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Butch & Mary Ann Meese

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Jan 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/31/98
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In November, players were asked for suggestions to
update/improve the United States Backgammon Tournament
Rules & Procedures. I have received 114 suggestions
and I want to thanks all who submitted them.

Before I send them to a panel for voting, I am going
to open them up for discussion here at
rec.games.backgammon. Each rule will be posted
separately with suggestions over a period of 10-14 days.

After all comments are collected, I will add the comments
to the suggestions and then send the package to the panel.
Only serious comments will be included.

The names of the people providing suggestions and comments
will not be included unless they specifically state they
want their name included.

Butch Meese
me...@worldnet.att.net


UNITED STATES BACKGAMMON TOURNAMENT RULES & PROCEDURES
March 1990


4.9 COMPLETION.
Games must be rolled to completion, unless ended by a
pass of a double or redouble, or conceded in no-contact
positions as single game, gammon or backgammon losses. No
game may be cancelled and replayed, or settled. Matches
must be played to the appointed length.


Suggestion #1
Matches may not be ended with a DOUBLE-PASS. Settling of
games for equity should be allowed in the finals only
(no fractional points). Before then the play would be too slow.


Suggestion #2
We have a rule covering inadvertent concessions to the
effect that these stand once the result has been recorded
by an official.


Suggestion #3
Games must be rolled to completion, unless ended by a
pass of a double or redouble, or conceded in no-contact
positions as single game, gammon or backgammon losses.
No game may be canceled and replayed, or settled. Matches
must be played to the appointed length. It is the
responsibility of each player to check on the number of
points to be played to, either by referring to the draw
sheet or by asking a member of the tournament staff.
Failure to adhere to this, may result in disqualification
of either or both players and forefiture of any or all
prizes, trophies and auction pool. In special cases players
can be disqualified from participating in tournaments for a
period of time, though no longer than five years.
Settling of matches is not allowed unless permission is
given by the tournament director.


Suggestion #4
In no contact positions "premature rolls" are permitted (e.g.
bear-offs).

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Michael A. Urban

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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In article <6b0gld$n...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Butch & Mary Ann Meese <me...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> UNITED STATES BACKGAMMON TOURNAMENT RULES & PROCEDURES
> March 1990
>
>
>4.9 COMPLETION.
> Games must be rolled to completion, unless ended by a
> pass of a double or redouble, or conceded in no-contact
> positions as single game, gammon or backgammon losses. No
> game may be cancelled and replayed, or settled. Matches
> must be played to the appointed length.

Last month, in the 3 round of the NEBC monthly I mistakenly
reported to my opponent that our match was to be played to
11 points, (in fact 9 points was correct). Both of us,
went on to play to the 11 point score with that determining
who advanced. After, the match prior to the result being posted,
the mistake was pointed out to us. So what's the ruling?

Should the player who reached 9 pts first have won?
(in this case it was not the same person who got 11)

If the mistake had been pointed out in the middle of the match
what should have transpired?

What if the length played to had been shorter, say 7 pts?


mau


Steve Mellen

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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In article <mauEnv...@netcom.com>, m...@netcom.com (Michael A. Urban) wrote:

> Last month, in the 3 round of the NEBC monthly I mistakenly
> reported to my opponent that our match was to be played to
> 11 points, (in fact 9 points was correct). Both of us,
> went on to play to the 11 point score with that determining
> who advanced. After, the match prior to the result being posted,
> the mistake was pointed out to us. So what's the ruling?
>
> Should the player who reached 9 pts first have won?
> (in this case it was not the same person who got 11)
>
> If the mistake had been pointed out in the middle of the match
> what should have transpired?
>
> What if the length played to had been shorter, say 7 pts?
>
>
> mau

In a tournament I attended, two players played a 7 point match under the
mistaken belief that they were playing to 9 points. One player took an
8-0 lead, the other mounted a furious comeback, and they never realized
the error until they were playing at double match point! The director
ruled, correctly I would think, that the deciding game would have to be
played out to decide the match. Was this the right ruling? And what if
the mistake had been discovered when the score was, say, 8-5
post-Crawford? Or, just to really confuse matters, does someone want to
argue that it makes a difference whether the score was 8-8 at the time the
mistake was discovered, or 8-7 with the cube having been turned?

Incidentally, the trailer in this instance completed his comeback to win
the match. Imagine being known as the guy who blew an 8-0 lead in a 7
point match.

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