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Nathan SZILARD

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Archive-name: alt-sex/seduction/fast
Posting-Frequency: monthly
URL: http://new.metabork.fr.eu.org/asf-faq.html
Maintainer: Nathan SZILARD <nat...@metabork.fr.eu.org>

0. Admnistrivia
0.0 Version
0.1 Where can I find the latest version of this document?
0.2 Purpose of this document
0.3 Some information is missing in this document
0.4 Credit

1. The group
1.1 What is alt.seduction.fast?
1.2 What is appropriate content for alt.seduction.fast?
1.3 What's this mess?

2. Acronyms and jargon
2.1 PUA
2.2 AFC
2.3 HB
2.4 Kino
2.5 LJBF
2.6 Nanpa
2.7 NLP
2.8 Pivot / Pawn
2.9 Sarging
2.10 SS

3. Other resources
3.1 Maniac's page
3.2 Formhandle's page with searchable archive
3.3 Nathan's page
3.4 What is The Lounge?
3.5 Speed Seduction
3.6 Anton's page

4. Common questions

5. Recommended readings



-=-




0. Admnistrivia

0.0 Version

$Id: faq.txt,v 1.3 1999/12/13 17:33:10 nathan Exp nathan $

0.1 Where can I find the latest version of this document?

<URL:http://new.metabork.fr.eu.org/asf-faq.html>

0.2 Purpose of this document

To answer common questions and help set the focus of the group
as it has evolved over its existence, according to the group's
regular posters.

0.3 Some information is missing in this document

This document is a work in progress.

Contact me, <nat...@metabork.fr.eu.org>, if you believe some
important information is missing.

0.4 Credits

<mania...@deja.com>
<Formh...@aol.com>

1. The group

1.1 What is alt.seduction.fast?

A group for discussing how to pick up women, fast; as opposed to
discussing marriage theory.

1.2 What is appropriate content for alt.seduction.fast?

Anything related to seducing women. What is NOT appropriate are
flames, as most regulars have agreed.

1.3 What's this mess?

If you have low tolerance for spam and flames, you might to
configure your killfile to avoid the common annoyances.

2. Acronyms and jargon

(From Maniac's page)

2.1 PUA

Pick Up Artist

2.2 AFC

"Average Frustrated Chump" (ie. a guy who is not a pickup
artist, and doesn't get laid very often). Often called a
"nice guy" which is really the same as an AFC.

2.3 HB

"Hot Babe"

2.4 Kino

Physical contact; ie. kissing, touching, squeezing her ass,
hugging, holding hands, rubbing her tits, ..etc..etc

2.5 LJBF

"Lets Just Be Friends". A very typical blowout that a chick
does to a guy when he wants to be his girlfriend but
she rejects it. Usually happens to AFC's who don't know
how to do a proper pickup and seduction."

2.6 Nanpa

A term for going out to hunt chicks (originates from Japan,
where they make videos of how to do this...)

2.7 NLP

"Neuro Linguistic Programming". A psychology term originated
by two psychologists in the 1970s (Bandler and Grinder) in the
book "Trance-formations ISBN 0-911226-23-0". Briefly, NLP is a
way to subconsciously put people into trance or encourage them to do
things that you want them to do (ie. quit smoking, eat less, let you
fuck them..etc).

2.8 Pivot / Pawn

A chick that you take to a bar to in order to pick up
other chicks. Use chicks who won't lay you but still
want to see you, for this purpose. Basically, this works
because most chicks will find you more attractive and
get jealous when you are already with a chick than when
you are not.

2.9 Sarging

Ross Jeffries term for hunting chicks. Means the same thing
as "Nanpa" above. Apparently, "Sarge" is the name of Ross's
Cat.

2.10 SS

"Speed Seduction". A term for application of NLP Patterns and theory
used by Ross Jeffries for a course he sells over the internet on
picking up chicks and fucking them. See his site at
<URL:http://www.seduction.com> for more info on SS.

3. Other resources

3.1 Maniac's page

http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~maniac/

With more links to other pages of interest.

3.2 Formhandle's page with searchable archive

http://asf.hyperpost.com

Also includes a web board which is a great resource.

3.3 Nathan's page

http://metabork.fr.eu.org/~nathan/

Next version will show up at:

http://new.metabork.fr.eu.org/

... soon hopefully.

3.4 What is The Lounge?

The Lounge is a password protected, restricted part of Nathan's site
where selected members can post their own pick-up photos and view
others'. The site is restricted to respect people's privacy.

Access is granted to regular posters, and for security reasons
new members are added sparingly. Contact Nathan if you wish
to get a password, that will also open up Maniac's private
page.

3.5 Speed Seduction

http://www.seduction.com/

The free newsletter, although they might sound like informecials,
are a must read.

3.6 Anton's page

Anton has done a great job of compiling significant posts. Check it
out at:

http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/

4. Common questions

This section will be filled later.

5. Recommended readings

This section will be filled later.

--
Before either asking me seduction question, or posting them to
the group, be sure to check the following GREAT websites:
<URL:http://www.pickupguide.com/> -- non commercial
<URL:http://www.fastseduction.com/> -- non commercial
<URL:http://www.ut.ee/~anton/layguide/> -- non commercial
<URL:http://www.seduction.com/> -- commercial

Nathan SZILARD

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Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
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I got the approval from the *.answers maintainer for this to
be posted. Therefore this is the official FAQ :)

It will be merged quickly with Formhandle's, and hopefully with
all the relevant addition any of you might want to contribute.

Your help appreciated in making this FAQ a useful tool for
everyone. As opposed to, a marketing tool for someone.

What's needed:

- a book list

To help do this, please provide all relevant info (ISBN,
publisher, etc ...)

- other site addresses, with critics

Specifically, why some sites are 'bad'.

Comments?


I mean, positive comments only please. To those (I shall'nt name
anybody here) who are tempted to flame me back, please note that
you 1- are most likely to be in my killfile anyway, 2- haven't
done your homework to get any other faq posted first in the
official places.

'nuff said.

On 14 Dec 1999 15:27:37 GMT, Nathan SZILARD

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Iceman

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Nathan SZILARD wrote:

> What's needed:
>
> - a book list
>
> To help do this, please provide all relevant info (ISBN,
> publisher, etc ...)

"Secrets of sexual body language", Martin Lloyd-Elliott, Ulysses Press
ISBN 1-56975-060-2, $17.95

"You just don't understand, Women and Men in Conversation", Deborah
Tannen Ph.D., Ballantine Books New York, ISBN 0-345-37205-0, $14.00

"Miteinander reden, 1-3, Differenzielle Psychologie der Kommunikation",
Friedemann Schulz von Thun, RoRoRo, ISBN (1) ???, (2) 3-499-18496-6,
(3) 3-499-60545-7, DEM 14.90-16.90 (These books are in German)

--
Iceman


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