.

Before the Persian Gulf war, Iraq had built an impressive system of dams and
river control projects, the largest being the Darbandikhan dam in the
Kurdish area. And it was this dam the Iranians were aiming to take control
of when they seized Halabja. In the 1990's there was much discussion over
the construction of a so-called Peace Pipeline that would bring the waters
of the Tigris and Euphrates south to the parched Gulf states and, by
extension, Israel. No progress has been made on this, largely because of
Iraqi intransigence. With Iraq in American hands, of course, all that could
change.

Thus America could alter the destiny of the Middle East in a way that
probably could not be challenged for decades - not solely by controlling
Iraq's oil, but by controlling its water. Even if America didn't occupy the
country, once Mr. Hussein's Baath Party is driven from power, many lucrative
opportunities would open up for American companies.

All that is needed to get us into war is one clear reason for acting, one
that would be generally persuasive. But efforts to link the Iraqis directly
to Osama bin Laden have proved inconclusive. Assertions that Iraq threatens
its neighbors have also failed to create much resolve; in its present
debilitated condition - thanks to United Nations sanctions - Iraq's
conventional forces threaten no one.

Perhaps the strongest argument left for taking us to war quickly is that
Saddam Hussein has committed human rights atrocities against his people. And
the most dramatic case are the accusations about Halabja.

Before we go to war over Halabja, the administration owes the American
people the full facts. And if it has other examples of Saddam Hussein
gassing Kurds, it must show that they were not pro-Iranian Kurdish
guerrillas who died fighting alongside Iranian Revolutionary Guards. Until
Washington gives us proof of Saddam Hussein's supposed atrocities, why are
we picking on Iraq on human rights grounds, particularly when there are so
many other repressive regimes Washington supports?

Stephen C. Pelletiere is author of "Iraq and the International Oil System:
Why America Went to War in the Persian Gulf."


Jpcottle

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> Iraq didn't gas its own people?

Revisionist history at it's best.
jpco...@aol.com

Jperdue4

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>> Iraq didn't gas its own people?
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>Revisionist history at it's best.
>jpco...@aol.com
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our goverment has gassed its own people and done worse....feeding plutonium to
pregnant black women "to see what would happen"....saints we aint....this is
some of the stuff we KNOW about......JonP
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/history-of-human-experimentation.htm

Peter Wimsey

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Feb 4, 2003, 7:52:41 PM2/4/03
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Jpcottle wrote:

Even without going into exactly what revisionist history is, I don't see
how an ex-CIA boss publishing an accounting of the Iraq-Iran war
qualifies. Perhaps he was stepping up to the plate after hearing the
pleas of Mr. Russo, or are the Pentagon Papers "revisionist history"
too?
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CutterJon

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> our goverment has gassed its own people and done worse....feeding plutonium to
> pregnant black women "to see what would happen"....saints we aint....this is
> some of the stuff we KNOW about......JonP
> http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/history-of-human-experimentation.htm

What he said.
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CutterJon

CutterJon

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If "history" is a lie, it should be revised.
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Keeper Of th' Flame

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Keeper Of th' Flame <td...@stargate.net> wrote

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> January 31, 2003
> A War Crime or an Act of War?
> By STEPHEN C. PELLETIERE

Just found a rebuttal in The New Republic:

http://www.tnr.com/docprem.mhtml?i=foreign&s=ackerman020403

History Lessen
by Spencer Ackerman
Only at TNR Online
Post date: 02.04.03
It is by now a well-established fact that chemical weapons claimed the lives
of over 5,000 Kurds in the northern Iraqi town of Halabja on March 16, 1988.
It is equally well-established that responsibility for this atrocity lies
with Saddam Hussein. Indeed, there is virtual unanimity among the dozens of
journalists, government delegations, and international human rights groups
who have investigated the matter that Halabja was the first frightful act of
Saddam's Anfal campaign, a genocide that consumed almost 100,000 Kurds in
all. Yet according to a chilling and incoherent op-ed published in Friday's
New York Times, Saddam had nothing to do with the massacre after all.

The author of this revisionist account is Stephen C. Pelletiere, a retired
Army War College professor who served as a senior Iraq analyst for the
Central Intelligence Agency during the Iran-Iraq war. Pelletiere is the
co-author of the 1990 book Iraqi Power and U.S. Security in the Middle East,
which concluded that Iranian gas, not Iraqi gas, murdered the Kurds at
Halabja. In his Times op-ed Pelletiere recycles this argument, only this
time against the backdrop of a second war with Saddam. He's no more
convincing today than he was 13 years ago.

Pelletiere begins by reprising the usual facts--namely, that Halabja was the
site of an intense battle between Saddam and the Iranians. He first concedes
that Iraq did use chemical weapons, but argues that the Iranians did as
well. The Kurdish victims of the chemicals "had the misfortune to be caught
up in the exchange." Pelletiere then cites a Defense Intelligence Agency
(DIA) report, issued shortly after Halabja, to support his conclusion that
Iranian gas killed the Kurds. His evidence? The Kurdish corpses "indicated
that they had been killed with a blood agent," which the Iraqis, "who are


thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have

possessed."

But this claim is wildly implausible. First, interviews by international
human rights groups with scores of Halabja survivors reveal no such
confusion about who deployed the chemicals. Kurds who were outside their
houses during the mid-morning attack "could see clearly that these were
Iraqi, not Iranian aircraft, since they flew low enough for their markings
to be legible," concluded Human Rights Watch in its 1993 report Genocide In
Iraq. In any case, the argument for Iranian culpability neglects the
logistics of the Halabja battle itself. The Iranians, who controlled the
town on March 15, would have no reason to use chemical agents against the
Iraqi counteroffensive on March 16, since the Iraqis retaliated with air
strikes and placed no soldiers on the ground against whom such weapons could
be used.

Second, even if the victims died of exposure to blood agents, this would be
perfectly consistent with the claim of Iraqi responsibility. A 1991 DIA
report, since declassified, concluded definitively, "Iraq is known to have
employed ... a blood agent, hydrogen cyanide gas (HCN) ... against Iranian
soldiers, civilians, and Iraqi Kurdish civilians." Nonetheless, it is far
more likely, according to the standard accounts of the attack on Halabja,
that mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin and tabun--and perhaps even VX
and the biological agent aflatoxin, which the Iraqis were also known to
possess--were the instruments of Kurdish murder. For example, Human Rights
Watch noted that survivors excreted blood-streaked urine, "consistent with
exposure to both mustard gas and a nerve agent such as Sarin."

Third, the 1988 DIA report Pelletiere cites to pin Halabja on the Iranians
was not the end of the DIA's inquiry. The DIA's April 19, 1988 cable--a
month after Halabja--took note of the fact that the Iraqis were already
forcibly resettling "an estimated 1.5 million Kurdish nationals," including
"an unknown but reportedly large number of Kurds [who] have been placed in
'concentration camps' located near the Jordanian and Saudi Arabian borders."
This in mind, the far more plausible story is that Halabja was part of a
concerted effort to settle the Kurdish problem "once and for all," in the
words of an October 24, 1988 DIA report--by wiping out the Iraqi Kurdish
population.

This brings us to the biggest problem with Pelletiere's argument: If the
Kurds were legitimate battlefield casualties, why is it Saddam subsequently
felt the need to slaughter nearly 100,000 more of them? Pelletiere writes
that any other examples of Saddam's chemical deployment on Kurdish victims
"must show that [the dead Kurds] were not pro-Iranian Kurdish guerillas who
died fighting alongside Iranian Revolutionary guards." But even if Saddam's
goal was to root out traitors, it's inconceivable that all or even most of
the residents of the dozens of Kurdish villages Saddam subsequently razed
were treacherous peshmerga, or that Saddam believed this to be the case.
Certainly the testimony of hundreds of Kurdish refugees, who have provided
remarkably consistent accounts of the genocide despite being dispersed from
Iran to Turkey, refute this. So does the fact that Saddam kept gassing the
Kurds after signing the August 20, 1988 ceasefire with Iran, as Samantha
Power points out in her 2002 book, A Problem From Hell. And in unguarded
moments, members of Saddam's regime have given lie to this rationale as
well. Saddam's cousin Ali Hassan al-Majid, entrusted to carry out the
Kurdish slaughter, was caught on tape at a Ba'athist meeting in May 1988
boasting about the Kurds, "I will kill them all with chemical weapons! Who
is going to say anything? The international community? Fuck them!" (Human
Rights Watch believes the tape is mislabeled, recording a conversation that
really took place in 1987--i.e., before Halabja.)

What's perhaps most infuriating, though, is that Pelletiere is now reviving
his decade-old hobbyhorse as a cynical argument against war with Iraq.


"President Bush himself has cited Iraq's 'gassing its own people,'

specifically at Halabja, as a reason to topple Saddam Hussein," Pelletiere
writes. Considering the Bush administration's "lack of a smoking gun" in the
U.N. weapons inspections, he continues, "perhaps the strongest argument left


for taking us to war quickly is that Saddam Hussein has committed human

rights atrocities against his own people."

Even if Pelletiere had his facts straight on Halabja, his would be a noxious
and dishonest argument against war. To begin with, it is an insult to the
principled antiwar critics who recognize and condemn Saddam's record of
genocide but who still oppose an invasion of Iraq. One such critic is
Maryland Democratic Representative Chris Van Hollen, who as a staffer for
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in September 1988 visited Kurdish
refugees in Turkey to determine what had happened in Kurdistan. Van Hollen's
team documented Iraqi chemical attacks on 49 Kurdish villages, leading him
to conclude that "at the end of the Iran-Iraq war, all evidence pointed to
the fact that [Saddam] used chemical weapons against the Kurds." More
important, though, Van Hollen grasps the distinction that eludes Pelletiere,
which is that while Bush invokes the Kurdish genocide in his brief against
Saddam, the president does so to establish Saddam's willingness to use
weapons of mass destruction, not to argue that, as Pelletiere ludicrously
puts it, "we go to war over Halabja." The only one fighting a war over
Halabja, it seems, is Stephen Pelletiere. And it's one he'd lost before it
had even begun.


Spencer Ackerman is an assistant editor at TNR.

Neil Krueger

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McHenry at wor...@wror.fweaorwe wrote on 2/5/03 5:38 PM:

> On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:07:11 -0500, "Keeper Of th' Flame"
> <td...@stargate.net> wrote:
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>> Keeper Of th' Flame <td...@stargate.net> wrote
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/31PELL.html?pagewanted=print&posit
>> ion=top
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>>> January 31, 2003
>>> A War Crime or an Act of War?
>>> By STEPHEN C. PELLETIERE
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>> Just found a rebuttal in The New Republic:
>>
>> http://www.tnr.com/docprem.mhtml?i=foreign&s=ackerman020403
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> Thanks for posting both sides of the story.
>
> The Positively Unsure, Steve Kid

This is the second URL that popped up here today that required registration
to view. Maybe you cold summarize it for us?

Peace,
Neil X.

Keeper Of th' Flame

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> This is the second URL that popped up here today that required
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History Lessen

KennyC

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CutterJon <c...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<040220031807177135%c...@yahoo.com>...

But the revisions shouldn't also be lies.
The kids who died huddled in a basement and the baby who died while
feeding at her mother's breast weren't exactly fightly alongside the
Iranians.
Jeffrey Goldberg of the New Yorker went to Iraq and interviewed the
people who were gassed. How many of the victims did Pelletier talk to?
I'll bet the answer is exactly none.
Kenny

Zenobios

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As a way to reaffirm the joys of life and diversity, if anyone is interested
in checking out some Kurdish music, the Kamkars are an awesome ensemble.
Nightingale With A Broken Wing.... search it, buy it, love it.

John

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