Surf report, Ocean Beach Jan 12
Dave Blake
65 degrees and sunny with light offshores.
12-15 foot faces pitching hard, fast, and peeling.
100+ guys out. 90 of them on 7'6" boards or shorter getting few
waves.
2.5 hours, 15-20 waves for me, frontside, backside, upside my head.
I got caught inside twice, and it was totally uneventful
compared to other recent events.
It is uncommon to be this warm and have surf this large. We are
very lucky. I took out the 9'10" in today's surf to get more
accustomed to it. It is really stable in big steep drops, and
turns easily at the relevant speeds. I would normally have used
my 8'6" on a day like today, but more board definitely didn't
hurt.
And, this is the end, beautiful friend. The wave machine is
turned off for a while after this swell. Neal is going to kill
the swell on his arrival in SD.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Carson XP
"Dave Blake" <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
news:slrna41phu...@popper.ucsf.edu...
> Just got back from the beach.
>
> 65 degrees and sunny with light offshores.
> 12-15 foot faces pitching hard, fast, and peeling.
> 100+ guys out. 90 of them on 7'6" boards or shorter getting few
> waves.
Similar surf conditions prevailed here today. Except the air was 76F, the
water 60F, and the surf was super clean due to Santa Ana conditions. Oh,
and the surf wasn't nearly as crowded in LJ and The Cliffs where Carson
surfed. It was about an 8 on the 10 scale in terms of quality.
Carson's 1.5 hour morning wave count in slightly overhead uncrowded gnarly
reef/point surf was 8 waves. In his 1.5 hour afternoon session in 2XOH+
super consiistent conditions he managed a 7 wave count session in pretty
hefty conditions.
Undoubtedly, B****s was significantly bigger than most spots. But it was
probably somewhat (if not fully) death defying. Consequently, Carson chose
carefully so that he can in fact spend the day with his boy tomorrow.
Just based on your report, it doesn't appear that today NorCal had anything
on SoCal (at least not SD). And it is likely that Neal will score while he
is here.
</SCR>
John Singer
> > Just based on your report, it doesn't appear that today
> > NorCal had anything on SoCal (at least not SD).
>
> You are full of steam. Look at and compare the closest buoys
> with spectral data during the afternoon (which, btw, would be a
> WISE thing to do before you spout off)
>
> Buoy data, Pt Reyes buoy
> UTC Hs Tp BAND PERIOD LIMITS (SECS)
> YYYYMMDDHHMM (CM) (SEC) 18-16 16-14 14-12 12-10 10-8
> 200201130114 308 11 239 975 647 1504 700
> 200201130144 315 7 314 895 1095 1112 596
> 200201130214 319 11 206 1187 619 1230 711
>
> Buoy data, Torrey Pines Inner Buoy
> 200201130119 127 15 98 267 261 204 64
> 200201130149 123 15 92 297 230 142 73
> 200201130219 122 15 108 320 222 92 97
>
> Your buoys are showing less than HALF the swell that ours show.
> Less than half !!!
Hehe. Busted...
> Now, I know B****s can get sizeable
Gee, I'm stumped...Carson isn't talking about Blacks, is he.
> It is already too late, I've turned the wave machine off.
> Monday morning Neal gets head high at the best breaks, and the
> rest of the week is flat.
Could be a perfect head high and clean at OB!
-John
Neal Miyake
> "Dave Blake" <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote: <snip>
> > It is already too late, I've turned the wave machine off.
> > Monday morning Neal gets head high at the best breaks, and the
> > rest of the week is flat.
>
> Could be a perfect head high and clean at OB!
Which OB? ;-)
sponge
Neal Miyake
> Carson XP <c...@h2ozone.net> scribed: <snip>
> > Undoubtedly, B****s was significantly bigger than most spots.
> > But it was probably somewhat (if not fully) death defying.
>
> not come up here and check it out. Your local swell was around
> 5 ft 12 seconds.
Why are you so hung up on buoy readings? Thought this was discussed before.
So much depends on swell angle, bottom contour, shoreline configuration,
spectral densities, etc. Each local buoy reading will translate to
different wave heights.
Heard that B****s has some serious underwater canyons that can channel and
amplify swell strength significantly. Same for a spot on Maui named P****
(aka J**s).
Even the depth of the buoys could make a difference. In Hawaii, buoy #1
(#51001) is positioned in 3,257.1 meters of water.
The Point Reyes buoy (#029, the one I assume you use), is in 548.64 meters
of water. Think this buoy is feeling the bottom if the swell is decent, and
would start affecting the measured wave height.
I'm not saying that Hawaiian buoys are more macho than San Fran buoys. I'm
just saying that if you compare, don't compare apples to oranges. Don't
know where the SoCal buoys sit, but each buoy is different.
Btw, kudos to you for surfing M*******s. Contrary to what Rick believe, I
feel it is a crazier spot than just about any other spot in the world. And
I know that colder water adds a whole 'nother magnitude of intensity.
<snip>
> > And it is likely that Neal will score while he is here.
>
> It is already too late, I've turned the wave machine off.
Sorry, eh, God. :-)
I just want to surf. I look forward to riding with the SD crew. That's
all.
<snip>
> And try not to
> inflate your wave sizes as much. When I say 12-15 foot, that
> means the larger sets looked like this
> [a day with nearly identical buoy readings as today, although
> the offshores today were not quite so hard]
> http://www.blakestah.com/surf/db2.jpg
>
> Around here, we call that 2XO. Put both your hands back on the
> sippy, pull your head out of your ass, and try to make surf
> reports that reflect reality as people other than Carson see it.
Yeah yeah. We saw this pic almost as much as we've seen Mark's stinkbug
pose. And we know, it's not you.
People from OB (norte) can call it however they want. Purely a localism
thing. Hawaii calls it a certain way (for the most part). Shit, each
person has their own personal scale. And that's just fine and dandy.
Back around 1997, I decided to try and shoot pictures during every one of my
surf sessions because I thought that my wave calling might be called out as
suspect (either too high or too low). At least it gave the reader a flavor
of the conditions encountered. I've kept at it since.
I don't call a 12 foot face wave double-overhead out of bravado. That's
just the way they call it here in the islands. You'd call it overhead.
That's fine.
Here, this is the surf I rode my last two sessions:
http://www2.bodyboarding.com/go2/currents/msipp02_1
http://www2.bodyboarding.com/go2/currents/msipp02_2
And nope, I didn't ride waves that size on Day 1. I admit that I ain't no
hellman. I have my limits and my fears. And I'm good with that.
sponge
Dave Blake
> "Dave Blake" <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote:
> > Carson XP <c...@h2ozone.net> scribed: <snip>
> > > Undoubtedly, B****s was significantly bigger than most spots.
> > > But it was probably somewhat (if not fully) death defying.
> >
> > If that is somewhat death defying to you, mebbe you bettah
> > not come up here and check it out. Your local swell was around
> > 5 ft 12 seconds.
>
> Why are you so hung up on buoy readings? Thought this was
> discussed before. So much depends on swell angle, bottom
> contour, shoreline configuration, spectral densities, etc.
> Each local buoy reading will translate to different wave
> heights.
I have a fairly good idea how these buoy readings translate
into wave face heights in SD and SF, simply because my good
friend rode B****s for 7 years, some of which while I was up
here.
Carson was blowing steam. I don't know exactly what he saw, but
if there was a single 10 footer coming through I'd be surprised.
And calling that 2XO+ is disingenuous no matter where you are.
> Even the depth of the buoys could make a difference. In Hawaii, buoy #1
> (#51001) is positioned in 3,257.1 meters of water.
Well, you could compare any of their coastal buoys to ours. On
the afternoon in question, they received 5 ft 12 seconds or so.
The Inner Torrey Pines buoy is quite close to B****s. B****s,
like Ocean Beach, is a swell magnifier. Ocean Beach is
typically close to double the size of other breaks, at its best
spots. B****s is not quite double, but close.
> Btw, kudos to you for surfing M*******s. Contrary to what
> Rick believe, I feel it is a crazier spot than just about any
> other spot in the world. And I know that colder water adds a
> whole 'nother magnitude of intensity.
On another note, I saw a bodysurfer head out at the same time I
did yesterday. I thought it was unusual to see such a
bodysurfer - HE must have balls much bigger than Sully. Then,
when I paddled out, I saw HER catch a wave. She was quite good
and rode over 100 yards on a macking 12 footer. It was
different from the surfers catching waves b/c she JUST barely
stayed ahead of the whitewater (and sometimes disappeared
into the foam and came out). A very nice lady, too. And she
went left on her first wave ;)
So, now, Sully, what say you ? I'm going to start giving you a
ring on appropriate days. This woman had a BLAST. It was the
first time I'd seen a bodysurfer out over 10 foot - more from
scarcity than lack of good bodysurfers, I am sure.
> Here, this is the surf I rode my last two sessions:
> http://www2.bodyboarding.com/go2/currents/msipp02_1
> http://www2.bodyboarding.com/go2/currents/msipp02_2
> And nope, I didn't ride waves that size on Day 1. I admit
> that I ain't no hellman. I have my limits and my fears. And
> I'm good with that.
We all do, Neal. I'm learning from days like yesterday that
something that is pretty core and nearly terrifying on a 7'6"
can be handled with grace on a 9'10" gun. Which is why I say
bigger wave riding is about approach, seeing it a lot, using
the right equipment, and choosing the right waves. We are
insanely lucky to have so many chances to surf the size waves
we do. Almost as lucky as you.
I am not certain about bodyboarding it. People do that in all
size waves, but you can't just choose a different bodyboard and
turn a monster wave into something much more handle-able. Or
maybe I'm displaying my ignorance of bodyboarding (which would
be pretty easy). But I kinda think bodyboarding huge waves
would be more like taking a 7'6" into all size waves. And that
would make me feel like I had limits that were not necessarily
real.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Dave Blake
Probably both !!
The weather pattern over the next week consists of a powerful
high to our north and west. This is generating a ton of wind
substantially to our north, and a lot of windswell from a steep
angle. In such cases, Pt Conception blocks most of SoCal from
any swell at all. To the extent it gets into San Diego at all,
you wanna be dawn patrolling with OBsurfr. It's weird, had you
chosen any of the last 6 weeks, you would have seen EPIC San
Diego surf. This week coming up is kinda off. You oughta have
fun, just watch out when George the WaveHog and n8 drop in on
you.
And be especially careful around Adventure Dog. She is a
vicious man-eater that guards OBsurfr with ferocity. ;)
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Timothy B. Maddux
Neal Miyake <spo...@iav.com> wrote:
>Heard that B****s has some serious underwater canyons that can channel and
>amplify swell strength significantly.
Yeah, like a lens. Bigger waves at some spots and
smaller waves just down the beach. The canyons off
of Ox**rd can be just as unpredictable, and then
there's our islands and swell shadow from Pt.
Conception as well.
For all those reasons I don't rely on inside buoys
to get the sense of a swell.
>...each person has their own personal scale. And that's just fine and dandy.
Well, it does make it difficult to communicate, which
can be a problem on a world-wide forum.
>I don't call a 12 foot face wave double-overhead out of bravado. That's
>just the way they call it here in the islands. You'd call it overhead.
>That's fine.
No, it's bizarre.
Had to move a friend yesterday so I didn't make it out, but I did
take a look at the point. Saw some occasional sets that looked
overhead and a half (9'-10' faces), perhaps a little bigger on
the very top of Stables? The memorial contest in memory of
Donnie Solomon (local kid who died at Waimea just about a year
after Mark Foo) had a small setup just inside there and some
good surfing was happening. I think Luis Meija is supposed to
be around for this thing but I didn't see him. Might head down
there now and look for him.
So, as big as I saw there I wouldn't be surprised if Ox**rd had
double overhead (12', not whatever Blakestah needs to call it that)
surf yesterday.
--
.-``'. Tim Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB
.` .`~ Santa Barbara Surfing - http://www.me.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
_.-' '._ All your wave are belong to me!
Tim
what's with all the ****s for popular and well-known spots like Black's?
Was there a complex joke for which all the secrecy is an ongoing punchline?
Otherwise, with all the asterisks, messages in this group are rapidly
resembling redacted CIA documents. "***** **** **** surfing ****!"
T.
Always Stoke
It's obviously a sarcastic joke since there's really not such a thing as
a "secret" break in SoCA! ;-) Unlees of course you just started surfing.
BLACK'S Oh my god, I said it, OOPS.
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
John Singer
news:eastcoastcharger-E1...@news.bellatlantic.net...
Don't forget Mavericks and Oxnard.
-J**n
Always Stoke
> Just got back from the beach.
>
> 65 degrees and sunny with light offshores.
> 12-15 foot faces pitching hard, fast, and peeling.
Sweet.
> 100+ guys out.
<LOL> EECH! I couldn't imagine. You'd think in a
group that big there's BOUND to be.....
> 90 of them on 7'6" boards or shorter getting few waves.
.....some kooks eh? Hmmm... <G>
> 2.5 hours, 15-20 waves for me,
Nice!
> frontside, backside, upside my head.
> I got caught inside twice, and it was totally uneventful
> compared to other recent events.
aiight..
> It is uncommon to be this warm and have surf this large.
65F, you're stoked!
It's sorta warm here for Jan: 43F wnds W @ 35mph
Too bad it's as flat as a lake.......Atlantic. <lol>
> We are
> very lucky. I took out the 9'10" in today's surf to get more
> accustomed to it.
Does it say "DaBull" on it? d;-)
> It is really stable in big steep drops,
I would HOPE so.
> and
> turns easily at the relevant speeds. I would normally have used
> my 8'6" on a day like today, but more board definitely didn't
> hurt.
>
> And, this is the end, beautiful friend. The wave machine is
> turned off for a while after this swell. Neal is going to kill
> the swell on his arrival in SD.
<LOL> Neeeeaaalllll.... stealth it, try a dif approach brah.
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
OBsurfr
Ask TDsurf about the vicious Adventure dog. I thought Tom was going to lose
a leg when he came to my house for a visit yesterday! Dang it was close!
Tom, wife Izzy, myself and Adventure dog hit some reef action this morning.
Took a couple of shots with the digital camera:
http://www.kneed4speed.com/tdsurf.htm
I was very surprised to see TD knowing how hurting he was just afew days
ago. He appeared to have fun surfing with me despite my reputation has a
wave hog ;)
OB(hey! hey! Got it! My wave!!)surfr
Dave Blake
> So, as big as I saw there I wouldn't be surprised if Ox**rd
> had double overhead (12', not whatever Blakestah needs to
> call it that) surf yesterday.
You may have noticed that I used the wave face height in feet
in my surf report. I was contesting Carson calling B****s
double overhead plus when the closest buoy was reading 5 ft 12
seconds. Double overhead plus ought to be 12 foot MINIMUM wave
faces no matta where you from. And no matter what, surf at
B****s in 5 ft 12 sec conditions is not death defying to very
many people. Certainly not to the locals.
Our buoys read 8 ft 14 seconds at the same time. Our beach is
also a lens for swells, and has a relationship between buoy
reading and wave face size that is remarkably close to B****s.
I'd really like to hear from anyone else who surfed B****s
Saturday, b/c I'd really like to know if I am giving Carson a
ton o shit wrongly. And if so, I will apologize. All they have
to do is confirm it was double overhead plus Saturday afternoon
AND it was death defying to surf there.
On another note. If head high is 6 foot, overhead should be
around 8 foot (noticeably larger than head high), otherwise the
two terms are interchangeable, which we know they are not.
12 feet faces would be double head high, not double overhead,
or else you are math challenged. 15 foot would be close to
double overhead, but triple head high wouldn't be reached until
18 feet (not triple overhead until 24 feet or so).
Didn'tja ever see the inconsistency in head high being 6 feet,
yet triple overhead being called at 15 feet ???? It is a
watered down scale. Double overhead should be twice as large as
overhead. Triple overhead should be three times as high as
overhead.
Now people will jump in and say overhead is head high plus ANY
amount, but we know that term is not used as such. Everyone
uses overhead as noticeably higher than head high. Not
trivially higher, noticeably higher. Even so, head high at 6
foot and double overhead at 10 foot is still horribly watered
down. Heck - overhead and double overhead are only 25%
different in size !
And, btw, I didn't invent our local scale, although I have
started using face heights in feet to be able to communicate
with people from other locales effectively. I was forced into
using our local scale by ridicule from others. Peer pressure,
ya know ? But it does translate into mathematically appropriate
use of the terms double and triple.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
OBsurfr
Holy sh*t! You just broke the most sacred rule of all. Giving out a spot
name, regardless of the fact that it is a world famous spot!! There are
people on AS that will threaten you with violence for such transgressions.
Repent! ;) ;)
"Tim" <t...@timmm.com> wrote in message
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OBsurfr
"Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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out and do it myself ;) ;)
OB(still afraid and paranoid as well)surfr
Always Stoke
to <sniP> any bit of the below diatribe. A classic TKO. <LOL>
Some one toss'm a smelling salt. d;-)
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu wrote:
> Carson XP <c...@h2ozone.net> scribed:
> > "Dave Blake" <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>
> > > Just got back from the beach.
> > >
> > > 65 degrees and sunny with light offshores.
> > > 12-15 foot faces pitching hard, fast, and peeling.
> > > 100+ guys out. 90 of them on 7'6" boards or shorter getting few
> > > waves.
>
> > Similar surf conditions prevailed here today. Except the air
> > was 76F, the water 60F, and the surf was super clean due to
> > Santa Ana conditions. Oh, and the surf wasn't nearly as
> > crowded in LJ and The Cliffs where Carson surfed. It was
> > about an 8 on the 10 scale in terms of quality.
>
> 100+ people out at Ocean Beach is nearly nada. These surfers
> were spread over more than a mile of breaks. I didn't charge
> exactly one wave because of other surfers. It closed out and I
> got a nice followup in the set.
>
> > Carson's 1.5 hour morning wave count in slightly overhead
> > uncrowded gnarly reef/point surf was 8 waves. In his 1.5
> > hour afternoon session in 2XOH+ super consiistent conditions
> > he managed a 7 wave count session in pretty hefty conditions.
>
> > Undoubtedly, B****s was significantly bigger than most spots.
> > But it was probably somewhat (if not fully) death defying.
>
> If that is somewhat death defying to you, mebbe you bettah
> not come up here and check it out. Your local swell was around
> 5 ft 12 seconds.
>
>
> > Just based on your report, it doesn't appear that today
> > NorCal had anything on SoCal (at least not SD).
>
> You are full of steam. Look at and compare the closest buoys
> with spectral data during the afternoon (which, btw, would be a
> WISE thing to do before you spout off)
>
> Buoy data, Pt Reyes buoy
> UTC Hs Tp BAND PERIOD LIMITS (SECS)
> YYYYMMDDHHMM (CM) (SEC) 18-16 16-14 14-12 12-10 10-8
> 200201130114 308 11 239 975 647 1504 700
> 200201130144 315 7 314 895 1095 1112 596
> 200201130214 319 11 206 1187 619 1230 711
>
> Buoy data, Torrey Pines Inner Buoy
> 200201130119 127 15 98 267 261 204 64
> 200201130149 123 15 92 297 230 142 73
> 200201130219 122 15 108 320 222 92 97
>
> Your buoys are showing less than HALF the swell that ours show.
> Less than half !!! Not comparable, less than HALF !! My god you
> have an awfully inflated sense of wave size. The beach break we
> punched through before paddling out was larger than your waves.
> Ocean Beach is one of the largest breaks for any given swell,
> similar to B****s.
>
>
> Now, I know B****s can get sizeable, but then the buoys show
> more than the 5 ft 12 sec they read today.
>
> When you say 2XO+, I am thinking it is like this
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/20638082/15080766wlIFnmnIjP
> (which still, by the way, was substantially smaller than Ocean
> Beach today).
>
> Instead, after reading the buoy reports, I am thinking it is
> more like this
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/20638082/15080444YbwxDHTCXa
>
>
> > And it is likely that Neal will score while he is here.
>
> It is already too late, I've turned the wave machine off.
> Monday morning Neal gets head high at the best breaks, and the
> rest of the week is flat. So flat, in fact, that you will be
> sipping lattes wishing it were bigger. (Sorry Neal, I didn't
> know about it in time. We have to plan these things
> significantly in advance). If you are nice to me
> (or if you get OBsurfr to use his magic), you might have
> something shoulder high by NEXT weekend. Maybe. And try not to
> inflate your wave sizes as much. When I say 12-15 foot, that
> means the larger sets looked like this
> [a day with nearly identical buoy readings as today, although
> the offshores today were not quite so hard]
> http://www.blakestah.com/surf/db2.jpg
>
> Around here, we call that 2XO. Put both your hands back on the
> sippy, pull your head out of your ass, and try to make surf
> reports that reflect reality as people other than Carson see it.
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
HOT dammm Sarge, git us sum popcorn there buddy.
Hell wit the WWF Smackdown, we got r'selves a
regular AS Steel Cage Match 2002!
</trailer park dialect>
phhhew....gittin ornry 'round heah.
"Neal Miyake" <spo...@iav.com> wrote:
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
<lol> hahaa...joke taken. :)
> OB(still afraid and paranoid as well)surfr
Yeah, I know, BLACK'S is such a hidden secret.
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
> "A***s S***e"
> > T*m <t*m@t*mmm.com> wrote:
> >
> > > While I can appreciate the importance of keeping secret spots secret,
> > > what's with all the ****s for popular and well-known spots like Black's?
> > > Was there a complex joke for which all the secrecy is an ongoing
> punchline?
> > >
> > > Otherwise, with all the asterisks, messages in this group are rapidly
> > > resembling redacted CIA documents. "***** **** **** surfing ****!"
> >
> >
> >
> > It's obviously a sarcastic joke since there's really not such a thing
> as
> > a "secret" break in SoCA! ;-) Unlees of course you just started
> surfing.
> >
> > BLACK'S Oh my god, I said it, OOPS.
> Don't forget Mavericks and Oxnard.
>
> -J**n
L * N * D * B * Y
--
.....m*rk ....just, m*rk
Mike Sullivan
Dave Blake wrote:
> Neal Miyake <spo...@iav.com> scribed:
> > "Dave Blake" <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>
snip
> On another note, I saw a bodysurfer head out at the same time I
> did yesterday. I thought it was unusual to see such a
> bodysurfer - HE must have balls much bigger than Sully. Then,
> when I paddled out, I saw HER catch a wave. She was quite good
> and rode over 100 yards on a macking 12 footer. It was
> different from the surfers catching waves b/c she JUST barely
> stayed ahead of the whitewater (and sometimes disappeared
> into the foam and came out). A very nice lady, too. And she
> went left on her first wave ;)
>
> So, now, Sully, what say you ? I'm going to start giving you a
> ring on appropriate days. This woman had a BLAST. It was the
> first time I'd seen a bodysurfer out over 10 foot - more from
> scarcity than lack of good bodysurfers, I am sure.
you prolly saw Cece. I have a pic of her looking at a huge Mavs wave
but couldn't get a confirm that she actually took off. I know
she's surfed big stuff all over NoCal though I've never been
privved to surf with her. From what I've heard she can surf
circles around me.
I'll let you know when I'm healthy and you can call me out!
Thnx for the report, and congratulations you and kdalle for
taking off at Mavs, that's a damn feather for your cap!
Mike
Neal Miyake
> Neal Miyake <spo...@iav.com> wrote: <snip>
> >...each person has their own personal scale. And that's just fine and
dandy.
>
> Well, it does make it difficult to communicate, which
> can be a problem on a world-wide forum.
Think I need to do another poll. Maybe this time it needs to be an online
visual one.
sponge
Neal Miyake
> size waves, but you can't just choose a different bodyboard and
> turn a monster wave into something much more handle-able. Or
> maybe I'm displaying my ignorance of bodyboarding (which would
> be pretty easy). But I kinda think bodyboarding huge waves
> would be more like taking a 7'6" into all size waves. And that
> would make me feel like I had limits that were not necessarily
> real.
Pretty much. There are bigger, thicker, stiffer boards that work better in
bigger waves, but you cannot cut though chop like with a 9' gun.
I usually use just one board at a time, riding all sizes and types of waves.
But that's me.
Bodyboards are among the most versatile waveriding devices you can find.
sponge
kdalle
fallacious.
Size declarations only matter when talking about the same spot. 10' at
Ocean Beach vs. Sunset beach vs. Teahupoo (sp?) are so different that
there is no point in using a size measurement.
Also, most waves are peaks of one form or another. do you measure the
wave at the peak? If you caught the wave that was 10' but you were off
the peak where is was only 5', how big would you say the wave was that
you you rode? Now, if you were to just say that it was 2' today
yesterday in Bradley Beach and 1', today, that information might be
useful (but not to someone who want to surf real waves :^)
Dave, you said that Saturday the waves ranged to 4x. You must be
shrinking dude! I was out also and do not believe I saw a wave that I
would consider more than 2x (12' face at the peak).
Personally I try to stick to wetsuit sizes e.g. small, large,
extra-large and "that big for any human being"!
jeff
Carson XP
> Carson XP <c...@h2ozone.net> scribed:
> > "Dave Blake" <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>
> > Similar surf conditions prevailed here today. Except the air
> > was 76F, the water 60F, and the surf was super clean due to
> > Santa Ana conditions. Oh, and the surf wasn't nearly as
> > crowded in LJ and The Cliffs where Carson surfed. It was
> > about an 8 on the 10 scale in terms of quality.
>
> 100+ people out at Ocean Beach is nearly nada. These surfers
> were spread over more than a mile of breaks. I didn't charge
> exactly one wave because of other surfers. It closed out and I
> got a nice followup in the set.
>
>
> > Undoubtedly, B****s was significantly bigger than most spots.
> > But it was probably somewhat (if not fully) death defying.
>
> If that is somewhat death defying to you, mebbe you bettah
> not come up here and check it out. Your local swell was around
> 5 ft 12 seconds.
<SCR>
Here you go again... holding yourself out as the expert on every surfing
area known to man. You must be an even shrimpier little guy than all of the
reports on you that Carson heard (undoubtedly a mesomorph). A little guy
like you couldn't even make it out at B****s when it's breaking like it has
been over the past week or so. Keep flattering yourself otherwise, but the
profile on you from your visit to SD depicts a very tentative, meek, skinny
and frail little wussy.
But, you ride a big board, right? You gotta get some size out of something,
eh?
</SCR>
>
>
> > Just based on your report, it doesn't appear that today
> > NorCal had anything on SoCal (at least not SD).
>
> You are full of steam. Look at and compare the closest buoys
> with spectral data during the afternoon (which, btw, would be a
> WISE thing to do before you spout off)
>
> Buoy data, Pt Reyes buoy
> UTC Hs Tp BAND PERIOD LIMITS (SECS)
> YYYYMMDDHHMM (CM) (SEC) 18-16 16-14 14-12 12-10 10-8
> 200201130114 308 11 239 975 647 1504 700
> 200201130144 315 7 314 895 1095 1112 596
> 200201130214 319 11 206 1187 619 1230 711
>
> Buoy data, Torrey Pines Inner Buoy
> 200201130119 127 15 98 267 261 204 64
> 200201130149 123 15 92 297 230 142 73
> 200201130219 122 15 108 320 222 92 97
>
> Your buoys are showing less than HALF the swell that ours show.
> Less than half !!! Not comparable, less than HALF !! My god you
> have an awfully inflated sense of wave size. The beach break we
> punched through before paddling out was larger than your waves.
> Ocean Beach is one of the largest breaks for any given swell,
> similar to B****s.
<SCR>
You don't even know B*****s. So your opinion means shit. You site two buoy
readings, both providing very little representation for the areas surfed...
Pt Reyes is the furthest west reaching piece of CA, and does not accurately
depict what you got in OB. Torrey Pines Inner is situated in a bite of
sorts.
Bottomline, check out the photos on the net for areas around SD yesterday.
You will see big, clean and powerful surf.
</SCR>
> Around here, we call that 2XO. Put both your hands back on the
> sippy, pull your head out of your ass, and try to make surf
> reports that reflect reality as people other than Carson see it.
<SCR>
Careful pounding your chest there, dave. From all accounts, you are built
like a skinny 12 year old... GIRL. Practice what you preach, little missy.
What's so laughable about your report yesterday was your wave count,
"15-20". That's such a crock of shit. Either you didn't catch any waves
and you came up with what you thought would pass for a reasonable count for
someone out 2.5 hours, or what you caught was entirely weak. Carson would
bet his yuppie bonus that you came up with doughnutsd. When good surfers
catch waves, they can count them... because they catch waves that count.
They will tell you each and every delectable wave they had. If someone
cannot, and instead they give you a range, then they are lying. How do you
explain that, little missy?
Never mind, this is way over your head.
</SCR>
>
> --
> Dave Blake
> dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Dave Blake
> Dave, you said that Saturday the waves ranged to 4x. You must be
> shrinking dude! I was out also and do not believe I saw a wave that I
> would consider more than 2x (12' face at the peak).
I said 12-15', I was close to Docs. If you were at your normal
spot there is a reasonable explanation.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Dave Blake
> What's so laughable about your report yesterday was your wave
> count, "15-20". That's such a crock of shit. Either you
> didn't catch any waves and you came up with what you thought
> would pass for a reasonable count for someone out 2.5 hours,
> or what you caught was entirely weak. Carson would bet his
> yuppie bonus that you came up with doughnutsd. When good
> surfers catch waves, they can count them... because they
> catch waves that count. They will tell you each and every
> delectable wave they had. If someone cannot, and instead
> they give you a range, then they are lying. How do you
> explain that, little missy?
Dunno. I stopped counting around 12.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Dan King
I'm skipping a lot of comments that I'd like to make on this thread because
I am pretty exhausted from so much surf. AFAIC 2001 was pretty lackluster
for surf, but it sure went out with a bang, and 2002 so far has been
unbelievably good, and in particular the last few days have been
incredible.
Big Wave Blake <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote in
news:slrna43kun...@popper.ucsf.edu:
> Timothy B. Maddux <tbma...@alumni.caltech.edu> scribed:
>
>> So, as big as I saw there I wouldn't be surprised if Ox**rd
>> had double overhead (12', not whatever Blakestah needs to
>> call it that) surf yesterday.
>
> You may have noticed that I used the wave face height in feet
> in my surf report. I was contesting Carson calling B****s
> double overhead plus when the closest buoy was reading 5 ft 12
> seconds.
First, TPI is not the closest source of wave data. There's a wave buoy at
Scripp's Pier, just a few hundred yards away. Like TPI, it is not
particularly useful for wave data. Unlike TPI, it is very useful for wind
data. I am not about to get into the arcana of local buoy data
interpretation here, email me if you want further information. For now,
suffice it to say that you are less than entirely dialed in for Black's.
Second, as Neal has pointed out, SWH and dominant period from a single buoy
are far from the whole story on actual surf conditions, for a variety of
reasons. I probably appreciate this fact much more than you do, since I
live an hour from the closest beach and I rely very heavily on buoy data to
determine when to make the drive.
> Double overhead plus ought to be 12 foot MINIMUM wave
> faces no matta where you from.
Correct.
> And no matter what, surf at
> B****s in 5 ft 12 sec conditions is not death defying to very
> many people. Certainly not to the locals.
Double overhead, fat-lipped top-to-bottom spitters that jack up out of
nowhere, with absolutely no warning, in seemingly random locations are,
IMHO, non-trivial - especially after the fog bank rolls in over Pt LJ and
limits visibility to < 100 feet.
> Our buoys read 8 ft 14 seconds at the same time.
Your buoys are irrelevant to our surf conditions. They may or may not be
relevant to your surf conditions.
> I'd really like to hear from anyone else who surfed B****s
> Saturday, b/c I'd really like to know if I am giving Carson a
> ton o shit wrongly. And if so, I will apologize. All they have
> to do is confirm it was double overhead plus Saturday afternoon
> AND it was death defying to surf there.
I was out at Black's on Saturday morning, and it was 10 to 12 foot faces,
with a few sets going bigger. Light offshore wind at dawn, dropping to dead
calm. Sunny early, fogged rolled in at about 09:45. Insanely good lefts,
the kind where I needed every bit of speed I could muster, but could barely
control the speed I got. For reference, the peak I shared for several hours
with one other guy (who was charging!) had very similar shape to
http://community.webshots.com/photo/20638082/15080766wlIFnmnIjP (which BTW
I would not call solid 2xOH), but the waves on Saturday were a couple of
feet larger. Hopefully BA can post to confirm this, I think he was
probably out, but on a different peak (the gnarliest one).
I was out on the high tide (because I am a wuss ;-), and it was already
heavy and unforgiving. I have absolutely no doubt that it got very hairy
around the very low tide in the afternoon. I left and went to a reef (not
far N) for the afternoon mid->low tide. My decision to go to another break
was based on my expectation that Black's would get well beyond my comfort
zone, and perhaps (for me) death-defying as the tide went low.
Carson's report may have been slightly exaggerated, but you definitely owe
him an apology.
I am very sorry that our actual field observations do not corroborate your
theories. Of course we will be happy to revise our observations so that
they fit your theories nicely, in order that you may publish. ;)
BTW, the Saturday afternoon session was also extremely nice, dead calm oily
glass with a very light crowd, air 75F water 57F. Super consistent 6 - 10
foot left tubes, I was absolutely the best form I have ever seen that
particular reef produce. Overall, it was among the nicest days of surf I
have enjoyed to date.
--
Dan
"I dive deep when it's ten feet overhead
grab the reef underneath my bed" - Sublime
Lemons!
> Dave, you said that Saturday the waves ranged to 4x. You must be
> shrinking dude! I was out also and do not believe I saw a wave that I
> would consider more than 2x (12' face at the peak).
How much more smaller can the guy get? I mean he's about
5' and 125 pds the last time I checked. So when it's 3-4x
to averaged sized men like me, it's 5-6x for Dave. He's a
phuckin midget. When he's done with surfing he'll have a job
in the circus. He can work his way up from shoveling elephant
shit. Maybe be the lead dwarf clown someday?
> Personally I try to stick to wetsuit sizes e.g. small, large,
> extra-large and "that big for any human being"!
When you big wave boys figure out how high the waves are
down to the decimal, and who rides the biggest, let me know.
Then maybe it's time for you to step into my world.
kdalle
"Lemons!" wrote:
> When you big wave boys figure out how high the waves are
> down to the decimal, and who rides the biggest, let me know.
>
> Then maybe it's time for you to step into my world.
What, the world of decimals? OK ".5 man". Lemons, half the man he used to
be which was never much at all.
As to the second part, I suspect its still Laird.
jeff
Dr. Style
"Timothy B. Maddux" <tbma...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in
> So, as big as I saw there I wouldn't be surprised if Ox**rd had
> double overhead (12', not whatever Blakestah needs to call it that)
> surf yesterday.
>
> --
> .-``'. Tim Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB
> .` .`~ Santa Barbara Surfing - http://www.me.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
> _.-' '._ All your wave are belong to me!
I was at SilverStrand Saturday, watched it till 11 am , it still needed
an hour or two of tide drainage before the Canyon effect would swing in
and Bring in the Southerly Component to the waves...However it started to
blow
from the NW about that time so I bailed..... It was mostly head high with
some pluses
mostly due to the Canyon not working at the time.
DaRat~
hearing anything about you coming up to san francisco and ripping on a
big day at ocean beach. in fact, i don't even think you could survive
that paddle out.
and when you can paddle out to a certain reefbreak along the san mateo
coast and not shit yourself, then we'll take your claims a little more
serious.
but you haven't done either.
instead, you make claims about your stretch of coastline when you're
not making a fool out of yourself with this whole surfgeo/jb thing.
and we're supposed to take what you say seriously?
ha!
i think not.
eric b.
---
"Carson XP" <c...@h2ozone.net> wrote in message news:<Hss08.17369$Ig2.4...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>...
Always Stoke
(DaRat~) wrote:
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Dave Blake
> hey meathead, obviously you don't know dave blake. i don't
> remember hearing anything about you coming up to san
> francisco and ripping on a big day at ocean beach. in fact, i
> don't even think you could survive that paddle out.
Can't we all just get along ?
Blacks gets pretty gnar, Ocean Beach gets pretty gnar. People
who have surfed both say... well, let's leave that topic alone.
I've taken a few core guys from Blacks out up here, and I have
my opinions, and I am shutting up.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
kdalle
Dr. Style
"Neal Miyake" <spo...@iav.com> wrote in message
news:GAc08.15233$2N5.1...@typhoon.hawaii.rr.com...
> I don't call a 12 foot face wave double-overhead out of bravado. That's
> just the way they call it here in the islands. You'd call it overhead.
> That's fine.
It should be pointed out, that a more accurate label should be DHH for
Double Head High
when there are 12 foot faces.
After All Overhead is 7,8, 9 foot faces. So DOH, should be 13 or 14 foot
faces.............
--Dont take me too seriously.
Carson XP
You proved two things that Carson postulated in here: 1) You are full of
shit with regard to wave count; and 2) You do indeed answer to the moniker
"little missy"
That will be all for now, little missy!
</SCR>
"Dave Blake" <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
news:slrna44o39...@popper.ucsf.edu...
Lemons!
His teeth are all fixed up. He got rid of his anti-surfing
psycho chick. He's calling people out on the newsgroup
and he may even be surfing!
Go gettum teeth!
"DaRat~" <surf...@hotmail.com> wrote
OBsurfr
have liked each other. That's with the OBsurfr guarantee! Carson, even
though I don't drink (much) we gotta go out and have a beer. I owe you for
not staying in touch.
OB(Carson & Dave are good guys, honest)surfrnews:MUL08.18433$Ig2.4...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com...
Dave Blake
> You proved two things that Carson postulated in here: 1) You
> are full of shit with regard to wave count...
You see, I usually do count. But then something often happens
where I snag a few in rapid succession, and geez - I start
having too much fun to count. Usually somewhere close to 10
waves.
I can always remember the best few, but the drop-and-out waves
seem to fade faster. Dunno. Saturday I got one real quick, then
nothing for almost an hour, and then it was pretty continuous
up to six, but they were all frontsides, and I was starting to
think I was having a "backside complex", then I caught a kinda
week backsider, then a full-on backsider, then is where I lose
count. I know there were more front sides and back sides, and I
took two take-home waves that were so good I decided after
pulling out to go for more, and a final large frontside wave
that was the only one that closed out on me all day (which is
unusual - to have only one). I caught two more in the shore
break just for kicks.
Count - I don't need no stinkin count. Stoke was flowing from
my veins, and that is what matters to me.
But hey, you don't need to believe me. If you have enough
hutzpah, you can surf with me next time I am in YOUR town.
Somehow you didn't come out to play the last time. And of
course I am always willing to show outsiders our more
appropriate breaks - wherever they think they would have the
best time.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
OBsurfr
> Carson XP <c...@h2ozone.net> scribed:
>
> > You proved two things that Carson postulated in here: 1) You
> > are full of shit with regard to wave count...
>
> You see, I usually do count. But then something often happens
> where I snag a few in rapid succession, and geez - I start
> having too much fun to count. Usually somewhere close to 10
> waves.
>
> I can always remember the best few, but the drop-and-out waves
> seem to fade faster. Dunno. Saturday I got one real quick, then
> nothing for almost an hour, and then it was pretty continuous
> up to six, but they were all frontsides, and I was starting to
> think I was having a "backside complex", then I caught a kinda
> week backsider, then a full-on backsider, then is where I lose
> count. I know there were more front sides and back sides, and I
> took two take-home waves that were so good I decided after
> pulling out to go for more, and a final large frontside wave
> that was the only one that closed out on me all day (which is
> unusual - to have only one). I caught two more in the shore
> break just for kicks.
>
> Count - I don't need no stinkin count. Stoke was flowing from
> my veins, and that is what matters to me.
>
> But hey, you don't need to believe me. If you have enough
> hutzpah, you can surf with me next time I am in YOUR town.
> Somehow you didn't come out to play the last time. And of
That would be my fault Dave. I got lazy and never bothered to call Carson to
make arrangements. If I had, he would have showed.
> course I am always willing to show outsiders our more
> appropriate breaks - wherever they think they would have the
> best time.
>
> --
> Dave Blake
> dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
OB(sounding more and more like Surf Ohio )surfr
Carson XP
> Carson XP <c...@h2ozone.net> scribed:
>
> > You proved two things that Carson postulated in here: 1) You
> > are full of shit with regard to wave count...
>
> You see, I usually do count. But then something often happens
> where I snag a few in rapid succession, and geez - I start
> having too much fun to count. Usually somewhere close to 10
> waves.
>
> I can always remember the best few, but the drop-and-out waves
> seem to fade faster. Dunno. Saturday I got one
<SCR>
Dude, your audience left quite a while back. In fact, the moment you
started responding so defensively as to prove your guilt. So you can tell
the truth now.
It's okay that you just paddle out to get a feel for things. Carson is
going to have his toddler doing the same thing here in a couple of months.
Perhaps you can join him if you happen to be in the neighborhood. The
little guy is always up for showing "outsiders" the appropriate breaks.
Are you really that full of yourself, little missy? Do you really believe
half of the stuff you say/write?
It's okay. They have a term for people with your condition... chronic-liar!
Now, you may get back to enjoying warm milk in your sippy cup, little missy.
</SCR>
Lemons!
me for a ride. I thought he was a genuine asshole but then he
pulled a SD palooza and it turns out he's just another yuppie
with a heavy social calender. I feel like a I took a hot chick
with a great rack to the prom and when it came time to get
the pictures, she fell down and some D cup falsies rolled
across the floor to silence...
"OBsurfr" <g.ba...@home.com> wrote
Dave Blake
>> You see, I usually do count. But then something often happens
>> where I snag a few in rapid succession, and geez - I start
>> having too much fun to count. Usually somewhere close to 10
>> waves.
>> I can always remember the best few, but the drop-and-out waves
>> seem to fade faster. Dunno. Saturday I got one
> Dude, your audience left quite a while back. In fact, the
> moment you started responding so defensively as to prove your
> guilt. So you can tell the truth now.
Ok, here is the truth. Everything I've written about my surfing
last Saturday is true.
I am tired of this spew war. If you ever find yourself in the
neighborhood, give a ring, we can surf. Maybe I'll be
privileged to see the kind of mental focus that makes Carson
what he is !
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Dave Blake
> Oh great. They are both swell guys, huh? Dave already took me
> for a ride. I thought he was a genuine asshole but then he
> pulled a SD palooza and it turns out he's just another yuppie
> with a heavy social calender.
Doncha just wanna buy a big black suburban, move down to
Californee and hook-up with all us bad-ass Cali surfers and we
could be best buddies and tell all the girls we're hard core
surfers or something...and we could all go down to BAJA and
have one of those adventures where we hook up with Mexican
OUTLAWS and surf HARD and have a campfire at night and think up
cool nicknames for each other and crush scorpions in our bare
hands and drink large bottles of Mescal with worms and maggots
in the bottom and stuff ?
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Always Stoke
> Carson XP <c...@h2ozone.net> scribed:
>
> > You proved two things that Carson postulated in here: 1) You
> > are full of shit with regard to wave count...
>
> You see, I usually do count. But then something often happens
> where I snag a few in rapid succession, and geez - I start
> having too much fun to count. Usually somewhere close to 10
> waves.
Yeah, I got me that problem too. Start having bunch of
good waves and ya just lose count. <G>
<snip>
>
> Count - I don't need no stinkin count. Stoke was flowing from
> my veins, and that is what matters to me.
<in armchair football fan scream over a touchdown>
YYEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!
> But hey, you don't need to believe me. If you have enough
> hutzpah, you can surf with me next time I am in YOUR town.
> Somehow you didn't come out to play the last time.
Hmmmm..... kinda make's ya wonder, dont it? <LOL>
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
> Oh great. They are both swell guys, huh? Dave already took
> me for a ride. I thought he was a genuine asshole but then he
> pulled a SD palooza and it turns out he's just another yuppie
> with a heavy social calender. I feel like a I took a hot chick
> with a great rack to the prom and when it came time to get
> the pictures, she fell down and some D cup falsies rolled
> across the floor to silence...
<lol> Phhhhhhhh... What about CARSON?
...ma man's making a run for ASKOTY like no other!
> "OBsurfr" <g.ba...@home.com> wrote
> > You know, if you two had met each other on Dave's visit here you guys
> would
> > have liked each other. That's with the OBsurfr guarantee! Carson, even
> > though I don't drink (much) we gotta go out and have a beer. I owe you for
> > not staying in touch.
> > OB(Carson & Dave are good guys, honest)surfr
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
<LMOL>
Dont worry Blake, we've heard ALOT and seen LITTLE
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Bill Andrews
> I'm skipping a lot of comments that I'd like to make on this thread because
> I am pretty exhausted from so much surf. AFAIC 2001 was pretty lackluster
> for surf, but it sure went out with a bang, and 2002 so far has been
> unbelievably good, and in particular the last few days have been
> incredible.
>
> Big Wave Blake <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote in
> news:slrna43kun...@popper.ucsf.edu:
>
> > Timothy B. Maddux <tbma...@alumni.caltech.edu> scribed:
> > Saturday, b/c I'd really like to know if I am giving Carson a
> > ton o shit wrongly. And if so, I will apologize. All they have
> > to do is confirm it was double overhead plus Saturday afternoon
> > AND it was death defying to surf there.
> control the speed I got. For reference, the peak I shared for several hours
> with one other guy (who was charging!) had very similar shape to
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/20638082/15080766wlIFnmnIjP (which BTW
> I would not call solid 2xOH),
Crag - even as much as I like to brag about photos of ME, I agree -
that day was what we were calling a nice solid head-high to MAYBE
8-10' faces (I'm 6'2" tall).
>but the waves on Saturday were a couple of feet larger. Hopefully BA
can post >to confirm this, I think he was probably out, but on a
different peak (the >gnarliest one).
I don't know much, if anything about buoy readings and wave
forecasting, etc.
I just go to the beach, every day, and if there is surf, I surf.
The reader's photo of Thanksgiving Day at Black's, if the caption is
correct,
>http://www.surfermag.com/pics/index.shtml?section=pics&subsection=readers&co
> ntent=readers
looks like it was taken in the morning, and if I remember correctly,
the am high tide on Thanksgiving was in the 6.5 range?
The surfer in the photo I think, is a guy that surfs there all the
time, and if it is him, he is taller than I am, probably in the 6'4"
range.
(Pretty hollow, and large wave for a 6 foot plus high tide?)
The nice thing about Thanksgiving Day was that there was a decent
interval between waves, and most of the waves were swinging in, as
they are supposed-to.
The past month or so, some of the days had low tide waves that were a
bit larger, and much more hollow, than the one in the photo.
(Black's is one of those rare beach breaks that - often, in my opinion
- gets bigger and better at low tide)
Plus, the interval has been about 50% less.
Plus, for some reason, the waves have been coming toward shore at a
much faster rate than normal.
(which is still much faster than any other place I have surfed in La
Jolla)
Plus, for some reason, some of the waves are being refracted (I think
that's the term), by the canyon, while others aren't. This has
created some serious wedging conditions, as well as weird whirlpools
and other scary stuff.
I surfed Black's last Friday and Saturday, and Friday, for me, was
pretty scary, because there was a howling offshore wind, kind of a
Santa Ana, some easy 15 plus foot faces, and lotsa competition.
My surfing performance on Friday sucked!
(an afternoon off-shore at Black's is VERY rare, but I guess it just
added to the thrill)
I went back on Saturday morning for two reasons:
1. It was high tide and maybe I would not get killed as easily.
2. I wanted to redeem myself for the way I stunk-up the place on
Friday.
Neither, worked...I still got killed, plus the surf, even at high tide
was BIGGER, and nastier than Friday, and I surfed even worse!
Thank God that Sponge is in town now.
1. The surf is flat
2. It's gonna rain.
BA
Lemons!
> <lol> Phhhhhhhh... What about CARSON?
What about Carson? Granted that comment about "death" and
15 foot faces was a little over the top but as far as wave heights
and actual surfing I don't think he has been disputed.
Did jb cast a spell on you when he visited?
What about Big Wave Blake? He told me he was an asshole. He
obviously lied about that. Maybe he's lying about other things as
well?
> ...ma man's making a run for ASKOTY like no other!
My money is on Bad Teeth.
Carson XP
Excellent appraisal, Bill.
Unfortunately you are spending precious breath on infidels. They need
either buoy readings and satellite images, or people telling them "yeah, I
saw your wave... so what!" in order for surfing to feel real for him.
Neither of them can relate to the firsthand word of those who "walk the
walk," like yourself.
Guys like dave need for things to be black and white. He needs his data to
be provided in orderly columns and rows, properly spaced in cells that allow
him to analyze, process and absorb it all over a period of time and with his
cappuccino firmly in grip. Guys like mark, on the other hand, just need for
someone (ANYONE) to acknowledge them as a legitimate surfer... even if just
to get him to SHUT UP.
Mix the two of them together and you have a frustrated, emotionally
unintelligent scientist with overwhelming needs for validation. Not a
pretty picture. But it's all you got to work with! GOOD LUCK!
</SCR>
"Bill Andrews" <bi...@alwayssports.com> wrote in message
news:f48ef0fa.02011...@posting.google.com...
Lemons!
> I am tired of this spew war.
That's too bad. I was just starting to enjoy it!
> If you ever find yourself in the
> neighborhood, give a ring, we can surf.
I can see I have lots of work to do with Dave...
Surfing together is not the answer to everything.
In fact it's the start of a big fucking problem. It's
called "crowds". Not to mention the root cause of
this newsgroup "mutual admiration society".
You wanna do something for surfing?
Surf alone.
Always Stoke
> Guys like mark, on the other hand, just need for
> someone (ANYONE) to acknowledge them as a legitimate surfer... even if just
> to get him to SHUT UP.
<LOL> Hahaa....
.....still pissed I shred you and I'm from NEW JERSEY!!!!!!
<chuckle>
> Mix the two of them together and you have a frustrated, emotionally
> unintelligent scientist with overwhelming needs for validation. Not a
> pretty picture. But it's all you got to work with! GOOD LUCK!
ASKOTY Nominated and compiled collectively from
members of Team Panamasolas;
Carson [including the beginning of 02' where he's coming on strong]
Some notes from the field;
- Somehow he managed to 'flame it up' with just about
every other ASer at one point or another throughout
the year like the"different" puppy of the litter.
- Boasted LJ,SD mastery and was hence called out by BA.
[and hey, aint he a 'transplant'? From Texas and EC
maybe? somebody refresh my memory <AHEM>]
- He sure seems ashamed of his Texas roots!
- Boasted "annihilation" in said arena, much to everyone's dubiety.
- Not one legit pic of his escapades in Laahoyaa. ... at B L A C K ' S
- Constantly blurts out to anyone that will listen that they
have the most polluted beach, when in fact, his small capacity
mind can't grasp that he lives along the coast with some
of the most polluted beaches in the entire USA.
- Reigning champ of the best submitted stinkbug surf picture.
No competition in sight. http://eunion.com/tbone/stink/stink.html
<holding my nose> ...the nerve of some of you for comparing
that to mine.
- Least likely to meet up with another ASer ...on purpose.
Your name hasnt even made it on this yet:
http://alt-surfing.org/altsurfing/as_points/
...even "Wilbur Kookmyer" has 3 points! <lol>
- Michael Sullivan wrote:
S
U
L===> -
L .
Y .
.
.
\ . /
CARSON
That's me pissing on you.
Now go towel off somewhere else, you got piss all
over you. ~ Mike [ ...WOW! AS' first golden shower. ]
- Got called out hard and trolled even harder for not having met
any ASers in San Diego so he chomped down the stale bait and
promptly rushed out and met two Asers. The resulting image of
the AS get together and the first glimpse of carson in alt.surfing
revealed a fully trolled diminutive dwarf like figure standing
next to fellow Asers. <chuckle>
- Pumps his chest on alt.surfing in an exchange with BA, and
then accidently runs into BA and quckly returns to alt.surfing
eating crow and gushing all over the guy.
- meets 2 AS'ers (no names) and takes them to a heavy break
that even he couldn't handle, and gets caught inside for 1/2 hour
to boot, all in an attempt to show off that backfired
- supposedly chickened out of an Indo boat trip because he was
afraid he would get seasick!
- he is THE epitome of a suburban socal yuppie surfer
- always in an agitated bitter mood with no stoke for surfing.
- brought his young sons name into his flame wars
- His reason given for not going on surf excursion with other ASers
is because he says he doesn't like to be, "surround by too many men."
- constantly claims to be the big baja traveler yet
never talks about recent persoanl experience down there
other than spots north of Ensenada (little San Diego).
- talks a big wave Baja game yet has never been to Todos Santos
which is just across the border from him in Baja. Must be the boat
ride thing and getting seasick.
- thinks Blacks is on the same scale as Mavericks.
- still thinks there is such a thing as a "secret spot" in SoCal.
- Close to coining a new word called Friendaphobic
- Oh ohoh... let's conclude with Sunday's fresh catch:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+ocean+OR+beach+group:alt.surfing+author:dave+author:
blake&hl=en&as_qdr=d&selm=slrna42a8c.trj.dblake%40popper.ucsf.edu&rnum=1
.........<same shiver as the piss shiver > Oooofffff...... <LOL>
...put the Dunce cap on there lil buddy, don't worry, we wont laugh!
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| < |
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CARSON
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
OBsurfr
after how many years? :) :)
"Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eastcoastcharger-38...@news.bellatlantic.net...
Lemons!
"The Supreme Court" <gam...@aol.com> wrote > Let me set this record
straight:
>
> We went to a break somewhere in the LJ reefs. It was not heavy. Listen
real
> close: It was not heavy. It did, however, break top to bottom. One guy
that was
> with us can't surf top to bottom waves because he has a stainless steel
knee
> (i.e. a prosthesis). That guy went in. We stayed out and then went in
later.
>
> It's funny how this story has been taken and twisted. If anyone else has
any
> questions about that day, go ahead and ask because I was there.
>
> I did not see Carson get "caught inside." But if you don't get caught
inside
> once in a while then you are not surfing big enough waves.
Carson XP
"Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eastcoastcharger-38...@news.bellatlantic.net...
>
> > Guys like mark, on the other hand, just need for
> > someone (ANYONE) to acknowledge them as a legitimate surfer... even if
just
> > to get him to SHUT UP.
The truth really hurts you more than Carson ever imagined. This is clearly
evidenced by your volumonous diatribe.
</SCR>
>
> <LOL> Hahaa....
> .....still pissed I shred you and I'm from NEW JERSEY!!!!!!
> <chuckle>
<SCR>
God, don't you wish this was true, mark. Unfortunately, neither just saying
it nor clicking your heels is going to make it so. But you get a 'B' for
imagination!
</SCR>
Always Stoke
> "Carson XP" wrote:
>
> > Guys like mark, on the other hand, just need for
> > someone (ANYONE) to acknowledge them as a legitimate surfer... even if
> > just
> > to get him to SHUT UP.
>
> <LOL> Hahaa....
> .....still pissed I shred you and I'm from NEW JERSEY!!!!!!
> <chuckle>
I'm wondering how many people realize that was
all in the name of sarcastic fun without seeing SMILIES? <G>
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
Supreme Court) wrote:
> >From: Always Stoke eastcoas...@hotmail.com
>
> >- meets 2 AS'ers (no names) and takes them to a heavy break
> > that even he couldn't handle, and gets caught inside for 1/2 hour
> > to boot, all in an attempt to show off that backfired
>
> Let me set this record straight:
>
> We went to a break somewhere in the LJ reefs. It was not heavy. Listen real
> close: It was not heavy. It did, however, break top to bottom. One guy that
> was
> with us can't surf top to bottom waves because he has a stainless steel
> knee
> (i.e. a prosthesis). That guy went in. We stayed out and then went in
> later.
>
> It's funny how this story has been taken and twisted. If anyone else has
> any
> questions about that day, go ahead and ask because I was there.
>
> I did not see Carson get "caught inside." But if you don't get caught
> inside
> once in a while then you are not surfing big enough waves.
OK, so we'll take that one back.
For the record:
" ASKOTY Nominated and compiled collectively from
members of Team Panamasolas; "
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
<g.ba...@home.com> wrote:
> I nominate Mark for managing to get "Panamasolas" in a thread one more time
> after how many years? :) :)
NO, you nominate me cause you're Carson's friend.
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Dave Blake
-Dblake
Always Stoke <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> scribed:
> ASKOTY Nominated and compiled collectively from
> members of Team Panamasolas;
You missed:
Posting excerpts and URLs from private email
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4040808259d&hl=en&
selm=SDWE7.2280%24Sx.531615%40news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com
And the overwhelming sense of what is Carson on the newsgroup:
A person who feels the need to assert superiority over others
despite his lack of knowledge about them.
*************************
About my Baja experience:"You would never make it going deep in
Baja where rules get lost in the wind and sands."
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=
uE3W7.105370%24Sx.28070328%40news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com
[note: I've logged 32 travel days in Baja, driven the length of
the Peninsula, weathered hurricanes, and posted about some of it
already well before his post - making Carson ignorant as well
as wrong]
*************************
On the topic of MY surf ability, of which Carson has NO first
hand experience: "You do not possess the presence on [sic] mind
necessary to surf in and around SD without getting your whinny
little ass kicked by the locals here. You wouldn't last a
minute out at Blacks. "
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=dblake+blacks+
group:alt.surfing+author:cu%40h2ozone.net&hl=en&
selm=oo5B7.67%24yV.83417%40news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com&rnum=1
Note also that Carson did not offer any contact information for
himself for my trip to San Diego. Apparently although he is
certain in his superiority over me, he is unwilling to actually
surf with me. OBsurfr says he was supposed to contact Carson,
but the other San Diegans had no problems meeting and surfing
with me. Even so, I logged a few solo sessions in the week and
had a dern fun time with San Diegan ASers despite (or perhaps
BECAUSE of) the lack of Carson. Swell ranged to overhead on my
last day, too, so lack of swell was not an issue.
Then Carson comes back with this
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=dblake+
group:alt.surfing+author:cu%40h2ozone.net&hl=en&
selm=gsFK7.19214%24Sx.6333818%40news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com&rnum=6
which somehow insinuates he WOULD have surfed with me on a trip
to San Diego.
***********
Not to mention the endless sniping between jb, surfGEO, and
Carson. The Draken Fowler profile was my favorite - when Carson
went anonymous to continue the flamage (note also his
condemnation of Jersey water quality, when his own backyard is
MUCH worse)
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=fat+bastard+seal+
group:alt.surfing&hl=en&selm=9l29eb%24er2%241%40gondor.sdsu.edu&rnum=1
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:draken_fowler%40msn.com+
group:alt.surfing&hl=en&selm=9kaj5r%24t0q%241%40gondor.sdsu.edu&rnum=4
As Draken Fowler, he asserted that he was
"Mad Max of AS"
"wave hunter and slayer"
"poser basher extraordinaire"
********************
We shouldn't forget the cirrus profile (wav...@trestles.net)
either
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:wavehog%40trestles.net+
group:alt.surfing&start=10&hl=en&selm=Ow6k7.81375%24MC1.26825775%40
news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com&rnum=12
*******************
More hypocrisy
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=carson+blacks+
group:alt.surfing&hl=en&selm=89d3dg%24cc%241%40gondor.sdsu.edu&rnum=1
"No matter how you slice it, Blacks is one hell of a world
class wave..."
"Board: 6'8" Rusty Tri-Fin w/squash tail"
"We surfed from about 8:30am until 10:30am an [sic] picked off
about 12 waves a piece."
Then, later, he claimed
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl971581846d&hl=en&
selm=Hss08.17369%24Ig2.4152847%40news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com&rnum=23
"When good surfers catch waves, they can count them... because
they catch waves that count. They will tell you each and every
delectable wave they had. If someone cannot, and instead they
give you a range, then they are lying. How do you explain that,
little missy?"
*********************
On the topic of his OWN ability
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2146961474d&hl=en&
selm=Ud808.14818%24Ig2.3555957%40news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com
"In his 1.5 hour afternoon session in 2XOH+ super consiistent
[sic] conditions he managed a 7 wave count session in pretty hefty
conditions.
Undoubtedly, B****s was significantly bigger than most spots.
But it was probably somewhat (if not fully) death defying. "
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:alt.surfing+
author:cu%40h2ozone.net&hl=en&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&
as_minm=11&as_miny=2001&as_maxd=16&as_maxm=12&
as_maxy=2001&selm=SEDM7.26456%24Sx.8501287%40news1.
elcjn1.sdca.home.com&rnum=4
"Carson just came off of a week of surfing the local reefs.
Caught some incredible deep water surf at a spot named S_ _ _
_s in LJ. It was one f_ _ _ _ ing blast of a time. There were
no sissy portions (nor sissies) around there! "
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=rUaZ7.25507%24NC1.6834070%40
news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com&output=gplain
"The likely reason there were no other takers is due to the
shear heaviness of this spot. Both the entry and exit can be
(and many times are) life threatening. "
"The visual effect of these waves as seen out in the line up is
to give the appearance of the whole ocean folding over on you.
When you hook into one of these beasts it's like you are riding
the whole ocean. "
Again, the buoys were peaking out around 5 ft, 14sec. Jan 3,
2002. (Torrey Pines Inner, Outer, and Pt La Jolla buoy showed
ALMOST 6 feet) I guess in La Jolla that must be 20 foot
Hawaiian to make the whole ocean fold over on you !!! In Carson
speak. He is a LEGEND in his own mind.
I second the nomination for ASKOTY.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Dave Blake
> >From: Always Stoke eastcoas...@hotmail.com
> >- meets 2 AS'ers (no names) and takes them to a heavy break
> > that even he couldn't handle, and gets caught inside for 1/2 hour
> > to boot, all in an attempt to show off that backfired
>
>
> We went to a break somewhere in the LJ reefs.
Always Stoke was referring to another ASers encounter, not
yours.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Timothy B. Maddux
Lemons! <lem...@juice.com> wrote:
>Surfing together is not the answer to everything.
>In fact it's the start of a big fucking problem. It's
>called "crowds".
Surfing with a group of your friends is
not surfing in a "crowd."
--
.-``'. Tim Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB
.` .`~ http://www.me.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
_.-' '._ "From the essence of pure stoke springs all creation."
The Supreme Court
>Always Stoke was referring to another ASers encounter, not
>yours.
Nope. He was referring to mine. See futher on the thread.
Gamivia Duke, Esq.
"I am unaware of any such activities or operations. Nor
would I be disposed to discuss such an operation if it
did, in fact, exist."
Always Stoke
> "Always Stoke"
> > "Carson XP" wrote:
> >
> > > Guys like mark, on the other hand, just need for
> > > someone (ANYONE) to acknowledge them as a legitimate surfer... even if
> just
> > > to get him to SHUT UP.
> <SCR>
> The truth really hurts you more than Carson ever imagined. This is clearly
> evidenced by your volumonous diatribe.
> </SCR>
<LOL> Carson, ready? I get free surfboards for NOT kooking out.
And contribute this for the NG to boot: http://altsurfing.org
YOU on the other hand are TIED with WILBUR KOOKMYER
for AS points! <lol.....>
Truth:
Diffrence between you and I; I *can* back up my claims if need be.
You know this, no? I *do* know that it's not about competition though.
Contrary to popular belief, I make a serious effort to refrain
from having to pimp pix of myself [I remember being taunted about
it before in here], and my relation to the surfing community AND industry
where I live. I can back this up. There's ALOT about me you dont know.
But in a short time, I've learned something about you. ;-/
Truth:
I KNOOOW that it's not about competition! I am not
*trying* to compete. It's just about being called out on credibility.
And as far as this statement goes:
"This is clearly evidenced by your volumonous diatribe."
.... Refer to Newton's 3rd Law
> > <LOL> Hahaa....
> > .....still pissed I shred you and I'm from NEW JERSEY!!!!!!
> > <chuckle>
> <SCR>
> God, don't you wish this was true, mark.
> Unfortunately, neither just saying
> it nor clicking your heels is going to make it so. But you get a 'B' for
> imagination!
> </SCR>
<LMOL> Hahaa... You're kidding right?
"Imagine" this;
http://www.artopiaproductions.com/marksecretspot/mysurfpage/bluecollar.html
Carson: Just because you LIVE in San Diego, California does not
*automatically* validate you as the shredder you *think* you are.
Always Stoke
> "Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > <lol> Phhhhhhhh... What about CARSON?
>
> What about Carson? Granted that comment about "death" and
> 15 foot faces was a little over the top but as far as wave heights
> and actual surfing I don't think he has been disputed.
Hmmmmm.... we can all speculate right? <G>
> Did jb cast a spell on you when he visited?
<lol> No effect. I'm still me.
> What about Big Wave Blake? He told me he was an asshole. He
> obviously lied about that. Maybe he's lying about other things as
> well?
I really cant assume anything yet with him. Not as drastic
as this 'Carson thing'.
> > ...ma man's making a run for ASKOTY like no other!
>
> My money is on Bad Teeth.
<lol> I bet a few heads will be voting BK
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
Thank you. I and like I said, I write compile that entire list. <G>
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
The Supreme Court
>> Always Stoke was referring to another ASers encounter, not
>> yours.
>
>
> Thank you. I and like I said, I write compile that entire list. <G>
If that is the case and If you were not talking about my AS encounter then why
would you have taken it back a few posts ago? Why didn't you say, "Duke, that
was not your encounter I was talking about. That was another encounter"?
Foon
>> <LOL> Hahaa....
>> .....still pissed I shred you and I'm from NEW JERSEY!!!!!!
>> <chuckle>
>
> I'm wondering how many people realize that was
> all in the name of sarcastic fun without seeing SMILIES? <G>
Nope, got by me. When I think sarcastic fun, your name doesn't
come in the top 3. But you "are" vying for smiley king award :0 And a
nomination for ASKOTY just for slipping in the word "Panamasolas"
is damned admirable. Makes me want to strike up a new thread on
the Guidopalooza :) or GP2K1 or.......
Hey Rod's due back today, he's been killin it in PR!!
-Foon (Diggin Ferg's travel journal of his trip to OB. DEE DEE,
YOU GONNA LET THE FERGSTER BEAT YOU TO THE PUNCH!!??)
Always Stoke
Supreme Court) wrote:
> >From: Dave Blake dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu
>
> >Always Stoke was referring to another ASers encounter, not
> >yours.
>
> Nope. He was referring to mine. See futher on the thread.
Note to everyone: There has been a misunderstanding with this.
There is no problem. We've settled it.
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Dave Blake
>
> >Always Stoke was referring to another ASers encounter, not
> >yours.
>
> Nope. He was referring to mine. See futher on the thread.
I coulda sworn he was referring to
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1311247491d&hl=en&
selm=38893d01.5979116%40news.swbell.net
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Timothy B. Maddux
Foon <fo...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>... a nomination for ASKOTY just for slipping in the word "Panamasolas"...
Actually m@rk could be nominated for that for *next year,*
along with his too-many other posts in this thread. For
example, he just reposted the stinkbug sequence again.
But we'll have to try to remember them come 2003. It's important
we get our timeline right, otherwise I'd have to re-nominate
Clay/Kira/Eric for the tatoo that we just talked about again,
though it's not a 2001 thing, right?
Oh wait, here it is:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=t5vklh3jcspc54%40corp.supernews.com
So when do we get to vote?
--
.-``'. Tim Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB
.` .`~ Santa Barbara Surfing - http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
_.-' '._ "The waves, as always, hold the more insidious addiction."
OBsurfr
mountain man
.....[snip all content relating to the US Civil War]....
> But if you don't get caught inside once in a while then
> you are not surfing big enough waves.
AND/OR
you are not savvy/watchful enough with the wayward
waves and sets in which you are already immersed.
Are you another who has no belief in "The Seventh Set"
being larger than the others? Urban myth material??
OBsurfr
"Timothy B. Maddux" <tbma...@nylon.engr.ucsb.edu> wrote in message
snipped to here;
> Surfing with a group of your friends is
> not surfing in a "crowd."
friends, 5 cousins, 5 grandmothers it doesn't matter, they still constitute
a crowd.
When a group paddles out together they tend to try and dominate the lineup
due to strength in numbers.
OB(had more than a few "interactions" with groups of "friends")surfr
jb
wrote:
>I second the nomination.
>
>-Dblake
>
>Always Stoke <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> scribed:
>
>> ASKOTY Nominated and compiled collectively from
>> members of Team Panamasolas;
>
>
>You missed:
>
>Posting excerpts and URLs from private email
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4040808259d&hl=en&
>selm=SDWE7.2280%24Sx.531615%40news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com
>
That post gets carson "asshole of the year" award. Posting
private emails in a public forum is pure chicken shit.
carson, enjoy your day, your year, your award, you earned it,
baby. You cut in line to grab the big AS banana. It looks good
on you.
-jb (200lbs)
Lemons!
I said it was the start of a problem.
You and 3 of your best friends are calling each other on
your cell phones and planning to meet at spot X...
BUT! Guess whats happenin at the SAME TIME?
Surfer Bob and is calling 4 of his best friends and guess where
they are heading? SPOT X!
and...
Surfer Dave is calling 3 of his best friends and guess where they are
gonna surf? SPOT X!
You can figure it out from there...
"Timothy B. Maddux" <tbma...@nylon.engr.ucsb.edu> wrote
Always Stoke
> I second the nomination.
>
> -Dblake
>
> Always Stoke <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> scribed:
>
> > ASKOTY Nominated and compiled collectively from
> > members of Team Panamasolas;
>
>
> You missed:
lol Wow, like bringing in a net full of clams.
--
.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Carson XP
You get the idea that you would have nothing to write about if it weren't
for Carson. It is amazing how you have been consumed by all of this. You
are just a little puppet, in a little side show... and Carson is your puppet
master. YEAH, BABY!
</SCR>
"Dave Blake" <dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
news:slrna4bfb1...@popper.ucsf.edu...
Always Stoke
> M@rk said:
>
> >> <LOL> Hahaa....
> >> .....still pissed I shred you and I'm from NEW JERSEY!!!!!!
> >> <chuckle>
> >
> > I'm wondering how many people realize that was
> > all in the name of sarcastic fun without seeing SMILIES? <G>
>
> Nope, got by me. When I think sarcastic fun, your name doesn't
> come in the top 3.
Yeah, I s'pose those two words dont mix well.
> But you "are" vying for smiley king award :0
I can think of alot worse things to be guilty of.
> And a nomination for ASKOTY just for slipping in the word "Panamasolas"
> is damned admirable. Makes me want to strike up a new thread on
> the Guidopalooza :) or GP2K1 or.......
?
I must have missed a topical discussion one day about
how it is taboo and uncalled for it is to mention the name of
a gathering or event later on down the road.
Since when did this nonsense all start??
I didnt know the P****a was never to be mentioned again.
Where was MY notification duuudes?
Foon, you flap about Guidopalooza plenty my friend.
---------> < S M I L E Y >
> Hey Rod's due back today, he's been killin it in PR!!
HAD to of been. My good friend Jack Ryan is there for 2 weeks right now.
They've been getting slammed with good swell for weeks.
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.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Carson XP
People like dave and mark spend so much time trying to build themselves up
that they mistake people laughing at them for people laughing with them.
They actually believe their own bs. That blindness in and of itself
deserves the ASKOTY award.
On the other hand, jb is a possible runner up due merely to the fact that he
has suffered over exposure as a Kook and a liar. He no longer even claims
to surf, nor does he even write about surfing. He is just a washed up old
wannabee.
Congratulations, little missies!
</SCR>
"Carson XP" <c...@h2ozone.net> wrote in message
news:MHt18.22699$Ig2.6...@news1.elcjn1.sdca.home.com...
Always Stoke
> In article <a24jn...@drn.newsguy.com>,
> Foon <fo...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >... a nomination for ASKOTY just for slipping in the word "Panamasolas"...
>
> Actually m@rk could be nominated for that for *next year,*
> along with his too-many other posts in this thread. For
> example, he just reposted the stinkbug sequence again.
Damn right. lol
<ahem>
http://www.blakestah.com/surf/tmp/015_12.jpg
> But we'll have to try to remember them come 2003. It's important
> we get our timeline right, otherwise I'd have to re-nominate
> Clay/Kira/Eric for the tatoo that we just talked about again,
> though it's not a 2001 thing, right?
>
> Oh wait, here it is:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=t5vklh3jcspc54%40corp.supernews.com
>
> So when do we get to vote?
I dunno, but me votin finger's gettin twitchy.
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.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
Always Stoke
> <SCR>
> You get the idea that you would have nothing to write about if it weren't
> for Carson. It is amazing how you have been consumed by all of this. You
> are just a little puppet, in a little side show... and Carson is your puppet
> master. YEAH, BABY!
> </SCR>
Hey my leetle friend check out dis:
m@rk
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/ \ |
/ \ |
/ \_\_/
/ \
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/ \
/ \
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/ A S K O T Y \
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/ \
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| < |
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CARSON
....... LMOL!
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.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Lemons!
Hey jb, I was laughing so hard I forgot to save
those pics of you in euro. Where did you hide
them? LOL!
"the get jb help fund!"
"jb" <j...@swbeli.net.invalid> wrote
Always Stoke
> <SCR>
> People like dave and mark spend so much time trying to build themselves up
> that they mistake people laughing at them for people laughing with them.
> They actually believe their own bs. That blindness in and of itself
> deserves the ASKOTY award.
<m@rk>
Whuddyuh mean *TRY* to build myself up? <LOL>
I was "built up" before I ever set foot in this NG!
You didnt visit my BlueCollar page didjya? I knew it!
</m@rk>
> On the other hand, jb is a possible runner up due merely to the fact that he
> has suffered over exposure as a Kook and a liar. He no longer even claims
> to surf, nor does he even write about surfing. He is just a washed up old
> wannabee.
>
> Congratulations, little missies!
> </SCR>
<m@rk>
<LOL> On what? Calling you out with the facts?
Oh, in that case, YOU'RE WELCOME!
</m@rk>
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.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Lemons!
on this newsgroup...
"Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote
Lemons!
when I retire from this newsgroup. 2 funny.
"Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote
Lemons!
newsgroup. Listen jb, you little fuck, let me manage your AS
profile and we'll make a come back! You can drop 30 pds,
learn to surf and I'll slowly build you back up to what you
once were...
Whatayasay?
"Carson XP" <c...@h2ozone.net> wrote
Dave Blake
> <SCR>
> People like dave and mark spend so much time trying to build themselves up
> that they mistake people laughing at them for people laughing with them.
> They actually believe their own bs. That blindness in and of itself
> deserves the ASKOTY award.
I may not have loaded up a strong enough test line for this 178
pound short bald popeye-forearmed MTB wannabe kookfish. He just
responded twice, unsolicited, to my post. ROTFL - extra points
for me !!!!!!!!!!!
Let me know if you ever decide to surf something requiring more
than your longest board - a 7'4". I may decide to join you.
<G>
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
jb
Watch this folks, it's like sprinkling salt on two banana slugs.
I'll be in central america for the month of april, both of you
are welcome to join me. I await your eager email.
-jb
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:44:48 -0800, "Lemons!" <lem...@juice.com>
wrote:
jb
wrote:
>Bwahahahah! That was the post of the year!
>
>Hey jb, I was laughing so hard I forgot to save
>those pics of you in euro. Where did you hide
>them? LOL!
>
Lembo, if I ever log on to IM again, please refrain from begging
me for a job. It's embarrassing.
Always Stoke
> Don't make me do it... You know how I hate to slam people
> on this newsgroup...
<lol> It just breaaaks your heart, dont it?
So, will we have an actual vote page or email to
send to for someone to tally? I dont trust ANYONE
tallying the votes themselves. Inflation and scandal is inevitable
> "Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > I dunno, but me votin finger's gettin twitchy.
>
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.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Always Stoke
> LOL! Hey I think you guys are gonna do just fine
> when I retire from this newsgroup. 2 funny.
lol We're all trying to make you proud!
> "Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > Hey my leetle friend check out dis:
> >
> > m@rk
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > O
> > |
> > |
> > __ |
> > / \ |
> > / \ |
> > / \ |
> > / \_\_/
> > / \
> > / \
> > / \
> > / \
> > / \
> > / A S K O T Y \
> > ===========
> > / \
> > | |
> > | X X |
> > | < |
> > \ /
> > \ _______ /
> > \ /
> > -------------
> >
> > CARSON
>
>
>
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.....m@rk ....just, m@rk
Lemons!
are getting longer than ever. Good job. I guess you have to do something
when you can't live by the ocean.
"jb" <j...@swbeli.net.invalid> wrote
Lemons!
when you have enough nutz to venture out on your own instead
beeing a little worker bee in your cube, you might understand.
In the interim, here's something you can understand...
"A house by the ocean and time to surf whenever there is swell."
Now get back to work lil white sambo!
"jb" <j...@swbeli.net.invalid> wrote