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Daniel P. B. Smith

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Nov 2, 2003, 8:30:57 PM11/2/03
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Recently, an AQ member correctly fingered an alleged Bible verse as
inauthentic, commenting that it "did not ring true."

Here are eight passages. Three are from the Bible; five are not.
Can you identify which are from the Bible, and identify the sources of
the non-Biblical passages? I'm expecting that AQ'ers will make fairly
short work of this, but will post any needed answers in a few days.

1) And he also prophesieth evil concerning thy life, and saith that thy
life shall be as a garment in a furnace of fire.

And again, he saith that thou shalt be as a stalk, even as a dry
stalk of the field, which is run over by the beasts and trodden
under foot.

And again, he saith thou shalt be as the blossoms of a thistle,
which, when it is fully ripe, if the wind bloweth, it is driven
forth upon the face of the land. And he pretendeth the Lord hath
spoken it. And he saith all this shall come upon thee except thou
repent, and this because of thine iniquities.

2) Forasmuch as it hath pleased Almighty God, in his wise providence,
to take out of this world the soul of our deceased brother, we
therefore commit his body to the ground; earth to earth, ashes to
ashes, dust to dust; looking for the general Resurrection in the
last day, and the life of the world to come, through our Lord Jesus
Christ; at whose second coming in glorious majesty to judge the
world, the earth and the sea shall give up their dead; and the
corruptible bodies of those who sleep in him shall be changed, and
made like unto his own glorious body; according to the mighty
working whereby he is able to subdue all things unto himself.

3) Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote in the camp of the
Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they
arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.

4) These are they who purchase this present life at the price of that
which is to come: their torment shall not be lightened, neither
shall they be helped.

Moreover, to Moses gave we "the Book," and we raised up apostles
after him; and to Jesus, son of Mary, gave we clear proofs of his
mission, and strengthened him by the Holy Spirit. So oft then as
an apostle cometh to you with that which your souls desire not,
swell ye with pride, and treat some as impostors, and slay others?

And they say, "Uncircumcised are our hearts." Nay! God hath cursed
them in their infidelity: few are they who believe!

5) The Spirits of the Living God move perpetually with the glory of the
wonderful Chariot. The small voice of blessing accompanies the
tumult as they depart, and on the path of their return they worship
the Holy One, Ascending they rise marvelously; settling, they stay
still. The sound of joyful praise is silenced and there is a small
voice of blessing in all the camp of God.

And a voice of praise resounds from the midsts of all their
divisions in worship. And each one in his place, all their numbered
ones sing hymns of praise.

6) But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master,
and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men
which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink
their own piss with you?

7) Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When a man
shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the Lord by thy
estimation.

And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even
unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of
silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.

And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.

And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy
estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female
ten shekels.

8) As the work of the husbandman is the ploughshare; and the work of
the steersman is the guidance of the ship;

so also my work is the Psalm of the Lord: my craft and my occupation
are in HIs praises:

Because His love hath nourished my heart, and even to my lips His
fruits He poured out.

For my love is the Lord, and tehrefore I will sing unto him:

For I am made strong in His praise, and I have faith in Him.

--
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Sample chapter at http://world.std.com/~dpbsmith/messy.html
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David McKay

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Nov 3, 2003, 5:45:04 AM11/3/03
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3, 6 and 7 are genuine

David McKay
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QUEEN BEE

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Nov 3, 2003, 6:37:47 AM11/3/03
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That's a pity -never mind... another time perhaps.
I was only thinking of you today and wondered where you had
gotten to!
I thought you were dead, see - and found myself koran my eyes out! I
was going to suggest you were ode a solomon funeral service where more
men could show they hadn't forgotten books you shared with us!
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Graham J Weeks

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Nov 3, 2003, 5:43:23 PM11/3/03
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Answers off the top of my head with no research.

Book of Common Prayer

>
>
> 3) Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote in the camp of the
> Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they
> arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.

Bible.

>
>
> 4) These are they who purchase this present life at the price of that
> which is to come: their torment shall not be lightened, neither
> shall they be helped.
>
> Moreover, to Moses gave we "the Book," and we raised up apostles
> after him; and to Jesus, son of Mary, gave we clear proofs of his
> mission, and strengthened him by the Holy Spirit. So oft then as
> an apostle cometh to you with that which your souls desire not,
> swell ye with pride, and treat some as impostors, and slay others?
>
> And they say, "Uncircumcised are our hearts." Nay! God hath cursed
> them in their infidelity: few are they who believe!

Koran.


>
>
> 5) The Spirits of the Living God move perpetually with the glory of the
> wonderful Chariot. The small voice of blessing accompanies the
> tumult as they depart, and on the path of their return they worship
> the Holy One, Ascending they rise marvelously; settling, they stay
> still. The sound of joyful praise is silenced and there is a small
> voice of blessing in all the camp of God.
>
> And a voice of praise resounds from the midsts of all their
> divisions in worship. And each one in his place, all their numbered
> ones sing hymns of praise.
>
> 6) But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master,
> and to thee, to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men
> which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink
> their own piss with you?

Bible

>
>
> 7) Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When a man
> shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the Lord by thy
> estimation.
>
> And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even
> unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of
> silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.
>
> And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.
>
> And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy
> estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female
> ten shekels.

Bible

>
>
> 8) As the work of the husbandman is the ploughshare; and the work of
> the steersman is the guidance of the ship;
>
> so also my work is the Psalm of the Lord: my craft and my occupation
> are in HIs praises:
>
> Because His love hath nourished my heart, and even to my lips His
> fruits He poured out.
>
> For my love is the Lord, and tehrefore I will sing unto him:
>
> For I am made strong in His praise, and I have faith in Him.
>
> --
> dpbsmith at world dot std dot com
> "Elinor Goulding Smith's Great Big Messy Book" is now back in print!
> Sample chapter at http://world.std.com/~dpbsmith/messy.html
> Buy it at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1403314063/

--
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Daniel P. B. Smith

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Nov 3, 2003, 7:04:35 PM11/3/03
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In article <Wkqpb.139$9e....@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>,
"David McKay" <mus...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

You are correct.

Daniel P. B. Smith

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Nov 3, 2003, 7:07:08 PM11/3/03
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In article <3FA6D9F9...@dircon.co.uk>,

Graham J Weeks <wee...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:

> Answers off the top of my head with no research.
>

> > 1) And he also prophesieth evil concerning thy life...
> > 2) Forasmuch as it hath pleased Almighty God...
>
> Book of Common Prayer

> > 3) Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote...


>
> Bible.
>
> > 4) These are they who purchase this present life at the price of that

> > which is to come...


>
> Koran.
> > 5) The Spirits of the Living God move perpetually with the glory of the
> >

> > 6) But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master,
>

> Bible

> > 7) Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When a man
> > shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the Lord by thy
>

> Bible

>> > 8) As the work of the husbandman is the ploughshare; and the work
of
> > the steersman is the guidance of the ship;

All five answers given are correct.

William C Waterhouse

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Nov 6, 2003, 6:32:41 PM11/6/03
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In article <see.message.text.for.ema...@news.fu-berlin.de>,
"Daniel P. B. Smith" <see.message.t...@bellatlantic.net> writes:
...

> Here are eight passages. Three are from the Bible; five are not.
> Can you identify which are from the Bible, and identify the sources of
> the non-Biblical passages? I'm expecting that AQ'ers will make fairly
> short work of this, but will post any needed answers in a few days.
>
> 1) And he also prophesieth evil concerning thy life, and saith that thy
> life shall be as a garment in a furnace of fire.
>
> And again, he saith that thou shalt be as a stalk, even as a dry
> stalk of the field, which is run over by the beasts and trodden
> under foot.
>
> And again, he saith thou shalt be as the blossoms of a thistle,
> which, when it is fully ripe, if the wind bloweth, it is driven
> forth upon the face of the land. And he pretendeth the Lord hath
> spoken it. And he saith all this shall come upon thee except thou
> repent, and this because of thine iniquities.

For some reason this did suggest the Book of Mormon to me, and that turned
out to be right (Mosiah, 12:1).



> 5) The Spirits of the Living God move perpetually with the glory of the
> wonderful Chariot. The small voice of blessing accompanies the
> tumult as they depart, and on the path of their return they worship
> the Holy One, Ascending they rise marvelously; settling, they stay
> still. The sound of joyful praise is silenced and there is a small
> voice of blessing in all the camp of God.
>
> And a voice of praise resounds from the midsts of all their
> divisions in worship. And each one in his place, all their numbered
> ones sing hymns of praise.

The material made it seeem a bit more likely to be ancient Jewish rather than Christian, but beyond that I had no idea. It is in fact a fragment found
in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There's no title; it's referred to simply by its
subject matter, "On the divine Throne-Chariot."


> 8) As the work of the husbandman is the ploughshare; and the work of
> the steersman is the guidance of the ship;
>
> so also my work is the Psalm of the Lord: my craft and my occupation
> are in HIs praises:
>
> Because His love hath nourished my heart, and even to my lips His
> fruits He poured out.
>
> For my love is the Lord, and tehrefore I will sing unto him:
>
> For I am made strong in His praise, and I have faith in Him.


On my own, I had no idea at all; things like this seem to be written
all the time. However, it is in fact ancient (Odes of Solomon, 16).


William C. Waterhouse
Penn State

The Sanity Inspector

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Nov 6, 2003, 10:17:40 PM11/6/03
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Like wow, Scooby, look what w...@math.psu.edu (William C Waterhouse)
just wrote!

>> 1) And he also prophesieth evil concerning thy life, and saith that thy
>> life shall be as a garment in a furnace of fire.
>>
>> And again, he saith that thou shalt be as a stalk, even as a dry
>> stalk of the field, which is run over by the beasts and trodden
>> under foot.
>>
>> And again, he saith thou shalt be as the blossoms of a thistle,
>> which, when it is fully ripe, if the wind bloweth, it is driven
>> forth upon the face of the land. And he pretendeth the Lord hath
>> spoken it. And he saith all this shall come upon thee except thou
>> repent, and this because of thine iniquities.
>
> For some reason this did suggest the Book of Mormon to me, and that turned
>out to be right (Mosiah, 12:1).

Just as scholarly lunkheads denounce Huckleberry Finn because
they don't grasp its eloquent denunciation of racism, Utahns often
cast Mark Twain into the fiery pit that awaits all "anti-Mormons."
Such critics miss Twain's sympathetic and fair picture of the people
and the place. In its day, his book Roughing It was severely
criticized for being entirely too kind to the Latter-day Saints. Twain
did make unkind comments about the Book of Mormon. Taking out the
phrase, "and it came to pass," he noted, would result in the Pamphlet
of Mormon. "It is chloroform in print," Twain wrote.
-- Will Bagley, "Twain Floated His Opinions on Utah",
http://historytogo.utah.gov/hmtwain.html

--
bruce
The dignified don't even enter in the game.
--The Jam

Daniel P. B. Smith

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Nov 7, 2003, 10:14:59 PM11/7/03
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In article <boelmp$1p54$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>,

w...@math.psu.edu (William C Waterhouse) wrote:

> In article
> <see.message.text.for.ema...@news.fu-berlin.de>,
> "Daniel P. B. Smith" <see.message.t...@bellatlantic.net> writes:
> ...
> > Here are eight passages. Three are from the Bible; five are not.
> > Can you identify which are from the Bible, and identify the sources of
> > the non-Biblical passages? I'm expecting that AQ'ers will make fairly
> > short work of this, but will post any needed answers in a few days.
> >
> > 1) And he also prophesieth evil concerning thy life, and saith that thy
> > life shall be as a garment in a furnace of fire.
> >
> > And again, he saith that thou shalt be as a stalk, even as a dry
> > stalk of the field, which is run over by the beasts and trodden
> > under foot.
> >
> > And again, he saith thou shalt be as the blossoms of a thistle,
> > which, when it is fully ripe, if the wind bloweth, it is driven
> > forth upon the face of the land. And he pretendeth the Lord hath
> > spoken it. And he saith all this shall come upon thee except thou
> > repent, and this because of thine iniquities.
>
> For some reason this did suggest the Book of Mormon to me, and that turned
> out to be right (Mosiah, 12:1).

Darn! And it's so _hard_ to find passages in the Book of Mormon that
don't have obvious giveaways (like references to Nephi or the Lamanites).

All correct. All of the passages have now been correctly identified by
AQ'ers. And not one single passage was incorrectly identified by anyone.

The Hobgoblin of the Net

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Nov 8, 2003, 9:49:19 AM11/8/03
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In <2214590...@news.fu-berlin.de>, <d.p.b.s.@bellatlantic.net> wrote:

> In <boelmp$1p54$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>, w...@math.psu.edu wrote:
>
> > For some reason this did suggest the Book of Mormon to me, and that turned
> > out to be right (Mosiah, 12:1).
>
> Darn! And it's so _hard_ to find passages in the Book of Mormon that
> don't have obvious giveaways (like references to Nephi or the Lamanites).

To a discerning reader Smith's style always gives it away! (A young Mormonist
once gave me a copy of the Book of Mormon as a parting gift. It soon cured
me of whatever interest I had in their religious fundamentals.)

-:-
We consider the bibles and religions divine .... I do not
say they are not divine,
I say they have all grown out of you and may grow out of
you still,
It is not they who give the life .... it is you who give the life;
Leaves are not more shed from the trees or trees from the earth
than they are shed of you.

--Walt Whitman

--
Col. G. L. Sicherman
col...@mail.monmouth.com

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