alt.tv.mad-about-you FAQ, Part 9/9
Ramaswamy
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Copyright: (c) 1994-1997 by Ramaswamy [ra...@ultranet.com]
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Frequently Asked Questions list (9/9) for
"Mad About You" and the
Usenet newsgroup alt.tv.mad-about-you
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Archive-name: tv/mad-about-you/faq/part9
Posting-frequency: quarterly
Last-modified: 97-01-30
Version: 5.1
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This Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list for the TV Comedy show
"Mad About You" is, as a collection of information,
Copyright (c) 1994-1997 by Ramaswamy [ra...@ultranet.com].
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Main Table of Contents
Local Table of Contents
9.0 Where can I find some Newsgroup related information?
9.1 What is this Newsgroup all about?
9.2 Does the cast and/or crew of MAY read this newsgroup?
9.3 Is there a mailing list for MAY?
9.4 Where can I find the episode guides for MAY?
9.5 Is there a Mail Server Site?
9.6 Are there any Anonymous FTP Sites?
9.7 Are there any World Wide Web (WWW) Sites for MAY?
9.8 Are there any non-English WWW sites for MAY?
9.9 Is there an Inter-Relay Chat (IRC) channel for MAY?
9.10 Are there any other chat-rooms for MAY?
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9.0 Where can I find some Newsgroup related information?
This is where any new member of the alt.tv.mad-about-you
newsgroup is expected to start, but sometimes there is no logic
to the organization of a document! But since you have found this
section, please read on...
9.1 What is this Newsgroup all about?
The alt.tv.mad-about-you group was created in February 1994.
If you are sending a message to the group for the first time, we ask
only that you send a message that is appropriate for the group and
that it is not insulting. It also helps to read the group for a few
weeks until you get a general feel of it.
Please refrain from using this newsgroup for personal messages.
This newsgroup is not to be used for commercial purposes.
- On posting "Spoilers":
MAY is not a mystery series, but some members do not care to have
advance word on story and plot lines, so if your post includes such
details well in advance, please include the phrase "spoiler" in the
subject header and toss in about 25 blank lines (spoiler space) at
the beginning. Please do not include any spoiler information in the
header itself, and remember the East Coast vs West Coast time
differential in North America if you are posting comments on a new
episode immediately after it has aired on the East Coast!
Typically this rule applies only to North American telecasts,
international viewing being a few weeks to a few months or even a
few years behind, but you may extend consideration beyond the shores
as well. However this FAQ does not attempt any such thing in these
sections, beyond a statement in the Introduction section.
- On posting Binaries:
Posting binaries to the group is not forbidden, but is strongly
discouraged. It is easier to post locations of FTP or WWW sites
and let interested people retrieve the files, or to post them to one
of the alt.binaries.* groups (following their guidelines for
posting) and let this newsgroup know. Typically, images should be
posted to alt.binaries.pictures.celebrities, sound-clips to
alt.binaries.sounds.tv and MPEG clips to alt.binaries.multimedia
etc.
Besides, some site administrators are known to object to binary posts
in non-binary newsgroups such as ours, and could decide to stop
carrying alt.tv.mad-about-you at your site... and who'd want THAT
to happen?
- On responding to Spams:
Spamming is the posting of the same article to multiple newsgroups
(usually every possible newsgroup) regardless of the appropriateness
of the topic. If anyone spams Usenet, including our group, please
DO NOT followup to the article.
When someone spams, chances are that person will NOT read our group,
or any other group, to see your witty followup, which will therefore
be directed only at other readers who ALREADY know the irrelevance
of the original spam post. If you see a spam show up in our group,
DO NOT followup. With your followup you will be perpetuating the spam.
Even if the original article is cancelled by a newsadmin, chances are
none of the complaining followups will be.
Please note that trimming the string alt.tv.mad-about-you from
the newsgroups: header and reposting a spam article does absolutely
no good; it merely starts a new thread with which you'll have spammed
every OTHER group still left on the header.
If you feel compelled to respond, send email to the poster (chances
are the address will be bogus), CC:ing the postmaster at that site.
Rest assured that many FAQ authors will be replying to the postmaster
at the offending poster's site.
Also note that a followup to the original spam post appearing in our
newsgroup may have got there as a result of a cross-post from another
group. Simply treat it as another spam, which it is.
If your newsreader has the option, by all means set kill filters to
avoid other folks's followups.
- In summary, the best course of action is to IGNORE spams.
9.2 Does the cast and/or crew of MAY read this newsgroup?
As far as can be determined, no writer or cast member of MAY even
lurks at this newsgroup.
It is likely that one infrequent, essentially anonymous poster (who
shared some inside knowledge from the Set) lurks here. Towards the
end of season #4 another anonymous poster kept exhorting the
membership to "have faith in the writers" but said little else, and
disappeared after the season finale. It is possible he/she was not
a member of the production crew, but affiliated with NBC or
Sony/Tristar.
Folks from NBC (and possibly also Tristar and Sony) are known
to lurk in here, primarily to monitor audience reaction.
But if a MAY writer/cast-member were to join us:
Some of the free-wheeling discussion style of the newsgroup will have
to be curbed. Discussion of past and present events on MAY will
continue to be fair game (including any spoiler posts about episodes
already filmed), however ideas about new plot-lines etc. must be
avoided. This is not a matter of violating anyone's freedom of speech
and such -- it is a matter of legalities. If a new idea is raised in
this forum that a MAY writer and fellow-newgroup-member happened to
be (coincidentally) working on at the same time, the writer is
obliged to scrap the idea and start all over again. They don't like
that, and will naturally opt out of the newsgroup.
In other words, if this newsgroup were to have MAY writer or cast
participation, any new idea raised in this forum is by definition
destined for the waste-basket/dust-bin.
9.3 Is there a mailing list for MAY?
No, there isn't. At least none that is widely known.
Unlike newsgroups like alt.tv.friends which began as a mailing
list, members of this newsgroup lived for the most part at rec.arts.tv
(and alt.tv.seinfeld) before alt.tv.mad-about-you was created.
However there is nothing to stop you from creating a mailing list
for MAY. All you need is a mail server host, some disk quota and
knowledge of listserv, and once set up, you could let other people
know.
9.4 Where can I find the episode guides for MAY?
If you are reading this section at a WWW site, chances are the
season-by-season episode guides are right here. Otherwise, you
can usually find the latest copies at the news.answers
Mail Server site and the following Web sites:
- http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~witelski/may.html
- http://sunflower.singnet.com.sg/~mikhail/
- http://www.yi.com/home/GoldsteinUdi/mad.html
- http://stud2.tuwien.ac.at/~e9525634/index_e.html
There is also a compact all-seasons guide available for the first
4 seasons (in text format) from Donna R. Lemaster at:
- http://avimall.com/entertain/MadAboutYou.drl
Carl Sobeski had also maintained a guide through the first 2 seasons
at the Tardis archive, now gone dormant.
9.5 Is there a Mail Server Site?
The news.answers archive at rtfm.mit.edu can provide a
document via email, usually within a few hours.
Depending on whether you wish to retrieve a single season's guide or
all the guides, send email To: mail-...@rtfm.mit.edu
with anything you like in the Subject: line (it will be
ignored) and one request per line of text in the body of
the e-mail:
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/season1
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/season2
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/season3
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/season4
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/season5
or
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/season*
Similarly for the multi-part FAQ (of which this is part9),
whose updated sections are flagged in the Main Table Of Contents
in part1, specify any or all of the following requests:
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part1
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part2
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part3
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part4
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part5
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part6
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part7
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part8
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part9
or
send pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part*
This access method will work for ANY document posted to or
cross-posted to the news.answers group. Use the published
Archive-name: with a prefix of "send pub/usenet/news.answers/"
(without the quotes) in the body of your mail, and wait...
9.6 Are there any Anonymous FTP Sites?
Most news.answers anonymous FTP sites archive this FAQ and the MAY
episode guides. Many FAQs, including this one, are available at these
sites in the US and abroad. The guides are archived in the MAY
directory itself, while the parts to this FAQ are to be found in a
'faq' sub-directory. The Universal Record Locator (URL) format of
the address is:
- the // element is the site name,
- everything else that follows is the directory-name,
- EXCEPT for the last element, which is the filename.
For example:
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/season5
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/faq/part1
Most of these FTP sites can also be accessed in this format
using a World-Wide-Web (WWW) browser to effect the transfer.
Just try the following for size:
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you/
The flagship news.answers archive site is rtfm.mit.edu and
the following mirror sites around the globe (along with their
mad-about-you main archive directories) are known to archive
MAY files:
USA: rtfm.mit.edu
/pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you
ftp.uu.net /usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you
ftp.seas.gwu.edu /pub/rtfm/alt/tv/mad-about-you
Europe: ftp.Germany.EU.net
/pub/newsarchive/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you
ftp.sunet.se /pub/usenet/tv/mad-about-you
Asia: hwarang.postech.ac.kr
/pub/usenet/news.answers/tv/mad-about-you
ftp.hk.super.net /mirror/faqs/tv/mad-about-you
nctuccca.edu.tw /USENET/FAQ/alt/tv/mad-about-you
Unfortunately not all news.answers mirror sites archive MAY files.
9.7 Are there any World Wide Web (WWW) Sites for MAY?
There are many World Wide Web sites devoted to MAY, and new ones are
coming online all the time. There are sites devoted to MAY, to Helen
Hunt, or to both, and then there are those "official" sites
maintained by Sony and NBC.
The following WWW sites are maintained on a non-profit basis by fans
of the show; some archive the latest versions of the MAY episode
guides and FAQ, and most also have links to many other MAY sites:
- http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~witelski/may.html
Tom Witelski put together the first known MAY page on the Web.
It archives the FAQ and Episode Guides, as well as Mark Plumb's
Quotes library. Along with cast biographies and filmographies,
there are also links to other MAY pages.
- http://sunflower.singnet.com.sg/~mikhail/
Mikhail Choo and David Kenwright (who originally created the first
Down Under MAY page) now maintain the above page in Singapore,
with the sounds of MAY and other goodies, like a newsletter called
"The Buchman Broadcast" being edited by Claire and Udi.
- http://www.yi.com/home/GoldsteinUdi/mad.html
Udi Goldstein maintains this page in the US from Israel.
A recently relocated site, maintained by Jeremy Johnston, offers
the sights and sounds of MAY, as well as transcripts of interviews
with Paul Reiser and Helen Hunt and the weekly Neilson ratings for
the MAY time-slot:
- http://www.spiritone.com/~jeremyj/MadAboutYou/may.html
Then there is a site devoted entirely to the sounds of MAY,
maintained by Vik Anand. If you have a sudden craving for
"Clamenza!" feel free to drop in at:
- http://www.primenet.com/~vik/
Another site with extensive sound-clips is the MAY page maintained
by Andrew 'Cracker' Horne, with graphics by David Kenwright:
- http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/6044/sounds.html
The following sites, originally maintained by Kurt Pifer
and Dave Chapman respectively, have gone dormant:
- http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~n020ic/may.html
-
ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/public/media/tv/collections/tardis/us/comedy/MadAboutYou/
There is still some hope for a new Captain Kurt site, while
Mario Mazzoni's site, still linked to from many other places,
has simply disappeared:
- http://nova.edmonds.wednet.edu/~mazzonim/MadAboutYou.html
The first known Helen Hunt page on the Web is maintained by
David DeAngelo, with a wide assortment of JPG/GIF images and
some other interesting information, including an old old
opening quote:
- http://www.pitt.edu/~pssst3/helen/helen.html
Another Helen Hunt home page is maintained by Matt Harrah,
with an exotic assortment of images, and a FAQ all its own:
Tony Delia's page is also extensive and well visited:
- http://fangio.magnet.fsu.edu/~delia/hhunt.shtml
Finally there is a significant new arrival on the scene,
maintained by Jessica Rothschild:
- http://members.aol.com/pianist2b/hhindex.html
Last, but far from least, there are the two official sites:
- http://www.spe.sony.com/Pictures/tv/mad/mad.html
Maintained by Sony Pictures Entertainment (TriStar is owned by Sony),
this site has extensive biographical information about cast members,
pictures and sometimes a few MPEG clips (1.4MB each) as well.
There is usually a write-up on upcoming MAY episodes (under Show
Topics).
Of late, the site also carries US syndication telecast schedules, but
the updates have been known to be unreliable and only reflect part of
the schedule in most markets in the US.
- http://www.nbc.com/entertainment/shows/mad/index.html
Maintained by NBC, this page has cast biographies, schedule and
synopsis of the upcoming episode, trivia challenges and often a
sneak preview of things to come.
Having said all that, and for benefit of all that have read this far,
here are two bookmarks you may save to get to all these places:
- http://www.tvnet.com/cgi-bin/utl?showcard+1028
-
http://www.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Television/Shows/Comedies/Mad_About_You/
A WWW browser is needed for accessing these sites. The setup is
non-trivial, so if you have WWW problems from your site, please
contact your site SysAdmin for information and help.
9.8 Are there any non-English WWW sites for MAY?
A few new fans of the show have put up bi-lingual MAY pages on
the Web. A MAY page for Spanish speaking fans is maintained by
Tomas Neira Ojeda from Santiago, Chile:
- http://www.usach.cl/ima/tnov10
For the German speaking audiences, there are three known sites.
So if you wish to look up the titles in German of MAY episodes
(no, they are not literal translations, and yes, they are quite
inventive) and sample sound-clips of Paul and Jamie's exchanges
in dubbed German, follow the yellow brick links below:
- http://stud2.tuwien.ac.at/~e9525634/index.html
Maintained by Alexander Poropatich and Michael Straszniczky
in Austria, with miniature flags to indicate the German vs
English preferences, devoted both to "Verröckt Nach Dir" und
Helen Hunt, or if you prefer, "Mad About You" and
Helen Hunt.
- http://www.sbox.tu-graz.ac.at/home/ls/sitcom/mad.lsg
Maintained by Stephan Lerchegger in Austria as part of a much
larger domain of Episode lists and guides; there is even a FAQ
for the site: http://www.sbox.tu-graz.ac.at/home/ls/meta/faq.html.
- http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~tokra/may.txt
Maintained by Torsten Kracke in Germany, in spite of the fact
that MAY has not yet started its run on German TV.
A sample conversation, transcribed by Alexander Poropatich and
Michael Straszniczky, should be easy enough to place:
Paul: "Du willst kein Bing und Bang?"
Jamie: "Anfangs wollte ich das..."
Paul: "Und Jetzt?"
Jamie: "... bin ich darueber hinweg."
Paul: "Du bist eine sehr komplizierte Frau."
Jamie: "Du willst keinen Boom?"
Paul: "Natuerlich will ich einen Boom. Die Jungs wollen immer nur
den Boom. Bing und Bang haben wir nur erfunden um zu
Boom zu kommen."
Jamie: "Ich dachte Dir gefaellt Bing und Bang."
Paul: "Ich liebe Bing und Bang, aber ich brauche sie nicht immer."
Jamie: "Ich auch nicht."
Paul: "Warum streiten wir dann?"
Jamie: "Wir streiten nicht!"
Paul: "Na gut."
If you have a Web browser, the unzip utility, a sound-card and
speakers on your system, download the following exchange in German:
- http://stud2.tuwien.ac.at/~e9525634/may/may201.zip
9.9 Is there an Inter-Relay Chat (IRC) channel for MAY?
The first publicized attempt at an IRC channel for MAY was
moderated by Mikhail Choo from Singapore on Undernet in August
1996. The inaugural session on September 14 had 47 participants
online for a session lasting about 4 and a half hours. The forum
is still an experimental venture:
Time: 12:00 USNO/EST
Days: Saturdays
Server: au.undernet.org
Channel: #madaboutyou
Another channel in the offing is on DALNet, and the time and day
of convening appears to be flexible, but usually 11PM Down Under
time, which is early morning US East coast time (and even earlier
for the US West coast). The moderator is an Aussie who goes by
the nick of "muldoon" and the channel is not very busy at
the moment as the Australian MAY telecasts are dormant, awaiting
the start of season #5:
Servers: firehouse.tx.us.dal.net, glass.dal.net,
dreamscape.dal.net, spider.ca.us.dal.net
Channel: #Mad_About_You
9.10 Are there any other chat-rooms for MAY?
Subscribers to America Online in the US have access to a
"Mad About You" chat room (keyword: MAY) on Tuesdays.
Addition information is usually also available at the NBC
booth (keyword: NBC).
An effort is underway to get a free chat room set up under the
auspices of Ultimate TV. If you are interested, please request
its creation when you register at:
- http://tvchat.utv.net/TVChat/
and if enough folks (30? 35?) register themselves and also
request it at the time of registration, a "Mad About You"
chat room could be online soon.
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