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Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 2, 2003, 3:41:59 PM12/2/03
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Hi --

This subject has come up a number of times, so it seemed it needed complete,
step-by-step instructions. Hope you find this useful.

================================================
Obtaining the free ComponentOne ActiveX controls
================================================

Go to http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/vbrkit/ and download the VB.NET Resource Kit,
if desired. Be assured there is NO NEED to do this, if .NET doesn't interest you.
Regardless of instructions to the contrary, you *never* need to install anything even
remotely related to .NET if all you're after is the ActiveX tools.

Near the top of the page, there is a section headlined "License key" that offers two
links to obtain your ComponentOne Studio Enterprise license key by e-mail. Choose
the appropriate one (U.S. or Outside the U.S.).

If you're in the U.S., you can probably skip the first page altogether, and go
directly here:

http://www.vbrkit.net/

For folks outside the U.S., there appaears to be little difference in the webform,
other than addressing fields:

http://www.vbrkit.net/?=ww

The only required fields seem quite innocuous. Name, email, country, etc. They
obviously need the email address so they can send you downloading and license key
information. The remaining fields consist of a survey about your use of, and
interest in, .NET -- I was totally honest.

"Don't use .NET; don't plan to."

After submitting the form, you will the license key will be emailed to you. If
ActiveX is all you're interested in, skip all the licensing stuff, and proceed to the
FREE BONUS SOFTWARE instructions. You need to click an individualized link taking
you to the download page. (I saved the email itself in the same folder I targetted
for the download.)

[[Note to self: "Your license key from ComponentOne.eml"]]

You are now on a page from which you can obtain the license key for Doc-2-Help as
well as download the FREE BONUS SOFTWARE. (I saved this webpage itself in the same
folder I targetted for the downloads.) Click the following links:

[[Note to self: "MicrosoftK_aspx.htm"]]

* Click HERE to download your FREE COPY of Doc-to-Help 6.5!
* Click HERE to download one-time update of Studio Enterprise for Microsoft Visual
Studio .NET!

The first download ("DocToHelp6_6.5.0.128.exe"), which is 28.7Mb, is the installation
program needed for that product. Be sure not to lose the license key provided on the
download webpage. It has the format: 01065M1-XX-NNNNNN (X=alpha,N=numeric).

The second is download ("c1enterprise_303.zip") weighs in at 186Mb, but contains the
real gems! Extract the installation package ("c1StudioActiveX_Q303.msi") from the
ZIP, right-click on it, and *Install* your choice of components!

Feel free to delete the following files, if you have no interest in .NET (and have
squirrled away the ActiveX MSI!):

12/02/2003 11:21a 195,499,110 c1enterprise_303.zip
08/01/2003 05:17p 18,796,544 c1StudioAsp_Q303.msi
07/31/2003 03:07p 57,959,936 c1StudioNet_Q303.msi

That's it! For your own protection, you probably should also burn the entire mess to
CD now, for future installs. I believe this is the complete list of free components,
as pulled from VB's own dialog:

ComponentOne C1Awk Control 8.0
ComponentOne Chart 8.0 2D Control
ComponentOne Chart 8.0 3D Control
ComponentOne Query Control 8.0
ComponentOne Query UI Control 8.0
ComponentOne Sizer/Tab Controls 8.0
ComponentOne Spell 8.0 Control
ComponentOne Thesaurus 8.0 Control
ComponentOne True DataControl 8.0
ComponentOne True DataControl Lite 8.0
ComponentOne True DBCalendar 8.0
ComponentOne True DBContainer3D 8.0
ComponentOne True DBDate 8.0
ComponentOne True DBGrid Pro 7.0 (OLEDB)
ComponentOne True DBGrid Pro 8.0
ComponentOne True DBGrid Pro 8.0 (OLEDB)
ComponentOne True DBList Pro 8.0
ComponentOne True DBList Pro 8.0 (OLEDB)
ComponentOne True DBMask 8.0
ComponentOne True DBNumber 8.0
ComponentOne True DBNumber Lite 8.0
ComponentOne True DBText 8.0
ComponentOne True DBTime 8.0
ComponentOne VSDraw 8.0 Control
ComponentOne VSFlexGrid 8.0 (DAO/RDO)
ComponentOne VSFlexGrid 8.0 (Light)
ComponentOne VSFlexGrid 8.0 (Light/Unicode)
ComponentOne VSFlexGrid 8.0 (OLEDB)
ComponentOne VSFlexGrid 8.0 (OLEDB/Unicode)
ComponentOne VSFlexString 8.0
ComponentOne VSPDF 8.0 Control
ComponentOne VSPrinter 8.0 Control
ComponentOne VSReport 8.0 Control
ComponentOne VSViewPort 8.0 Control
ComponentOne WebChart 2D DTC
ComponentOne WebChart 3D DTC

Enjoy... Karl
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[Microsoft Basic: 1976-2001, RIP]


Alan Silver

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Dec 2, 2003, 4:08:22 PM12/2/03
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In article <uvP28SRu...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, Karl E. Peterson
<ka...@mvps.org> writes

>Feel free to delete the following files, if you have no interest in
>.NET (and have squirrled away the ActiveX MSI!):
>

>08/01/2003 05:17p 18,796,544 c1StudioAsp_Q303.msi

Any idea what this lot is ? I do ASP stuff as well as VB, so if there's
something worth having for ASP I would be interested.

--
Alan Silver

Jeff Johnson [MVP: VB]

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Dec 2, 2003, 4:26:04 PM12/2/03
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"Alan Silver"
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> >08/01/2003 05:17p 18,796,544 c1StudioAsp_Q303.msi
>
> Any idea what this lot is ? I do ASP stuff as well as VB, so if there's
> something worth having for ASP I would be interested.

.NET ASP components.


Jeff Johnson [MVP: VB]

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Dec 2, 2003, 4:30:53 PM12/2/03
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"Jeff Johnson [MVP: VB]" <i....@enough.spam> wrote in message
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> > >08/01/2003 05:17p 18,796,544 c1StudioAsp_Q303.msi
> >
> > Any idea what this lot is ? I do ASP stuff as well as VB, so if there's
> > something worth having for ASP I would be interested.
>
> .NET ASP components.

Or, as we say in Not-Mixed-Up Land, ASP.NET.


Vanco Ordanoski

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Dec 2, 2003, 4:32:12 PM12/2/03
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Thanks Karl - really, REALLY great post.
I've been wishing to have those controls, but they've been just outside my
reach. Until now.

Vanco


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Bob O`Bob

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Dec 2, 2003, 5:20:37 PM12/2/03
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Karl E. Peterson wrote:
> This subject has come up a number of times, so it seemed it needed complete,
> step-by-step instructions. Hope you find this useful.


Ha!
Everyone should get a copy.

Heck, get several - those dotnet folks LOVE their inflated statistics...

Bob

Alan Silver

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Dec 2, 2003, 5:29:32 PM12/2/03
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In article <eq30RuRu...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>, "Jeff Johnson [MVP:
VB]" <i....@enough.spam> writes

>> > Any idea what this lot is ? I do ASP stuff as well as VB, so if there's
>> > something worth having for ASP I would be interested.
>>
>> .NET ASP components.
>
>Or, as we say in Not-Mixed-Up Land, ASP.NET.

I actually think it was closer first time round, just it should have
been
.NOT ASP, 'cos it's not ASP

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Alan Silver

Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:07:22 PM12/2/03
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Alan Silver <alan-...@furry-ferret.prestwich-smile-gemach.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

> In article <uvP28SRu...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, Karl E. Peterson
> <ka...@mvps.org> writes
>> Feel free to delete the following files, if you have no interest in
>> .NET (and have squirrled away the ActiveX MSI!):
>
>> 08/01/2003 05:17p 18,796,544 c1StudioAsp_Q303.msi
>
> Any idea what this lot is ?

Absolutely.NOT! ;-)

Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:06:45 PM12/2/03
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Bob O`Bob <filt...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Karl E. Peterson wrote:
>> This subject has come up a number of times, so it seemed it needed complete,
>> step-by-step instructions. Hope you find this useful.
>
> Ha!
> Everyone should get a copy.

Very highly recommended! :-)

> Heck, get several - those dotnet folks LOVE their inflated statistics...

Yep, but I wonder what they'd say if the C1 stuff gets more downloads than the damn
framework? <LOL>

Later... Karl

Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:18:52 PM12/2/03
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Cheers!

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Saga

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:24:34 PM12/2/03
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Thanks Karl!
Saga

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Alan Silver

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:20:20 PM12/2/03
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In article <uvP28SRu...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, Karl E. Peterson
<ka...@mvps.org> writes
>I believe this is the complete list of free components, as pulled from
>VB's own dialog:
<snip>

Yeah, and quite a few of them seem to be trial versions that have
already run out !! When you run the sample programs, you get a dialog
box popping up telling you that it's run out and you should register it.
You can click OK and the component seems to work (haven't explored it
fully yet, but it seems to be there), but who wants a component that
does this ?

Anyone know how to get full versions (other than paying full whack of
course), or was this some clever ploy to make us think we were getting
something for nothing ?

--
Alan Silver

Bob O`Bob

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:37:52 PM12/2/03
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Karl E. Peterson wrote:

> > Heck, get several - those dotnet folks LOVE their inflated statistics...
>
> Yep, but I wonder what they'd say if the C1 stuff gets more downloads than the damn
> framework? <LOL>


I know what they'd say: nothing.

But I consider it a nice fantasy that the message might get through.


Annoyance: after downloading all that stuff, my boot volume only had about 40MB
of free space, and the msi installer barfed instantly. After I freed up 100MB or so
from the boot volume, it at least RAN the installer
... so that I could tell it to install everything to the *other* volume
(which has about 50GB free)

Bob

Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:44:39 PM12/2/03
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Alan Silver <alan-...@furry-ferret.prestwich-smile-gemach.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

> In article <uvP28SRu...@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, Karl E. Peterson
> <ka...@mvps.org> writes
>> I believe this is the complete list of free components, as pulled from
>> VB's own dialog:
> <snip>
>
> Yeah, and quite a few of them seem to be trial versions that have
> already run out !! When you run the sample programs, you get a dialog
> box popping up telling you that it's run out and you should register it.

Aw, crap! I hadn't run into that yet. Need to revise the main document.

> You can click OK and the component seems to work (haven't explored it
> fully yet, but it seems to be there), but who wants a component that
> does this ?
>
> Anyone know how to get full versions (other than paying full whack of
> course), or was this some clever ploy to make us think we were getting
> something for nothing ?

Hit the "License" button on that popup form, and use the S/N that came in the first
email.

Thanks... Karl

Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:45:38 PM12/2/03
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Hi Bob --

>>> Heck, get several - those dotnet folks LOVE their inflated statistics...
>>
>> Yep, but I wonder what they'd say if the C1 stuff gets more downloads than
>> the damn framework? <LOL>
>
> I know what they'd say: nothing.

.NET: Better Than Nothing! (?)

> But I consider it a nice fantasy that the message might get through.

<g>

> Annoyance: after downloading all that stuff, my boot volume only had about
> 40MB
> of free space, and the msi installer barfed instantly. After I freed up
> 100MB or so from the boot volume, it at least RAN the installer
> ... so that I could tell it to install everything to the *other* volume
> (which has about 50GB free)

Bleh. Stupid installers will always be with us, eh?

Bob O`Bob

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:46:00 PM12/2/03
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Bob O`Bob wrote:
> Annoyance: after downloading all that stuff, my boot volume only had about 40MB
> of free space, and the msi installer barfed instantly. After I freed up 100MB or so
> from the boot volume, it at least RAN the installer
> ... so that I could tell it to install everything to the *other* volume
> (which has about 50GB free)


Crap!

installation still failed horribly.
Looks like it unpacks a bunch of installshield files wherever you point
it,
and then goes ahead and installs each of *those* to the boot volume
no matter what you wanted.


Bob

Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 2, 2003, 7:01:50 PM12/2/03
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Bob O`Bob <filt...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Well, that sucks.

I wanted them on C:, here. I'll try doing it on D: on another machine.

Sorry... Karl

Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 2, 2003, 7:20:22 PM12/2/03
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Bob O`Bob <filt...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Okay, if you just run the initial install, yeah, it slams the boot disk with
temporaries, but if you select "Custom" you can tell it where to put all the other
installshield executables. Of course, it then needs to fire off each of those, and
you need to cancel each of them. But, once you've done that, it seems you can copy
them individually wherever you want, and execute them in tighter quarters. I'd
recommend doing the initial install on a machine with the most available boot drive
space, if possible.

Alan Silver

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Dec 3, 2003, 10:52:43 AM12/3/03
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In article <3FCD24...@yahoogroups.com>, Bob O`Bob
<filt...@yahoogroups.com> writes

NO, the installation is lousy, but it does allow you to install (most
of) the files wherever you want. Trouble is, you have to specify this
for each and every one. You know, after you told it where you want to
install them in the first screen, it then pops up a separate
installation wizard for each one and you have to specify it all over
again. And, when that's all over, you then find it's *still* put some
stuff in the C: drive.

The install for webchart8 failed here. Some script error.

However, the stuff in C:\Program Files can be moved without problem
(just remember to change the links in your Start menu). They also bung
stuff in C:\WINNT (Grrr, why do they do that ?), so you should really
take a file list before and after and see what you can move off. Maybe
I'm weird, but I just can't see why the help file for one of their
components can't go in the install directory. Why does it have to go in
C:\WINNT ?

Anyway, once you have survived the installation nightmare, have a look
at the components. I think you'll agree that it was worth the hassle.
Some of them are just brilliant. I can see me wasting days messing with
this stuff.

--
Alan Silver

Alan Silver

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Dec 3, 2003, 10:53:52 AM12/3/03
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In article <O9ai#MTuDH...@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, Karl E. Peterson
<ka...@mvps.org> writes

>> installation still failed horribly.
>> Looks like it unpacks a bunch of installshield files wherever you point it,
>> and then goes ahead and installs each of *those* to the boot volume
>> no matter what you wanted.
>
>Okay, if you just run the initial install, yeah, it slams the boot disk
>with temporaries, but if you select "Custom" you can tell it where to
>put all the other installshield executables. Of course, it then needs
>to fire off each of those, and you need to cancel each of them. But,
>once you've done that, it seems you can copy them individually wherever
>you want, and execute them in tighter quarters. I'd recommend doing
>the initial install on a machine with the most available boot drive
>space, if possible.

Is it me, or is this one of the worst installations around ? For a
supposedly professional company, whose components certainly seem to be
first rate, the installation is awful.

--
Alan Silver

Alan Silver

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Dec 3, 2003, 11:42:11 AM12/3/03
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>> I know what they'd say: nothing.
>
>.NET: Better Than Nothing! (?)

Yeah, but only just ;-)


<snip>


>Bleh. Stupid installers will always be with us, eh?

No, stupid programmers who don't know diddly squat about how to write
scripts for installers. This one is a howler.

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Alan Silver

Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 3, 2003, 12:15:38 PM12/3/03
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Alan Silver <alan-...@furry-ferret.prestwich-smile-gemach.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

Dumb-ASSumptions. It worked flawlessly on my 120Gb RAID1 setup.

Karl E. Peterson

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Dec 3, 2003, 12:17:08 PM12/3/03
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Hi Alan --

> Anyway, once you have survived the installation nightmare, have a look
> at the components. I think you'll agree that it was worth the hassle.

Yeah, I do reluctantly agree.

> Some of them are just brilliant. I can see me wasting days messing with
> this stuff.

I take it you got past the licensing issue?

Alan Silver

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Dec 3, 2003, 1:46:26 PM12/3/03
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In article <OfwJJFcu...@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, Karl E. Peterson
<ka...@mvps.org> writes

>> Some of them are just brilliant. I can see me wasting days messing with
>> this stuff.
>
>I take it you got past the licensing issue?

Yup, just stuck the licence number in the dialog and I never saw it
again. One seemed to work for all the components.

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Alan Silver

Bob O`Bob

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Dec 3, 2003, 4:19:33 PM12/3/03
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Alan Silver wrote:

> Is it me, or is this one of the worst installations around ? For a
> supposedly professional company, whose components certainly seem to be
> first rate, the installation is awful.


uh ... compared to what?

Yeah, I think it's truly awful, but also I've hardly ever seen better.


Bob

Bob O`Bob

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Dec 3, 2003, 4:23:17 PM12/3/03
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Alan Silver wrote:

> Anyway, once you have survived the installation nightmare, have a look
> at the components. I think you'll agree that it was worth the hassle.
> Some of them are just brilliant. I can see me wasting days messing with
> this stuff.

Yeah, I've been using Videosoft's tools for ages.
Even did some contract work for them for a little while
(escalation tech support)

It's marvelous stuff.
Though I've had proper licensed copies of it all
up through just a version or two back.

The Apex line (pre-merger) didn't seem at all bad either.


Bob

Saga

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Dec 4, 2003, 11:36:27 AM12/4/03
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Speak of the devil...

Yesterday when I got home there was mail from Microsoft for me.
I opened it up and it contained a trial version of VS NET 2003
and a seperate CD with the Component One components.

(Twilight Zone coincidence here!)

Since I was planning of following up on this matter I guess I
should be happy... but it bewilders me as to how MS got my
address, since I just moved in that house in June. Maybe it
is the MSDN subs I got with them? (duh!) But then, why send me
this promo end-user publicity with the disks instead of
including it in the distribution discs - what the hay - just rhetoric.

Saga

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>

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Flying Pig

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Dec 4, 2003, 12:58:26 PM12/4/03
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Its still as bad as when I paid for the damn thing a few months ago :(

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